Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
make some kind of profit on this. I just want
it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
It's one of the many that says
Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
Thanks,
Sam
On Feb 6, 2:41=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Roba, how do you feel about Natalie McMasters? =A0
She's a one woman wrecking crew. Ashlie McIsaac's cousin, another Cape
Bretoner.
Angela and I love that kind of music when live, and preferably in
smaller venues.
Natalie has become a little plastic, IMHO, a bit commercialized.
But very talented. We do not own any of her music.
BTW, she's going to be a mommy (#4) any day now.
On Feb 3, 9:48=A0pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> sam wrote:
> > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> > It's one of the many that says
> > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Sam
>
> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
> cooking pot of hot water).
140 F to be precise.
> The advantage is that the instrument can then
> be easily taken apart when necessary. =A0Besides for reasons having to do
> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kiddin=
g!
>
> Bill- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hide glue can not only be disassembled easily (some
routine maintenance jobs call for it), it can be reglued
without having to scrape out the old glue. Even after
300 years, the old glue is reactivated by the new.
Hide glue also doesn't creep, like almost every other
modern glue.
On 2/4/2011 7:25 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Feb 4, 8:00 am, "HeyBub"<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I had no idea violins could be had so cheaply.
>>
>> Heck, they're cheap enough to use for DECORATION, even if one can't play it!
>
> Unless played expertly (there aren't many), violins should only be
> used as decoration.
> Bag pipes are in the same class of instruments with the notable
Ya left off banjos and cowbells.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 2/3/2011 7:41 PM, sam wrote:
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
I have what is most likely the same violin with the same label. Mine is
German student violin made around the late 1800, early 1900 period and
was appraised at $400 30 years ago.
These were everywhere in the country during the early 19th century.
Still, as Rob said, take it to get it appraised.
Does it have a bow? If so, that is one good reason to get it appraised,
as often those old bows are ten times what the violin is.
Hide glue is the only way to repair a violin if you want to keep both
the value of the instrument and the tone.
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Feb 6, 3:48=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 2:41=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Roba, how do you feel about Natalie McMasters? =A0
>
> She's a one woman wrecking crew. Ashlie McIsaac's cousin, another Cape
> Bretoner.
>
> Angela and I love that kind of music when live, and preferably in
> smaller venues.
> Natalie has become a little plastic, IMHO, a bit commercialized.
> But very talented. We do not own any of her music.
>
> BTW, she's going to be a mommy (#4) any day now.
She's definitely more toned down than when I saw her live. I was
hoping to find a video of her doing something like at Newport. Irish
step dancing is unique in that the whole idea is to not move your
upper body (or smile like you're enjoying yourself or think it's a big
deal), and that allows someone to play an instrument. I'd never seen
anyone move their legs and feet like that while playing an instrument
- or since.
It even brought comments from my girlfriend - "Why are you drooling?"
"Umm, I'm hungry...?"
R
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>> If you decide to take up the violin and can't fix that one within a
>> tight budget, grab one from an eBay vendor for as little as $25.
>> They're handsomely made, good sounding instruments, too. I doubled my
>> money selling it locally for half the price the locals get for similar
>> instruments. (My neck didn't like the fiddlin' position at all so I
>> had to give it up before I learned much.)
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/62hrgkg $24, $19 to ship.
>> Violin, bow, rosin, strings, case, tuner.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/63a3qvp $2 auction, $19 to ship.
>
> Good Lord!
>
> I had no idea violins could be had so cheaply.
>
> Heck, they're cheap enough to use for DECORATION, even if one can't play
> it!
I go to a LOT of yard sales. I've seen them for $5, and for that, they
would be a great wall piece. I've also seen $500 pieces of this and that
where the people only want $5. You just need to know what you're looking
at, whether it's a coin, a gun, a woodworking tool, a router set, a really
nice set of Forstners, whatever.
Yard sale story: International pickup bed with trailer tongue on side of
highway with "FREE" sign on it. It has a spare. Tires are flat. Hitch
doesn't have ball clasp, so I have to chain it on and tow it five miles to
my house. Go pump up the tires and drag it home. Plan is, I'm going to
use it for hauling around my ranch property. SWMBO rolls eyes, seeing it as
another one of my pointless endless worthless projects. I see hubcaps and
chrome wheel rings. Average condition Put a set of three hubcaps and three
rings on Ebay. Get $148. Advertise the trailer on Craigslist, get $35.
I guess there are people who would have told me the trailer was useless. I
don't always listen to people. My Daddy could swear to that.
Steve
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Learn how to care for a friend.
Download the book.
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 05:25:03 -0800 (PST), Robatoy wrote:
> On Feb 4, 8:00 am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I had no idea violins could be had so cheaply.
>>
>> Heck, they're cheap enough to use for DECORATION, even if one can't play it!
>
> Unless played expertly (there aren't many), violins should only be
> used as decoration.
> Bag pipes are in the same class of instruments with the notable
> distinction that there are no expert bag-pipe players. Bag-pipes can
> not be used as decoration unless mounted like a deer's head with a lot
> of bullet holes.
> Tambourines and bongos belong on that list, decorative at best and
> never to be played.
>
> Notable exceptions to the 'no violin' rule are fiddles in Irish pubs,
> where the fiddle players are back-up for singers like myself once we
> are over-served. Same thing goes for the Maritimes-style pubs.
> In limited doses, Alison Krauss can be entertaining... as is old
> footage of Henny Youngman.
I like bagpipe music(is that the right term?), but I don't want to make a
steady diet of it.
When I got hitched, the wedding was in a field alongside a large lake
pretty much in the middle of nowhere, we hired a piper to play the wedding.
Not too expensive and easier to move around than a grand piano.
When the piper arrived, he told me he needed a place to warm up and
and to get the pipes limbered up, I took him over a little rise and
into a scope of trees, thinking he would be somewhat unobtrusive
and less annoying while trying to get the damn thing started.
This is where the fun starts, in a bush nearby there was possibly one of
the
largest red wasp nest known to mankind, further more, red wasp take great
exception to bagpipe music (it is now only moments from time to walk the
plank) we are engulfed in a cloud of wasp, the piper in full dress is
having a fit, slinging pipes losing valuable articles of clothing and
bagpipe pieces and generally running in circles. Meanwhile in an effort
to keep this guy from fleeing the premises, I'm trying to fight the wasp
off of him and manage to get stung all over the hands and arms.
We managed to escape and gather all his equipment and only ran a few
minutes late with the wedding.
I was in great pain and somewhat dizzy from the excitement and toxins,
but the real swelling didn't start until later that evening. :)
basilisk
Bill wrote:
> sam wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> sam wrote:
>>>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>>>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>>>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>>>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>>>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>>>>
>>>> It's one of the many that says
>>>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>>>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>
>>> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
>>> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
>>> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
>>> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
>>> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
>>> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
>>> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No
>>> kidding!
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
>> hide glue for me.
>>
>> s
>
> Sam,
>
> If you want to read more along these lines, you might browse the "setup
> and repair" forums at: http://www.fiddlehangout.com/
> There are also several experts there that will probably be glad to help
> you with your questions. Be prepared to invest more time than the
> instrument's probably worth and read a bunch before you do anything. Do
> you realize that just to get the tuning pegs to work "nicely", you may
> spend close to $100 on tools? Maybe you should take it to a luthier as
> has already suggested by others? If you aren't committed to doing this
> sort of thing as a hobby, I think the argument to do so is compelling.
> Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
>
> http://www.stewmac.com/Shopping?&offset=0&keyword=Violin&actn=search&sort=score
> desc
>
> Bill
>
Try
http://www.mimf.com/
On 02/03/2011 06:54 PM, sam wrote:
> In article<8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
> @n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Feb 3, 8:41 pm, sam<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>>>
>>> It's one of the many that says
>>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sam
>>
>> Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
>
> There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
> to get this restored. I just want it to play.
>
> s
If this one is a total loss, and if you're ambitious, try this:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Deluxe-Violin-Kit/H3099
Bill wrote:
> Bob AZ wrote:
>> I think the argument to do so is
>>> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find
>>> interesting:
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Do you know of a similar site for harps?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob AZ
>
>
> I regret that I don't.
>
> F. Murtz's suggestion to look at http://www.mimf.com/
> is probably a good place to ask, though I haven't checked on the
> existence of a harp newsgroup.
>
> Bill
The site I mentioned has archives and tons of stuff about almost all
instruments, making,repairing. You could spend days sifting through it
but you have to register.
On Feb 5, 11:05=A0pm, "Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> And P.T. Barnum was right. =A0All day, they get a parade of morons who pa=
y
> more than retail.
>
I quote a friend:
"Robbie, God gave us gentiles, because SOMEbody has to pay retail.."
On Feb 4, 8:54=A0am, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 05:25:03 -0800 (PST), Robatoy wrote:
> > On Feb 4, 8:00 am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> I had no idea violins could be had so cheaply.
>
> >> Heck, they're cheap enough to use for DECORATION, even if one can't pl=
ay it!
>
> > Unless played expertly (there aren't many), violins should only be
> > used as decoration.
> > Bag pipes are in the same class of instruments with the notable
> > distinction that there are no expert bag-pipe players. Bag-pipes can
> > not be used as decoration unless mounted like a deer's head with a lot
> > of bullet holes.
> > Tambourines and bongos belong on that list, decorative at best and
> > never to be played.
