First of all let me say that I buy my wood from the box stores.
I finally ventured into a local sawmill, boy that blade sure is huge!!
Anyway, I am looking for rough cut pine for a rustic cabin project I am
working on. Now, never having bought wood from a sawmill He told me that is
is .60 a board foot. It is my understanding that a board foot is 1 in by 12
by 12.
So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards and I would be needing
enough wood to cover two 14'x8' walls. Now here comes my question:
I have :
224 total sq. ft. of walls
250 sq ft of ceiling
474 total sq. ft.
Would my total cost be 142.20?
thanks
Searcher
Hi Searcher,
In theory, yes. But, if he doesn't normally stock 2/4 lumber there
might be extra charges and minimums for a custom job. Is this for
interior panneling? You might want to see if he already stocks
something ready made for your purposes.
Ed Bennett
[email protected]
http://www.ts-aligner.com
Shopdog wrote:
> First of all let me say that I buy my wood from the box stores.
> I finally ventured into a local sawmill, boy that blade sure is huge!!
> Anyway, I am looking for rough cut pine for a rustic cabin project I am
> working on. Now, never having bought wood from a sawmill He told me that is
> is .60 a board foot. It is my understanding that a board foot is 1 in by 12
> by 12.
> So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards and I would be needing
> enough wood to cover two 14'x8' walls. Now here comes my question:
>
> I have :
> 224 total sq. ft. of walls
> 250 sq ft of ceiling
>
> 474 total sq. ft.
>
> Would my total cost be 142.20?
>
>
> thanks
>
> Searcher
Shopdog wrote:
...
> ...
> is .60 a board foot. It is my understanding that a board foot is 1 in by 12
> by 12.
> So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards and I would be needing
> enough wood to cover two 14'x8' walls. Now here comes my question:
>
...
> 474 total sq. ft.
>
> Would my total cost be 142.20?
...
No. A bd-ft is as you say, but easier to think of as 1" T, 1' W x 1'
L.
The _finished_ material you're asking for is only 1/2" T, but the
pricing at the sawmill will be based on the _rough_ material required
to make it, plus milling charges for making the paneling boards you
want (assuming it is a mill shop and they do such things, not just
sawyers). In all likelihood they won't saw less than 1" rough so the
base material would be 1" T and so the computation of the board feet
purchased will be based on that, but it is possible particularly if
they do have a bandsaw mill they might go to 3/4 roughsawn.
As somebody else noted, what you really need to do is to tell the guy
what you want and get a quote on that and hopefully find something they
do routinely. Plus, of course, you're going to need a fair amount of
overage for wastage, etc. Is this graded or "tree run" and do you care
about knots, wane, split ends, etc., etc.? If you're expecting all you
get to be clear, usable lumber and as this sounds like, he's quoting
straight off the log "as it comes", you probably won't be getting what
you expect.
I'm assuming
In article <RHP6h.3622$fk2.3433@trndny02>, Shopdog <[email protected]>
wrote:
> So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards
You're asking for "finished" boards which are typically sold by the
linear foot, not the board foot.
Board foot:
I bought some cherry short cuts today for $4 Canadian a BF. They're
15/16" x 6 x 24. (15/16 because they're surfaced one side). (maybe a
bit of a neener, there).
I need to joint them, plane, resaw some of them and plane again...
before I can begin to use them for the jewelry box SWMBO has told me
she wants for Christmas.
Now...
They had some nice, similar, walnut offcuts at $6 a BF, but also some
lovely S4S walnut boards. Those were 1/2" x 6" at $10 a *linear* foot
or $20 a BF.
See the difference? BF = rough lumber, LF = surface finished boards &
2X+ the cost.
It would be highly unusual for a sawmill to provide "2/4" material. A
more common thickness would be 4/4 and you would surface and mill the
wood to your thinner specifications. The lumber mill might provide the
thickness you are after, but I presume that there would be a milling
charge or premium of some kind to reflect the additional work. I would
plan on spending double your estimate (plus some for waste) to get the
job done.
Rick
Shopdog wrote:
> First of all let me say that I buy my wood from the box stores.
> I finally ventured into a local sawmill, boy that blade sure is huge!!
> Anyway, I am looking for rough cut pine for a rustic cabin project I am
> working on. Now, never having bought wood from a sawmill He told me that is
> is .60 a board foot. It is my understanding that a board foot is 1 in by 12
> by 12.
> So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards and I would be needing
> enough wood to cover two 14'x8' walls. Now here comes my question:
>
> I have :
> 224 total sq. ft. of walls
> 250 sq ft of ceiling
>
> 474 total sq. ft.
>
> Would my total cost be 142.20?
>
>
> thanks
>
> Searcher
>
>
"Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:vz%6h.8321$bj1.4340@trndny05...
> Well, for this project I want the roughest, knottiest looking wood I can
> find. What I am doing is turning the upstairs of my shop into what is
> supposed to look like an 1800's mining type cabin. I finished one 12X12
> room already and it looks great. I just have to finish the 18 X 12 room
> now. The first round of rough cut I got was actuallya fluke, an elderly
> Amish man offered rough cut pine 1X6X10-12-16 to me for only 1.50 a board.
> I got about 150 various length boards and used just about all of them for
> my first room. The lumber he had was from his own property and he felt he
> needn't waste the trees so he cut them to whatever length he could.
>
> Thanks for all the advice, I will ask the guy for a complete price for
> both 1/2 and 1" T. see if it makes a difference.
I'm getting the impression that you actually want to use the lumber
rough-sawn--if that is the case be sure to tell him that that half-inch is
rough sawn, not planed.
>
> Thanks Again
>
> Searcher
>
>
The 1/2" doesn't count. The thinnest (littlest) board foot
number that is used is 1", whether it is milled to 3/4" or 1/2".
In your example a board foot and a square foot would work out the
same.
___________________________
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG
"Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:RHP6h.3622$fk2.3433@trndny02...
> First of all let me say that I buy my wood from the box stores.
> I finally ventured into a local sawmill, boy that blade sure is
> huge!! Anyway, I am looking for rough cut pine for a rustic
> cabin project I am working on. Now, never having bought wood
> from a sawmill He told me that is is .60 a board foot. It is my
> understanding that a board foot is 1 in by 12 by 12.
> So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards and I would
> be needing enough wood to cover two 14'x8' walls. Now here comes
> my question:
>
> I have :
> 224 total sq. ft. of walls
> 250 sq ft of ceiling
>
> 474 total sq. ft.
>
> Would my total cost be 142.20?
>
>
> thanks
>
> Searcher
>
>
Well, for this project I want the roughest, knottiest looking wood I can
find. What I am doing is turning the upstairs of my shop into what is
supposed to look like an 1800's mining type cabin. I finished one 12X12 room
already and it looks great. I just have to finish the 18 X 12 room now. The
first round of rough cut I got was actuallya fluke, an elderly Amish man
offered rough cut pine 1X6X10-12-16 to me for only 1.50 a board. I got about
150 various length boards and used just about all of them for my first room.
The lumber he had was from his own property and he felt he needn't waste the
trees so he cut them to whatever length he could.
Thanks for all the advice, I will ask the guy for a complete price for both
1/2 and 1" T. see if it makes a difference.
Thanks Again
Searcher
In article <RHP6h.3622$fk2.3433@trndny02>, Shopdog <[email protected]> wrote:
>First of all let me say that I buy my wood from the box stores.
>I finally ventured into a local sawmill, boy that blade sure is huge!!
>Anyway, I am looking for rough cut pine for a rustic cabin project I am
>working on. Now, never having bought wood from a sawmill He told me that is
>is .60 a board foot. It is my understanding that a board foot is 1 in by 12
>by 12.
>So, if I were to ask him for 1/2 X 6 X 10' boards and I would be needing
>enough wood to cover two 14'x8' walls. Now here comes my question:
>
>I have :
>224 total sq. ft. of walls
>250 sq ft of ceiling
>
>474 total sq. ft.
>
>Would my total cost be 142.20?
>
>
>thanks
>
>Searcher
>
>
Probably not. If you want to know exactly what it will cost you will
have to tell the mill what exactly you want and see what price they
come up with. They may or may not be willing to haggle. Generally,
even for rough surfaced 1/2" thick boards, a mill will still use 1"
as the thickness for calculating BF. Reason being, basically, that
they will say that they have to start with the same # of BF to get 474
sq ft of 1/2" planks as 474 sq ft of 3/4" thick planks.
--
A man who throws dirt loses ground.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - [email protected]