JJ

[email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)

03/09/2003 9:05 PM

HF BENCH SAW ACCIDENT

Well, since so many people seem prone to spread it around when they
have an accident on a power tool, thought I would too.

This was my first ever accident involving a bench/table saw - ever
- since I first fired up a table saw, in my high school sophmore shop
class, in the fall of 1955.

This is a little HF bench saw I got new for about $79 a few years
back, 10". I don't use it a lot, but I was out today and got a deal on
a carbide tip blade. So, decided to change blades, as the plywood blade
on it was getting dull.

The long crescent wrench was in the house, so used a short one.
When it loosened, my hand slipped, and nicked the ring finger on my
right hand. If I'd used a longer crescent wrench, this could probably
have been avoided.

And I bet you guys thought you were going to hear something
horrible about a HF saw causing an accident. LOL Actually, it's a
pretty decent saw, I don't use it a lot, but it does just what I need.
I tuned it after the new blade was on, and the tilt was dead on right
from the factory. It was a bit off from the mitre slot, but a couple of
minutes put it very close to dead on. I didn't use a dial calipher, but
a new steel rule.

Our shop teacher showed us what kickback was, and told us to stay
out of line, before we were allowed to touch the saw. Told us to use
push sticks too. I've never had kickback, and I feel it is because I
listened to my shop teacher, all those years ago.

In fact, the worst shop accident I ever had was in shop class the
year before. I was sanding something on a disc/belt combination sander,
huge industrial size, and let a finger touch the disc. Took about an
eighth of an inch off. That's when I learned, keep the body parts away
from the whirly parts. Now days, the school and teacher would probably
get sued. Back then, they bandaged it up, told me next time be careful.
No big deal with the folks either, basically told me the same.

Ah, how times have changed. Back then they figured if you got hurt
doing something stupid, it was your own fault, because you were stupid.
Now if you get hurt from doing something stupid, they figure it's the
school/teacher at fault for letting you be stupid.

JOAT
Failure is not an option.
But it is definitely a possibility.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/


This topic has 10 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

05/09/2003 12:19 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT <[email protected]> wrote:

> The long crescent wrench was in the house, so used a short one.
> When it loosened, my hand slipped, and nicked the ring finger on my
> right hand. If I'd used a longer crescent wrench, this could probably
> have been avoided.

You removed the factory wrench guard, didn't you?

djb

--
"It's not bragging if you can back it up." -- Muhammad Ali

GS

Greg Sellers

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

04/09/2003 10:53 AM



I too always remember what my shop teacher told us back in 1983. "If
you
cut yourself, please don't bleed on my floor" That sort of woke us up
to
the fact that these power tools might hurt you and there was no
horseplay
or any accidents. Of course, the fact that he was missing a couple
fingers
also was enlightening to a bunch of kids.

However, I lightly touched my 6x48" belt sander the other day and now
have
a bandaid on a fingertip. I always wear gloves when using that thing,
but
for some reason I wasn't that day.