>
> > Notable exceptions to the 'no violin' rule are fiddles in Irish pubs,
> > where the fiddle players are back-up for singers like myself once we
> > are over-served. Same thing goes for the Maritimes-style pubs.
> > In limited doses, Alison Krauss can be entertaining... as is old
> > footage of Henny Youngman.
>
> I like bagpipe music(is that the right term?), but I don't want to make a
> steady diet of it.
>
> When I got hitched, the wedding was in a field alongside a large lake
> pretty much in the middle of nowhere, we hired a piper to play the weddin=
g.
> Not too expensive and easier to move around than a grand piano.
>
> When the piper arrived, he told me he needed a place to warm up and
> and to get the pipes limbered up, I took him over a little rise and
> into a scope of trees, thinking he would be somewhat unobtrusive
> and less annoying while trying to get the damn thing started.
>
> This is where the fun starts, in a bush nearby there was possibly one of
> the
> largest red wasp nest known to mankind, further more, red wasp take great
> exception to bagpipe music (it is now only moments from time to walk the
> plank) we are engulfed in a cloud of wasp, the piper in full dress is
> having a fit, slinging pipes losing valuable articles of clothing and
> bagpipe pieces and generally running in circles. Meanwhile in an effort
> to keep this guy from fleeing the premises, I'm trying to fight the wasp
> off of him and manage to get stung all over the hands and arms.
> We managed to escape and gather all his equipment and only ran a few
> minutes late with the wedding.
>
> I was in great pain and somewhat dizzy from the excitement and toxins,
> but the real swelling didn't start until later that evening. :)
That is a great story. God, I've been to so many weddings at so many
bland and boring places. Nobody at your wedding will be forgetting it
anytime soon.
I agree with you on the bagpipes. I like the music just fine - in
moderation and with appreciable breathing space between listenings.
Roba, how do you feel about Natalie McMasters? I caught her at the
Newport Folk Festival some years back and she totally kicked ass. And
looked damn fine doing it.
Here's her accompanied by bagpipes, just for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT9r1VEoSZ4I
and here she's step dancing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8HuwuZG_HFo
At the Newport show she danced while playing the fiddle. If she's not
a good reason to clone people, I don't know what is.
R
On Feb 3, 8:41=A0pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
On Feb 4, 8:00=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I had no idea violins could be had so cheaply.
>
> Heck, they're cheap enough to use for DECORATION, even if one can't play =
it!
Unless played expertly (there aren't many), violins should only be
used as decoration.
Bag pipes are in the same class of instruments with the notable
distinction that there are no expert bag-pipe players. Bag-pipes can
not be used as decoration unless mounted like a deer's head with a lot
of bullet holes.
Tambourines and bongos belong on that list, decorative at best and
never to be played.
Notable exceptions to the 'no violin' rule are fiddles in Irish pubs,
where the fiddle players are back-up for singers like myself once we
are over-served. Same thing goes for the Maritimes-style pubs.
In limited doses, Alison Krauss can be entertaining... as is old
footage of Henny Youngman.
Steve B wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Yep. My son found a new CORVETTE SUN ROOF (or hard top or something
>> to do with the roof on a Corvette) on the curb that was put out for
>> heavy trash pickup. Sold the sumbitch on Ebay for over $400 !
>
> My first two sales on ebay were an Alpine front control panel that the
> volume control didn't work very well on. I bought a good one on ebay
> for $50, and used the old one for a paper weight for a couple of
> months. Then I got a 18w. Dewalt charger that a guy left in one of
> my rentals. No battery, no nothing, just a charger. I described the
> Alpine front panel in detail, with its malfunctioning volume control.
> Apparently someone who worked on them bought it for $40. The battery
> charger went for $25. My best deal was a travel trailer I got for
> $200 and sold for $4300. Lots of other stories. Think I'm going to
> start doing some more soon on estate sales, and "home run" items.
>
I can top that - sort of. I sometimes drive around my neighborhood the night
before heavy trash pickup. On one of these foraging expeditions, I spied,
and gathered to my bosom, a military jerry can that looked to be in good
shape. It was.
When I got it home, there, stenciled on the bottom, was "3A Sep 44". If I
decode this properly, the can was put into service with George Patton's 3rd
Army Corps three months before the Battle of the Bulge!
This little can helped rescue the 101st Airborne Division (even though they
never asked to be rescued).
?
"Bob AZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:abcfc036-54df-445e-b9ae-9736a306935a@o32g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> I think the argument to do so is
>> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find
>> interesting:
>
> Bill
>
> Do you know of a similar site for harps?
>
> Thanks
> Bob AZ
The Irish can't use that site?
"sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
Sam,
I've got a guy here that does this type of repair work. If you decide to
farm it out, let me know and I'll put you in touch with him.
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In article <8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
@n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> On Feb 3, 8:41 pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
> >
> > It's one of the many that says
> > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sam
>
> Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
to get this restored. I just want it to play.
s
In article <fe7855bc-ffe7-4808-8ab3-
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> On Feb 3, 8:54 pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
> > @n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 3, 8:41 pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> > > > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> > > > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> > > > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> > > > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
> >
> > > > It's one of the many that says
> > > > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> > > > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
> >
> > > > Thanks,
> >
> > > > Sam
> >
> > > Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
> >
> > There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
> > to get this restored. I just want it to play.
> >
> > s
>
> Man, do I have to spell it out for you?
>
> Get quote.
> Ask why so much.
> He'll explain what he has to do.
> Knowledge.
Got it. Good idea.
Thanks,
s
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> sam wrote:
> > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
> >
> > It's one of the many that says
> > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sam
> >
>
> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
>
> Bill
Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
hide glue for me.
s
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> sam wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> sam wrote:
> >>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> >>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> >>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> >>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> >>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
> >>>
> >>> It's one of the many that says
> >>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> >>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >>>
> >>
> >> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
> >> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
> >> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
> >> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
> >> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
> >> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
> >> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
> >>
> >> Bill
> >
> > Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
> > hide glue for me.
> >
> > s
>
> Sam,
>
> If you want to read more along these lines, you might browse the "setup
> and repair" forums at: http://www.fiddlehangout.com/
> There are also several experts there that will probably be glad to help
> you with your questions. Be prepared to invest more time than the
> instrument's probably worth and read a bunch before you do anything.
> Do you realize that just to get the tuning pegs to work "nicely", you
> may spend close to $100 on tools? Maybe you should take it to a luthier
> as has already suggested by others? If you aren't committed to doing
> this sort of thing as a hobby, I think the argument to do so is
> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
>
> http://www.stewmac.com/Shopping?&offset=0&keyword=Violin&actn=search&sort=score
> desc
>
> Bill
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the great links. I'm going to wait until
summer when I'm in full woodworking mode and I'll
study up and try to do it right.
Thanks again,
Sam
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:12:23 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> sam wrote:
> >> > In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> >> >>
> >> >> sam wrote:
> >> >>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> >> >>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> >> >>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> >> >>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> >> >>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's one of the many that says
> >> >>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> >> >>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sam
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
> >> >> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
> >> >> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
> >> >> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
> >> >> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
> >> >> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
> >> >> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill
> >> >
> >> > Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
> >> > hide glue for me.
> >> >
> >> > s
> >>
> >> Sam,
> >>
> >> If you want to read more along these lines, you might browse the "setup
> >> and repair" forums at: http://www.fiddlehangout.com/
> >> There are also several experts there that will probably be glad to help
> >> you with your questions. Be prepared to invest more time than the
> >> instrument's probably worth and read a bunch before you do anything.
> >> Do you realize that just to get the tuning pegs to work "nicely", you
> >> may spend close to $100 on tools? Maybe you should take it to a luthier
> >> as has already suggested by others? If you aren't committed to doing
> >> this sort of thing as a hobby, I think the argument to do so is
> >> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
> >>
> >> http://www.stewmac.com/Shopping?&offset=0&keyword=Violin&actn=search&sort=score
> >> desc
> >>
> >> Bill
> >
> >Hi Bill,
> >
> >Thanks for the great links. I'm going to wait until
> >summer when I'm in full woodworking mode and I'll
> >study up and try to do it right.
>
> If you decide to take up the violin and can't fix that one within a
> tight budget, grab one from an eBay vendor for as little as $25.
> They're handsomely made, good sounding instruments, too. I doubled my
> money selling it locally for half the price the locals get for similar
> instruments. (My neck didn't like the fiddlin' position at all so I
> had to give it up before I learned much.)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/62hrgkg $24, $19 to ship.
> Violin, bow, rosin, strings, case, tuner.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/63a3qvp $2 auction, $19 to ship.
Thanks, I already have a violin that I play (not well).
For 30 bucks, I couldn't turn down the antique, even
if it needs some work.
s
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 02/03/2011 06:54 PM, sam wrote:
> > In article<8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
> > @n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> On Feb 3, 8:41 pm, sam<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> >>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> >>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> >>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> >>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
> >>>
> >>> It's one of the many that says
> >>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> >>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >>
> >> Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
> >
> > There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
> > to get this restored. I just want it to play.
> >
> > s
>
> If this one is a total loss, and if you're ambitious, try this:
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Deluxe-Violin-Kit/H3099
Thanks, Doug. I'm not much for kits. I watched a video
of a guy who made one by re-sawing some pieces and
matching the grain on the back. It looked just great.
That's the crazy kind of thing I'd like to try one
of these days.
I'm really curious what this old violin will sound like
when I get it glued up. I hope it has an awesome tone.
s
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Pawn Stars is a good show, and I like it. Much more than that schmuck on
> Hard Core Pawn. I bet he got his ass kicked a lot in school. But how many
> times do they say, "In order to make any money, I have to get this for
> cheap."? Cheap for them is 25% of retail. If I was in that business, I'd
> do the same time. If you listen clearly, they double or triple their money
> on most things. And that's just the stuff they tell you about. Lots and
> lots goes in and out for cash. Lots of pawn shops give you $20 on an item
> and sell it for $300.
Cheap around here is 10% or less.
eg. If we sold one of the first editions we own to an antiquarian book
dealer we'd get a few hundred bucks. The right auction would net us
significantly more in a random sorta way. The book's street value is
however, at least 10 times the dollar value at the dealers.
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> If you decide to take up the violin and can't fix that one within a
> tight budget, grab one from an eBay vendor for as little as $25.
> They're handsomely made, good sounding instruments, too. I doubled my
> money selling it locally for half the price the locals get for similar
> instruments. (My neck didn't like the fiddlin' position at all so I
> had to give it up before I learned much.)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/62hrgkg $24, $19 to ship.
> Violin, bow, rosin, strings, case, tuner.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/63a3qvp $2 auction, $19 to ship.
Good Lord!
I had no idea violins could be had so cheaply.
Heck, they're cheap enough to use for DECORATION, even if one can't play it!
Steve B wrote:
>
> Pawn Stars is a good show, and I like it. Much more than that
> schmuck on Hard Core Pawn. I bet he got his ass kicked a lot in
> school. But how many times do they say, "In order to make any money,
> I have to get this for cheap."? Cheap for them is 25% of retail. If
> I was in that business, I'd do the same time. If you listen clearly,
> they double or triple their money on most things. And that's just
> the stuff they tell you about. Lots and lots goes in and out for
> cash. Lots of pawn shops give you $20 on an item and sell it for
> $300.
Psst! Most retail shops buy most of their merchandise from wholesalers at
half what the selling price will be. Don't spread this around as many will
get really upset over being ripped-off !
Steve B wrote:
>
> I go to a LOT of yard sales. I've seen them for $5, and for that,
> they would be a great wall piece. I've also seen $500 pieces of this
> and that where the people only want $5. You just need to know what
> you're looking at, whether it's a coin, a gun, a woodworking tool, a
> router set, a really nice set of Forstners, whatever.
>
> Yard sale story: International pickup bed with trailer tongue on
> side of highway with "FREE" sign on it. It has a spare. Tires are
> flat. Hitch doesn't have ball clasp, so I have to chain it on and
> tow it five miles to my house. Go pump up the tires and drag it
> home. Plan is, I'm going to use it for hauling around my ranch
> property. SWMBO rolls eyes, seeing it as another one of my pointless
> endless worthless projects. I see hubcaps and chrome wheel rings. Average
> condition Put a set of three hubcaps and three rings on
> Ebay. Get $148. Advertise the trailer on Craigslist, get $35.
> I guess there are people who would have told me the trailer was
> useless. I don't always listen to people. My Daddy could swear to
> that.
Yep. My son found a new CORVETTE SUN ROOF (or hard top or something to do
with the roof on a Corvette) on the curb that was put out for heavy trash
pickup. Sold the sumbitch on Ebay for over $400 !
On Feb 3, 7:57=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:54=A0pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
> > @n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> > > On Feb 3, 8:41=A0pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> > > > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> > > > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> > > > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> > > > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> > > > It's one of the many that says
> > > > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> > > > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > Sam
>
> > > Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
>
> > There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
> > to get this restored. I just want it to play.
>
> > s
>
> Man, do I have to spell it out for you?
>
> Get quote.
> Ask why so much.
> He'll explain what he has to do.
> Knowledge.
Agree - - A good luthier will be able to tell you if there is value in
the instrument before you start dinkin' with it. An old, European
violin was brought into our museum about a year ago. It was owned by
one of the Nuns who ran the frontier boarding school and music program
in our 1880's home town. We were delighted to have it as an
artifact. Had a luthier look at it and, in rough condition, it is
worth more than $4,000.
Be nice to know before you start applying the epoxy and duct
tape. :o)
RonB
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:12:23 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> sam wrote:
>> > In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> sam wrote:
>> >>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>> >>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>> >>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>> >>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>> >>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>> >>>
>> >>> It's one of the many that says
>> >>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>> >>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Sam
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
>> >> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
>> >> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
>> >> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
>> >> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
>> >> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
>> >> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >
>> > Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
>> > hide glue for me.
>> >
>> > s
>>
>> Sam,
>>
>> If you want to read more along these lines, you might browse the "setup
>> and repair" forums at: http://www.fiddlehangout.com/
>> There are also several experts there that will probably be glad to help
>> you with your questions. Be prepared to invest more time than the
>> instrument's probably worth and read a bunch before you do anything.
>> Do you realize that just to get the tuning pegs to work "nicely", you
>> may spend close to $100 on tools? Maybe you should take it to a luthier
>> as has already suggested by others? If you aren't committed to doing
>> this sort of thing as a hobby, I think the argument to do so is
>> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://www.stewmac.com/Shopping?&offset=0&keyword=Violin&actn=search&sort=score
>> desc
>>
>> Bill
>
>Hi Bill,
>
>Thanks for the great links. I'm going to wait until
>summer when I'm in full woodworking mode and I'll
>study up and try to do it right.
If you decide to take up the violin and can't fix that one within a
tight budget, grab one from an eBay vendor for as little as $25.
They're handsomely made, good sounding instruments, too. I doubled my
money selling it locally for half the price the locals get for similar
instruments. (My neck didn't like the fiddlin' position at all so I
had to give it up before I learned much.)
http://tinyurl.com/62hrgkg $24, $19 to ship.
Violin, bow, rosin, strings, case, tuner.
http://tinyurl.com/63a3qvp $2 auction, $19 to ship.
--
Woe be to him that reads but one book.
-- George Herbert
>>> Get quote.
>>> Ask why so much.
>>> He'll explain what he has to do.
>>> Knowledge.
>>Besides even though is a knock off, it still could be valuable, and
>>worth significantly more that the cost of repair. Don't you watch
>>Antiques Roadshow? ;-)
>Someone just brought one into Pawn Stars, and they wouldn't even buy it,
>once it was determined to be a knock off (even if it was 100 years old).
>That's worthless.
>scott
The pawn boys wouldn't buy it, but their appraiser said that in
repaired condition it was worth between $1500-$2500. Not as much as a
strat, but not bad for free find in an old trunk.
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote
> Yep. My son found a new CORVETTE SUN ROOF (or hard top or something to do
> with the roof on a Corvette) on the curb that was put out for heavy trash
> pickup. Sold the sumbitch on Ebay for over $400 !
My first two sales on ebay were an Alpine front control panel that the
volume control didn't work very well on. I bought a good one on ebay for
$50, and used the old one for a paper weight for a couple of months. Then I
got a 18w. Dewalt charger that a guy left in one of my rentals. No battery,
no nothing, just a charger. I described the Alpine front panel in detail,
with its malfunctioning volume control. Apparently someone who worked on
them bought it for $40. The battery charger went for $25. My best deal was
a travel trailer I got for $200 and sold for $4300. Lots of other stories.
Think I'm going to start doing some more soon on estate sales, and "home
run" items.
Steve
knuttle <[email protected]> writes:
>On 2/3/2011 8:57 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> Get quote.
>> Ask why so much.
>> He'll explain what he has to do.
>> Knowledge.
>
>Besides even though is a knock off, it still could be valuable, and
>worth significantly more that the cost of repair. Don't you watch
>Antiques Roadshow? ;-)
Someone just brought one into Pawn Stars, and they wouldn't even buy it,
once it was determined to be a knock off (even if it was 100 years old).
That's worthless.
scott
"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> knuttle <[email protected]> writes:
>>On 2/3/2011 8:57 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Get quote.
>>> Ask why so much.
>>> He'll explain what he has to do.
>>> Knowledge.
>>
>>Besides even though is a knock off, it still could be valuable, and
>>worth significantly more that the cost of repair. Don't you watch
>>Antiques Roadshow? ;-)
>
> Someone just brought one into Pawn Stars, and they wouldn't even buy it,
> once it was determined to be a knock off (even if it was 100 years old).
>
> That's worthless.
>
> scott
No, it just wasn't worth it for them to buy it for $100, put $300 in it, and
sell it for $500.
It is impossible to say if the one on Pawn Stars is the same variation as
the one this fellow has. Some of the copies are quite good, and worth in
the thousands. It would be absolutely stupid to have one of these in your
hands and not get a professional opinion on it, even if it cost you $50.
And I'm not talking about an opinion from a pawn broker.
Pawn Stars is a good show, and I like it. Much more than that schmuck on
Hard Core Pawn. I bet he got his ass kicked a lot in school. But how many
times do they say, "In order to make any money, I have to get this for
cheap."? Cheap for them is 25% of retail. If I was in that business, I'd
do the same time. If you listen clearly, they double or triple their money
on most things. And that's just the stuff they tell you about. Lots and
lots goes in and out for cash. Lots of pawn shops give you $20 on an item
and sell it for $300.
And P.T. Barnum was right. All day, they get a parade of morons who pay
more than retail.
Steve
Heart surgery pending?
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Learn how to care for a friend.
Download the book.
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
On Feb 3, 8:54=A0pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
> @n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 8:41=A0pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> > > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> > > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> > > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> > > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> > > It's one of the many that says
> > > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> > > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Sam
>
> > Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
>
> There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
> to get this restored. I just want it to play.
>
> s
Man, do I have to spell it out for you?
Get quote.
Ask why so much.
He'll explain what he has to do.
Knowledge.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:54:47 -0600, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
>@n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Feb 3, 8:41 pm, sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>> > cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>> > make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>> > it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>> > use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>> >
>> > It's one of the many that says
>> > Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>> > Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Sam
>>
>> Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
>
>There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
>to get this restored. I just want it to play.
It likely wouldn't resonate with that goop on it. Howzbout brown duct
tape?
--
Woe be to him that reads but one book.
-- George Herbert
On 2/3/2011 8:57 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:54 pm, sam<[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article<8dfd0529-a457-4acd-a17d-0ec020738876
>> @n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 8:41 pm, sam<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>>>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>>>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>>>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>>>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>>
>>>> It's one of the many that says
>>>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>>>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>
>>>> Sam
>>
>>> Take it to a luthier and get a quote.
>>
>> There is absolutely no way I'm spending money
>> to get this restored. I just want it to play.
>>
>> s
>
> Man, do I have to spell it out for you?
>
> Get quote.
> Ask why so much.
> He'll explain what he has to do.
> Knowledge.
Besides even though is a knock off, it still could be valuable, and
worth significantly more that the cost of repair. Don't you watch
Antiques Roadshow? ;-)
sam wrote:
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
Bill
sam wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> sam wrote:
>>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>>>
>>> It's one of the many that says
>>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>
>> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
>> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
>> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
>> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
>> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
>> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
>> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
>>
>> Bill
>
> Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
> hide glue for me.
>
> s
Sam,
If you want to read more along these lines, you might browse the "setup
and repair" forums at: http://www.fiddlehangout.com/
There are also several experts there that will probably be glad to help
you with your questions. Be prepared to invest more time than the
instrument's probably worth and read a bunch before you do anything.
Do you realize that just to get the tuning pegs to work "nicely", you
may spend close to $100 on tools? Maybe you should take it to a luthier
as has already suggested by others? If you aren't committed to doing
this sort of thing as a hobby, I think the argument to do so is
compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
http://www.stewmac.com/Shopping?&offset=0&keyword=Violin&actn=search&sort=score
desc
Bill
Bob AZ wrote:
> I think the argument to do so is
>> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
>
> Bill
>
> Do you know of a similar site for harps?
>
> Thanks
> Bob AZ
I regret that I don't.
F. Murtz's suggestion to look at http://www.mimf.com/
is probably a good place to ask, though I haven't checked on the
existence of a harp newsgroup.
Bill
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:12:23 -0600, sam<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> sam wrote:
>>>> In article<[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>>>
>>>>> sam wrote:
>>>>>> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
>>>>>> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
>>>>>> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
>>>>>> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
>>>>>> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's one of the many that says
>>>>>> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
>>>>>> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of respect for the instrument, and to help provide it with a long
>>>>> lifetime, you are supposed to use "hide glue" (it is melted it in a
>>>>> cooking pot of hot water). The advantage is that the instrument can then
>>>>> be easily taken apart when necessary. Besides for reasons having to do
>>>>> with sound, using epoxy will seal the instruments fate permanently.
>>>>> BTW, removing any of the instruments finish is is an offense considered
>>>>> punishable by a fate worse than being boiled like hide glue. ;) No kidding!
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Bill. Looks like it will be cooked
>>>> hide glue for me.
>>>>
>>>> s
>>>
>>> Sam,
>>>
>>> If you want to read more along these lines, you might browse the "setup
>>> and repair" forums at: http://www.fiddlehangout.com/
>>> There are also several experts there that will probably be glad to help
>>> you with your questions. Be prepared to invest more time than the
>>> instrument's probably worth and read a bunch before you do anything.
>>> Do you realize that just to get the tuning pegs to work "nicely", you
>>> may spend close to $100 on tools? Maybe you should take it to a luthier
>>> as has already suggested by others? If you aren't committed to doing
>>> this sort of thing as a hobby, I think the argument to do so is
>>> compelling. Here's a link to some parts and tools you may find interesting:
>>>
>>> http://www.stewmac.com/Shopping?&offset=0&keyword=Violin&actn=search&sort=score
>>> desc
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Thanks for the great links. I'm going to wait until
>> summer when I'm in full woodworking mode and I'll
>> study up and try to do it right.
>
> If you decide to take up the violin and can't fix that one within a
> tight budget, grab one from an eBay vendor for as little as $25.
> They're handsomely made, good sounding instruments, too. I doubled my
> money selling it locally for half the price the locals get for similar
> instruments. (My neck didn't like the fiddlin' position at all so I
> had to give it up before I learned much.)
You should try this shoulder rest before you say "I quit" (unless you
have a short neck):
http://www.sharmusic.com/Shop-Shar/Accessories/Essentials/Shoulder-Rests/Bonmusica-Violin-Shoulder-Rest-fits-4-4-size.axd
>
> http://tinyurl.com/62hrgkg $24, $19 to ship.
> Violin, bow, rosin, strings, case, tuner.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/63a3qvp $2 auction, $19 to ship.
>
> --
> Woe be to him that reads but one book.
> -- George Herbert
On 2/3/2011 11:41 PM, sam wrote:
> I'm really curious what this old violin will sound like
> when I get it glued up. I hope it has an awesome tone.
>
> s
If you just glue it up with whatever, it won't. If it has
any value and you really want it to sound like anything
you need to get somebody that knows what they are doing
to fix it. A good violin is a precision instrument.
Bill
"Steve B" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
I'd take it to a reputable shop before I even dusted it off. They can be
worth money, unless screwed up by an amateur restorer. They may not be the
million dollar ones, but they still can command good dough if not screwed up
with some drywall screws and Gorilla Glue. Some of the copies are worth
thousands. As mentioned before, a good shop will give you an itemized list
of the work they will do, and what they will charge. They will also, (If
you are a good talker) tell you how much it will be worth AFTER restoration.
Anyone with a room temperature IQ can do the math and see which is the
bigger number. And then, if it is just a break even deal, you might want to
play around with it, and try to DIY. But I'd know for sure before I'd start
hacking on it.
Steve
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I mentioned this to my wife's cousin who plays first violin for the NJ
Symphony and owns a Strad. According to him there are Strads and Cremonies
that aren't worth crap as players. All there value is in the builders mark.
On the other hand there are Yamahas that are tremendous players but only
cost a few hundred bucks.
The only thing to do is to get the violin appraised and a repair estimate.
There is a good chance that if there is one crack, there is something else
that needs regluing.
On 2/4/2011 3:27 PM, Swingman wrote:
> Worth, or value, to a musician, is ALL about what it sounds like, first
> and foremost, followed by how easy it is to play ... everything else is
> secondary, including what it might be worth to a pawn shop.
I should have added ... unless he's between girlfriends with no couch to
sleep on.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 2/4/2011 3:05 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> knuttle<[email protected]> writes:
>> On 2/3/2011 8:57 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Get quote.
>>> Ask why so much.
>>> He'll explain what he has to do.
>>> Knowledge.
>>
>> Besides even though is a knock off, it still could be valuable, and
>> worth significantly more that the cost of repair. Don't you watch
>> Antiques Roadshow? ;-)
>
> Someone just brought one into Pawn Stars, and they wouldn't even buy it,
> once it was determined to be a knock off (even if it was 100 years old).
>
> That's worthless.
I've known some of these old imported European "knock offs" to sound and
play better than a $30,000 Cremona instrument in your local symphony
orechestra.
Worth, or value, to a musician, is ALL about what it sounds like, first
and foremost, followed by how easy it is to play ... everything else is
secondary, including what it might be worth to a pawn shop.
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
If you are determined to do it yourself, use hot hide glue, but please have
it appraised first. The others are correct, except for the brown duct tape,
should be yellow to comply with OSHA:-)
Joe M
"sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
"sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Found an old Stradivarius knockoff with some
> cracks that need gluing. I'm not looking to
> make some kind of profit on this. I just want
> it to play. Is it some kind of sacrilege to
> use old fashioned epoxy resin to fix it?
>
> It's one of the many that says
> Antonius Stradivarius Cremonensis
> Faciebat Anno 17(40 written in)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
I'd take it to a reputable shop before I even dusted it off. They can be
worth money, unless screwed up by an amateur restorer. They may not be the
million dollar ones, but they still can command good dough if not screwed up
with some drywall screws and Gorilla Glue. Some of the copies are worth
thousands. As mentioned before, a good shop will give you an itemized list
of the work they will do, and what they will charge. They will also, (If
you are a good talker) tell you how much it will be worth AFTER restoration.
Anyone with a room temperature IQ can do the math and see which is the
bigger number. And then, if it is just a break even deal, you might want to
play around with it, and try to DIY. But I'd know for sure before I'd start
hacking on it.
Steve
Heart surgery pending?
Read up and prepare.
Learn how to care for a friend.
Download the book.
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com