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"Edwin Pawlowski"

25/12/2004 3:43 PM

Tool Problem

All my tools are no good any more.

I planed some wood to 3/4" and it seemed OK.

I cut some strips to 1/8" and they seem to fit OK.

What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just found
out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size. Not only
does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740

The 1/8" strips shrunk also. The first one I grabbed was a mere .123.

I've already tossed the defective wood into the wood stove and I'm setting
my tools out by the curb for trash day. Now that I have a digital readout
caliper, I'm going to buy all new tools that are accurate and start over.

Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment
Ed


This topic has 23 replies

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"Roger Shoaf"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 2:06 PM


"DanG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:46hzd.3253$4h.2824@okepread03...


> My dad is a retired tool and die maker. I always remember him
> making a drawer for a stereo, no probably hi-fi cabinet when I was
> a kid. We lived in arid Colorado and there were still plenty of
> days that you couldn't make that drawer budge. Wait for a few low
> humidity days and it would work just fine.

I sometimes wonder if houses would improve if the yahoos that work framing
tract houses would serve as an apprentice to a tool and die maker for 6
months or so.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

tT

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 6:19 PM

Edwin wrote: >"What went wrong?" snip

Heehee! Felt the same way when I bought some accurate squares and
straightedges! Tom
Work at your leisure!

jJ

[email protected] (JMartin957)

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

07/01/2005 5:12 AM

>
>All my tools are no good any more.
>
>I planed some wood to 3/4" and it seemed OK.
>
>I cut some strips to 1/8" and they seem to fit OK.
>
>What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just found
>out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size. Not only
>does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740
>
>The 1/8" strips shrunk also. The first one I grabbed was a mere .123.
>
>I've already tossed the defective wood into the wood stove and I'm setting
>my tools out by the curb for trash day. Now that I have a digital readout
>caliper, I'm going to buy all new tools that are accurate and start over.
>
>Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
>says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment
>Ed
>
>

You really shouldn't be using a dial caliper for that - it isn't accurate
enough. Try a good set of vernier calipers instead.

And then, when you have finally become a fine woodworker and can hit the .750"
right on, buy a tenths micrometer so you can shoot for .7500".

John Martin

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 11:37 AM

> What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just found
> out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size. Not
> only does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740

Thanks for proving me wrong... I always tell people that when drilling
holes with my equipment, they don't need to worry about runout as much as
metal workers do because I'd never heard of someone using either a caliper
or micrometer on wood... You, my dear friend just erased that argument from
my answer book. :(
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
http://www.autodrill.com
http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com

V8013

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 11:40 AM

Oh... And it sounds like the wood shrunk/dried and/or wasn't held tight to
the table as you worked it.

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"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just
>> found out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size.
>> Not only does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740
>
> Thanks for proving me wrong... I always tell people that when drilling
> holes with my equipment, they don't need to worry about runout as much as
> metal workers do because I'd never heard of someone using either a caliper
> or micrometer on wood... You, my dear friend just erased that argument
> from my answer book. :(
> --
>
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> http://www.autodrill.com
> http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com
>
> V8013
>

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 11:46 PM

> I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be painful to
> remove.

It's Christmas... Everyone deserves a response today... Even the trolls.
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
http://www.autodrill.com
http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com

V8013

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 4:34 AM


"Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be painful to
> remove.
>
> todd

I figured the time discrepancy comment would be enough to eliminate the
barb.

In reality, the caliper is probably not going to increase accuracy very
much, if any, but is easier than trying to see those little lines on the
ruler.

Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 7:29 PM

Todd Fatheree wrote:
> I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be painful to
> remove.

From the responses, my guess is a harness with treble hooks. Well
cast indeed.
Dave in Fairfax
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Guess who

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 4:32 PM

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:58:11 -0600, John T
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I use calipers when planing my wood.

I use a plane. :-)

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 11:06 AM

Goodness - gracious,

Throw out the parts and try again. Off by 8/100's or more!!!!!!
There is a hundredths scale on my old frame square. I haven't
been able to read that scale without glasses and a magnifying
glass for over 20 years.

My dad is a retired tool and die maker. I always remember him
making a drawer for a stereo, no probably hi-fi cabinet when I was
a kid. We lived in arid Colorado and there were still plenty of
days that you couldn't make that drawer budge. Wait for a few low
humidity days and it would work just fine. His clearance
allowance would have been unconscionable in metal work.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
[email protected]



"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All my tools are no good any more.
>
> I planed some wood to 3/4" and it seemed OK.
>
> I cut some strips to 1/8" and they seem to fit OK.
>
> What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I
> just found out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is
> way under size. Not only does it measure .742, it has low
> spots that measure .740
>
> The 1/8" strips shrunk also. The first one I grabbed was a mere
> .123.
>
> I've already tossed the defective wood into the wood stove and
> I'm setting my tools out by the curb for trash day. Now that I
> have a digital readout caliper, I'm going to buy all new tools
> that are accurate and start over.
>
> Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the
> digital clock says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an
> appointment
> Ed
>

b

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 11:33 AM

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:43:41 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>All my tools are no good any more.
>
>I planed some wood to 3/4" and it seemed OK.
>
>I cut some strips to 1/8" and they seem to fit OK.
>
>What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just found
>out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size. Not only
>does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740
>
>The 1/8" strips shrunk also. The first one I grabbed was a mere .123.
>
>I've already tossed the defective wood into the wood stove and I'm setting
>my tools out by the curb for trash day. Now that I have a digital readout
>caliper, I'm going to buy all new tools that are accurate and start over.
>


Where do you live?





>Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
>says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment
>Ed
>

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 11:18 AM

"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be painful
to
> > remove.
>
> It's Christmas... Everyone deserves a response today... Even the trolls.

And the gullible.

todd

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 7:19 AM

John T <[email protected]> wrote in news:PAkzd.3917$Rg1.1224
@fe03.lga:

> I use calipers when planing my wood.
>

How do you sharpen them? Waterstones?

Patriarch

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 7:18 AM

Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Todd Fatheree wrote:
>> I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be
>> painful to remove.
>
> From the responses, my guess is a harness with treble hooks. Well
> cast indeed.
> Dave in Fairfax

Doesn't your newsreader recognize the sarcasm flag?

Patriarch

JT

John T

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 2:58 PM

I use calipers when planing my wood.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 6:06 PM


"Roger Shoaf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "DanG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:46hzd.3253$4h.2824@okepread03...
>
>
> > My dad is a retired tool and die maker. I always remember him
> > making a drawer for a stereo, no probably hi-fi cabinet when I was
> > a kid. We lived in arid Colorado and there were still plenty of
> > days that you couldn't make that drawer budge. Wait for a few low
> > humidity days and it would work just fine.
>
> I sometimes wonder if houses would improve if the yahoos that work framing
> tract houses would serve as an apprentice to a tool and die maker for 6
> months or so.
>

Hell... they'd improve if those yahoos were forced to work for six months
under a journeyman carpenter.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]


Mm

"Markndawoods"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 12:06 PM

OMG!
Sucker fish galore! I cannot believe they are still biting today!!!

>
>> V8013
>
> I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be painful to
> remove.
>
> todd
>
>

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 7:52 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> All my tools are no good any more.

Hmm - if you email me, vmail me or snail mail me, or call me at one of the
six phone numbers associated with me now - I'll walk you though fixing that
caliper. Clearly it needs the battery removed to work better.


>
> Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
> says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment

NIST in Boulder is nearby. Hold on while I check their Cesium clock...

TT

TWS

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 4:35 AM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 00:05:33 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:43:41 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
>>says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment
>
>Fortune cookie - "Man with two clocks never really sure what time it
>is."
>
>My wooddorking version - "Man with two measuring sticks never really
>sure of size."
>
>Barry
Corollary to the wooddorking version: "Man who has tool reading in ten
thousandths of an inch will never be satisfied with the result."

TWS

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 11:01 AM

"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just
found
> > out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size. Not
> > only does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740
>
> Thanks for proving me wrong... I always tell people that when drilling
> holes with my equipment, they don't need to worry about runout as much as
> metal workers do because I'd never heard of someone using either a caliper
> or micrometer on wood... You, my dear friend just erased that argument
from
> my answer book. :(
> --
>
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> http://www.autodrill.com
> http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com
>
> V8013

I hope Edwin didn't use a barbed hook this time. Those can be painful to
remove.

todd

TT

TWS

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

25/12/2004 5:33 PM

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:43:41 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>All my tools are no good any more.
>
>I planed some wood to 3/4" and it seemed OK.
>
>I cut some strips to 1/8" and they seem to fit OK.
>
>What went wrong? I got a new digital caliper for Christmas. I just found
>out the wood I planed (or so I thought) to 3/4" is way under size. Not only
>does it measure .742, it has low spots that measure .740
>
>The 1/8" strips shrunk also. The first one I grabbed was a mere .123.
>
>I've already tossed the defective wood into the wood stove and I'm setting
>my tools out by the curb for trash day. Now that I have a digital readout
>caliper, I'm going to buy all new tools that are accurate and start over.
>
>Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
>says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment
>Ed
>
Cute.
TWS

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 11:33 AM

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:19:07 GMT, Patriarch
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>John T <[email protected]> wrote in news:PAkzd.3917$Rg1.1224
>@fe03.lga:
>
>> I use calipers when planing my wood.
>>
>How do you sharpen them? Waterstones?

Another Q for him: Brake, dial, electronic LCD, or vernier?


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Ba r r y

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 25/12/2004 3:43 PM

26/12/2004 12:05 AM

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:43:41 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Anyone know the correct time? My watch says 10:42 but the digital clock
>says it is 10:43:15 so I'm going to be late for an appointment

Fortune cookie - "Man with two clocks never really sure what time it
is."

My wooddorking version - "Man with two measuring sticks never really
sure of size."

Barry


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