-Greg


Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT wrote:
>
> Well, since so many people seem prone to spread it around when they
> have an accident on a power tool, thought I would too.
>
> This was my first ever accident involving a bench/table saw - ever
> - since I first fired up a table saw, in my high school sophmore shop
> class, in the fall of 1955.
>
> This is a little HF bench saw I got new for about $79 a few years
> back, 10". I don't use it a lot, but I was out today and got a deal on
> a carbide tip blade. So, decided to change blades, as the plywood blade
> on it was getting dull.
>
> The long crescent wrench was in the house, so used a short one.
> When it loosened, my hand slipped, and nicked the ring finger on my
> right hand. If I'd used a longer crescent wrench, this could probably
> have been avoided.
>
> And I bet you guys thought you were going to hear something
> horrible about a HF saw causing an accident. LOL Actually, it's a
> pretty decent saw, I don't use it a lot, but it does just what I need.
> I tuned it after the new blade was on, and the tilt was dead on right
> from the factory. It was a bit off from the mitre slot, but a couple of
> minutes put it very close to dead on. I didn't use a dial calipher, but
> a new steel rule.
>
> Our shop teacher showed us what kickback was, and told us to stay
> out of line, before we were allowed to touch the saw. Told us to use
> push sticks too. I've never had kickback, and I feel it is because I
> listened to my shop teacher, all those years ago.
>
> In fact, the worst shop accident I ever had was in shop class the
> year before. I was sanding something on a disc/belt combination sander,
> huge industrial size, and let a finger touch the disc. Took about an
> eighth of an inch off. That's when I learned, keep the body parts away
> from the whirly parts. Now days, the school and teacher would probably
> get sued. Back then, they bandaged it up, told me next time be careful.
> No big deal with the folks either, basically told me the same.
>
> Ah, how times have changed. Back then they figured if you got hurt
> doing something stupid, it was your own fault, because you were stupid.
> Now if you get hurt from doing something stupid, they figure it's the
> school/teacher at fault for letting you be stupid.
>
> JOAT
> Failure is not an option.
> But it is definitely a possibility.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

Sa

"Stephanie and Tim"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

04/09/2003 10:07 PM

Oooooh - I've done that "sand off a bit on the disc sander" myself. Gets
your attention much more than a normal cut.


"David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In terms of wood, 1/8th of an inch isn't much. Where flesh is
> concerned, the measurements take on a whole new significance...



JJ

[email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)

in reply to "Stephanie and Tim" on 04/09/2003 10:07 PM

04/09/2003 10:32 PM

Thu, Sep 4, 2003, 10:07pm [email protected]
(Stephanie=A0and=A0Tim) one of them said:
Oooooh - I've done that "sand off a bit on the disc sander" myself. Gets
your attention much more than a normal cut.

I don't know about more than a normal cut; but, it got my attention
enough that, close to 50 years later, I'm still thinking about not
repeating.

JOAT
Failure is not an option.
But it is definitely a possibility.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

bb

"bobbg"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

04/09/2003 12:20 AM

I think a lot of schools have opted to drop shop clases,a dying art form! I
am sure there are guys that can take the worst pile of junk and make
somthing dead on with it just by knowing the tool and how to ues it.
I think schools are more about buying computer stuff to teach kids insted of
shop tools. They need to learn as much of everything as they can and decide
what there going to do for a living from that.
"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, since so many people seem prone to spread it around when they
> have an accident on a power tool, thought I would too.
>
> This was my first ever accident involving a bench/table saw - ever
> - since I first fired up a table saw, in my high school sophmore shop
> class, in the fall of 1955.
>
> This is a little HF bench saw I got new for about $79 a few years
> back, 10". I don't use it a lot, but I was out today and got a deal on
> a carbide tip blade. So, decided to change blades, as the plywood blade
> on it was getting dull.
>
> The long crescent wrench was in the house, so used a short one.
> When it loosened, my hand slipped, and nicked the ring finger on my
> right hand. If I'd used a longer crescent wrench, this could probably
> have been avoided.
>
> And I bet you guys thought you were going to hear something
> horrible about a HF saw causing an accident. LOL Actually, it's a
> pretty decent saw, I don't use it a lot, but it does just what I need.
> I tuned it after the new blade was on, and the tilt was dead on right
> from the factory. It was a bit off from the mitre slot, but a couple of
> minutes put it very close to dead on. I didn't use a dial calipher, but
> a new steel rule.
>
> Our shop teacher showed us what kickback was, and told us to stay
> out of line, before we were allowed to touch the saw. Told us to use
> push sticks too. I've never had kickback, and I feel it is because I
> listened to my shop teacher, all those years ago.
>
> In fact, the worst shop accident I ever had was in shop class the
> year before. I was sanding something on a disc/belt combination sander,
> huge industrial size, and let a finger touch the disc. Took about an
> eighth of an inch off. That's when I learned, keep the body parts away
> from the whirly parts. Now days, the school and teacher would probably
> get sued. Back then, they bandaged it up, told me next time be careful.
> No big deal with the folks either, basically told me the same.
>
> Ah, how times have changed. Back then they figured if you got hurt
> doing something stupid, it was your own fault, because you were stupid.
> Now if you get hurt from doing something stupid, they figure it's the
> school/teacher at fault for letting you be stupid.
>
> JOAT
> Failure is not an option.
> But it is definitely a possibility.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>

DB

"David Binkowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

04/09/2003 5:59 AM

In terms of wood, 1/8th of an inch isn't much. Where flesh is
concerned, the measurements take on a whole new significance...

--
The software said it ran under Windows 98/NT/2000, or better.
So I installed it on Linux...
"bobbg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think a lot of schools have opted to drop shop clases,a dying art form!
I
> am sure there are guys that can take the worst pile of junk and make
> somthing dead on with it just by knowing the tool and how to ues it.
> I think schools are more about buying computer stuff to teach kids insted
of
> shop tools. They need to learn as much of everything as they can and
decide
> what there going to do for a living from that.
> "Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Well, since so many people seem prone to spread it around when they
> > have an accident on a power tool, thought I would too.
> >
> > This was my first ever accident involving a bench/table saw - ever
> > - since I first fired up a table saw, in my high school sophmore shop
> > class, in the fall of 1955.
> >
> > This is a little HF bench saw I got new for about $79 a few years
> > back, 10". I don't use it a lot, but I was out today and got a deal on
> > a carbide tip blade. So, decided to change blades, as the plywood blade
> > on it was getting dull.
> >
> > The long crescent wrench was in the house, so used a short one.
> > When it loosened, my hand slipped, and nicked the ring finger on my
> > right hand. If I'd used a longer crescent wrench, this could probably
> > have been avoided.
> >
> > And I bet you guys thought you were going to hear something
> > horrible about a HF saw causing an accident. LOL Actually, it's a
> > pretty decent saw, I don't use it a lot, but it does just what I need.
> > I tuned it after the new blade was on, and the tilt was dead on right
> > from the factory. It was a bit off from the mitre slot, but a couple of
> > minutes put it very close to dead on. I didn't use a dial calipher, but
> > a new steel rule.
> >
> > Our shop teacher showed us what kickback was, and told us to stay
> > out of line, before we were allowed to touch the saw. Told us to use
> > push sticks too. I've never had kickback, and I feel it is because I
> > listened to my shop teacher, all those years ago.
> >
> > In fact, the worst shop accident I ever had was in shop class the
> > year before. I was sanding something on a disc/belt combination sander,
> > huge industrial size, and let a finger touch the disc. Took about an
> > eighth of an inch off. That's when I learned, keep the body parts away
> > from the whirly parts. Now days, the school and teacher would probably
> > get sued. Back then, they bandaged it up, told me next time be careful.
> > No big deal with the folks either, basically told me the same.
> >
> > Ah, how times have changed. Back then they figured if you got hurt
> > doing something stupid, it was your own fault, because you were stupid.
> > Now if you get hurt from doing something stupid, they figure it's the
> > school/teacher at fault for letting you be stupid.
> >
> > JOAT
> > Failure is not an option.
> > But it is definitely a possibility.
> >
> > Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> > Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
> > http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
> >
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

05/09/2003 3:44 AM

Ever seen a glove get into a belt sander? If you had, you would quit wearing
the gloves.
"Greg Sellers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>

> However, I lightly touched my 6x48" belt sander the other day and now
> have
> a bandaid on a fingertip. I always wear gloves when using that thing,
> but
> for some reason I wasn't that day.
>
> -Greg

CS

"Charlie Spitzer"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

04/09/2003 11:19 AM


"Greg Sellers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I too always remember what my shop teacher told us back in 1983. "If
> you
> cut yourself, please don't bleed on my floor" That sort of woke us up
> to
> the fact that these power tools might hurt you and there was no
> horseplay
> or any accidents. Of course, the fact that he was missing a couple
> fingers
> also was enlightening to a bunch of kids.
>
> However, I lightly touched my 6x48" belt sander the other day and now
> have
> a bandaid on a fingertip. I always wear gloves when using that thing,
> but
> for some reason I wasn't that day.
>
> -Greg

wearing gloves around spinny things is a good way to lose parts of your
hands, if not your entire hand and arm.

>
> Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT wrote:
> >
> > Well, since so many people seem prone to spread it around when they
> > have an accident on a power tool, thought I would too.
> >
> > This was my first ever accident involving a bench/table saw - ever
> > - since I first fired up a table saw, in my high school sophmore shop
> > class, in the fall of 1955.
> >
> > This is a little HF bench saw I got new for about $79 a few years
> > back, 10". I don't use it a lot, but I was out today and got a deal on
> > a carbide tip blade. So, decided to change blades, as the plywood blade
> > on it was getting dull.
> >
> > The long crescent wrench was in the house, so used a short one.
> > When it loosened, my hand slipped, and nicked the ring finger on my
> > right hand. If I'd used a longer crescent wrench, this could probably
> > have been avoided.
> >
> > And I bet you guys thought you were going to hear something
> > horrible about a HF saw causing an accident. LOL Actually, it's a
> > pretty decent saw, I don't use it a lot, but it does just what I need.
> > I tuned it after the new blade was on, and the tilt was dead on right
> > from the factory. It was a bit off from the mitre slot, but a couple of
> > minutes put it very close to dead on. I didn't use a dial calipher, but
> > a new steel rule.
> >
> > Our shop teacher showed us what kickback was, and told us to stay
> > out of line, before we were allowed to touch the saw. Told us to use
> > push sticks too. I've never had kickback, and I feel it is because I
> > listened to my shop teacher, all those years ago.
> >
> > In fact, the worst shop accident I ever had was in shop class the
> > year before. I was sanding something on a disc/belt combination sander,
> > huge industrial size, and let a finger touch the disc. Took about an
> > eighth of an inch off. That's when I learned, keep the body parts away
> > from the whirly parts. Now days, the school and teacher would probably
> > get sued. Back then, they bandaged it up, told me next time be careful.
> > No big deal with the folks either, basically told me the same.
> >
> > Ah, how times have changed. Back then they figured if you got hurt
> > doing something stupid, it was your own fault, because you were stupid.
> > Now if you get hurt from doing something stupid, they figure it's the
> > school/teacher at fault for letting you be stupid.
> >
> > JOAT
> > Failure is not an option.
> > But it is definitely a possibility.
> >
> > Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> > Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
> > http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

BS

"Ben Siders"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

04/09/2003 6:25 PM

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:19:52 -0700, Charlie Spitzer wrote:

> wearing gloves around spinny things is a good way to lose parts of your
> hands, if not your entire hand and arm.

Yeah, I kind of thought the same thing. I figured a sharp spinning thing
would likely amputate a part of my finger if I strayed too close, but were
a piece of fabric to get caught in it, I would very lose much more. I
only wear gloves when moving stock around because I've already had to dig
multitudes of splinters out of my hands and it hurts and I'm sick of doing
it. :)

Cc

"CW"

in reply to [email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) on 03/09/2003 9:05 PM

05/09/2003 3:56 AM

Bear-tex makes a wheel that is basically a Scotchbrite type material. They
come in various sizes but the ones we used were 12" diameter and 2" wide,
spinning at 3400 RPM. They do a great job of buffing as they are quite hard
so they don't roll edges. They also remove skin quite efficiently. Over the
years, I have gotten my knuckles into these things a few times. I know how
you feel with that sander. Be careful, they bite.
"Stephanie and Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:I%[email protected]...
> Oooooh - I've done that "sand off a bit on the disc sander" myself. Gets
> your attention much more than a normal cut.
>
>
> "David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In terms of wood, 1/8th of an inch isn't much. Where flesh is
> > concerned, the measurements take on a whole new significance...
>
>
>
>


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