Hello all,
If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...
Cheers!
That sure sounds like treated wood,aka: PT Pine
http://www.accoya.com/about-accoya/
This looks like a fancy LDL:
http://www.accoya.com/faqs/#1
and of course, the $$$$$ might be a show stopper.
On 9/2/2011 1:03 PM, David Paste wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
> understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
> which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
> promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
> properties would it have? Just curious, like...
>
> Cheers!
On Sep 2, 10:49=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hello all,
>
> >If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
> >understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
> >which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
> >promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
> >properties would it have? Just curious, like...
>
> Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.
>
> Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.
Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.
What's AGWK?
I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.
Lew - whaddya thunk?!
On Sep 3, 7:37=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> David Paste wrote:
> > On Sep 2, 10:49 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Hello all,
>
> >>> If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
> >>> understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
> >>> which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
> >>> promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
> >>> properties would it have? Just curious, like...
>
> >> Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.
>
> >> Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.
>
> > Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.
>
> > What's AGWK?
>
> > I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.
>
> Wood + resin, not epoxy, acetal I think.
Which would be Delrin, which would be good luck
gluing it.
On Sep 4, 5:18=A0am, Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Acetylation with acetic anhydride stabilizes the wood.
> Same acetic anhydride used to convert wood cellulose
> into celluloid plastic, willow bark into aspirin, and
> morphine into heroin.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_anhydride
Thanks for that. So if it was used on hardwood rather than softwood,
would it become some-sort of superwood?!
On Sep 2, 1:03=A0pm, David Paste <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
> understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
> which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
> promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
> properties would it have? Just curious, like...
>
> Cheers!
Acetylation with acetic anhydride stabilizes the wood.
Same acetic anhydride used to convert wood cellulose
into celluloid plastic, willow bark into aspirin, and
morphine into heroin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_anhydride
On Sep 8, 7:14=A0pm, Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
> That sure sounds like treated wood,aka: PT Pine
>
> http://www.accoya.com/about-accoya/
>
> This looks like a fancy LDL:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is LDL?
On Sep 9, 3:29=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I believe he meant "LVL" ... laminated veneer lumber.
Ah ha! OK, cheers, that would make sense - the link provided was to a
vehicle bridge made out of the stuff, hence the LVL.
> We use beams made of this material because they can be made up onsite to
> make a continuous/long beam:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/Framing?authkey=3DGv..=
.
>
> You can see the components parts in the left foreground.
Thanks - interesting stuff!
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
>understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
>which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
>promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
>properties would it have? Just curious, like...
Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.
Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.
--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw
On 9/8/2011 1:38 PM, David Paste wrote:
> On Sep 8, 7:14 pm, Pat Barber<[email protected]> wrote:
>> That sure sounds like treated wood,aka: PT Pine
>>
>> http://www.accoya.com/about-accoya/
>>
>> This looks like a fancy LDL:
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but what is LDL?
I believe he meant "LVL" ... laminated veneer lumber.
We use beams made of this material because they can be made up onsite to
make a continuous/long beam:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/Framing?authkey=Gv1sRgCM2M672etqm4iAE#5411822082437505858
You can see the components parts in the left foreground.
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David Paste wrote:
> On Sep 2, 10:49 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>
>>> If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
>>> understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
>>> which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
>>> promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
>>> properties would it have? Just curious, like...
>>
>> Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.
>>
>> Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.
>
> Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.
>
> What's AGWK?
>
> I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.
Wood + resin, not epoxy, acetal I think.
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On 9/8/2011 10:29 PM, Swingman wrote:
> We use beams made of this material because they can be made up onsite to
> make a continuous/long beam:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/Framing?authkey=Gv1sRgCM2M672etqm4iAE#5411822082437505858
> You can see the components parts in the left foreground.
Very interesting build there. A ton of great pictures, until the end.
I wanted to see more of finishing the walls, and the finished product.
All the way through I was anticipating seeing what they did with the
walls... nope.
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:35:49 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sep 2, 10:49 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Hello all,
>>
>> >If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
>> >understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
>> >which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
>> >promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
>> >properties would it have? Just curious, like...
>>
>> Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.
>>
>> Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.
>
>Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.
>
>What's AGWK?
The other guys forgot the "Kumbaya", which must be stated after they
say "Anthropomorph^H^H^H^H^Hgenic Global Warming" to be aligned with
the True Believers' concept.
;)
>I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.
Most of the wood hardeners are just thin epoxy.
Bogosity factor = High, although they will do some surface hardening.
NOTHING turns softwood into hardwood.
Wood Viagra does not exist. <snicker>
--
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw