Ok, I am WAY behind on new technology. The other day,
I picked up my first DVD recorder at Costco for $180.
See, I'm building this entertainment center (I'll post
some pics a little later in ABPW), so I thought that it
would be real nice to have one of these things.
I have about 200 episodes of Norm from 1989 to
present - missing about 18 or 19 I think. Some taped
from PBS on their original air date, some from HGTV
when they were still showing them. Some EP ;-((but
some SP!)
Anyhow, I have these 200 "shows". Thought it would be
cool to transfer them "in the original order" to DVD. Why
original order? If you're asking, then you're not anal
enough to be collecting Norm!
A couple of observations (still in season 1 (1989)):
1. Norm was a lot fatter back then (opposite
for me.)
2. No Bessey's, just pipes.
3. No brad nailer, just a hammer & 4 pennys.
4. No guard on his TS (now either) - sorry, me too.
5. At this point, I figure that I am about 10 years
behind Norm - but I was 30+ behind when I started
watching.
Of course, LRod's site is the best for NYW info, but
I am going to be watching (as I record) all 200
episodes in order.
Hope I don't get Norm'ed out. My goal is to have them all
tranferred to DVD before the new season (Jan '06),
so I can record them direct to DVD.
Why do this?
Don't know exactly - but I did learn a lot from them
over the years.
Lou
"Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Going off on a slight tangent here. I have hundreds of vinyl records that
> I will not transfer to CD simply because I know the vinyl has lasted 25-30
> years. We cannot say the same about CD's...yet.
But will they last another 25 years if you play them?
Once huge difference is the method of play. records are in contact with a
stylus and eventually it has to wear out. with a CD, there is not physical
contact. In theory, if the material is stable and does not crack, they will
last forever no matter how many times they are layer. Make and play the CD
and save the vinyl as backup.
Delkin also has new disks that are 100 years. Pricey.
http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_archival_gold.html
Bob by Chicago
"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>
>> It's not just cracking that needs to be considered, it's also whether
>> the
>> plastics will yellow over time such that their optical properties change,
>> rendering the disk unreadable. Suspect that this is going to be brand
>> and
>> material dependant.
>>
>
> TDK predicts 70 years. Kodak says 100 years. Looks like they'll outlast
> me.
>
> http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/Media/Longevity.html
>
> --
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> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
> (Remove -SPAM- to send email)
"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:130820051957134321%[email protected]...
Sneeeeeip
>
> Hope I don't get Norm'ed out. My goal is to have them all
> tranferred to DVD before the new season (Jan '06),
> so I can record them direct to DVD.
>
> Why do this?
Because the recorder is new and fun.
I just got threw recording 18 James Bond movies on my DVR. I then recorded
these from the DVR to DVD-RAM disks. I then edited the comertials out of
the RAM Disks and because DVD-R is so cheaper compared to RAM disks I played
the RAM disks on my Carosel DVD player and re-re-recorded them from the
Edited RAM disks to the DVD-R disks. Whew.
I am definitely James Bonded out. I am only missing 2 of the series.
"Tombo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> DVD's pah.... hard disks and mpegs are the future I am now legacy free in
> my living room, not a single tape cd or dvd in site. I have ripped my
> entire collection of disks 100+ dvd's and 400+ cd's to my PC server, that
> also contains all my digital photos.
What is the possibility of losing all in a crash? What do you back it up
to? I would think a mirror drive of some sort would give good protection.
Sounds like a handy way of storing everything in a small space and easily
accessed.
Mark & Juanita wrote:
> It's not just cracking that needs to be considered, it's also whether the
> plastics will yellow over time such that their optical properties change,
> rendering the disk unreadable. Suspect that this is going to be brand and
> material dependant.
>
TDK predicts 70 years. Kodak says 100 years. Looks like they'll
outlast me.
http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/Media/Longevity.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
(Remove -SPAM- to send email)
Going off on a slight tangent here. I have hundreds of vinyl records
that I will not transfer to CD simply because I know the vinyl has
lasted 25-30 years. We cannot say the same about CD's...yet.
Question: Do you watch your DVD's in your BVD's?
Have fun.
Joe
loutent wrote:
> Ok, I am WAY behind on new technology. The other day,
> I picked up my first DVD recorder at Costco for $180.
> See, I'm building this entertainment center (I'll post
> some pics a little later in ABPW), so I thought that it
> would be real nice to have one of these things.
>
> I have about 200 episodes of Norm from 1989 to
> present - missing about 18 or 19 I think. Some taped
> from PBS on their original air date, some from HGTV
> when they were still showing them. Some EP ;-((but
> some SP!)
>
> Anyhow, I have these 200 "shows". Thought it would be
> cool to transfer them "in the original order" to DVD. Why
> original order? If you're asking, then you're not anal
> enough to be collecting Norm!
>
> A couple of observations (still in season 1 (1989)):
>
> 1. Norm was a lot fatter back then (opposite
> for me.)
> 2. No Bessey's, just pipes.
> 3. No brad nailer, just a hammer & 4 pennys.
> 4. No guard on his TS (now either) - sorry, me too.
> 5. At this point, I figure that I am about 10 years
> behind Norm - but I was 30+ behind when I started
> watching.
>
> Of course, LRod's site is the best for NYW info, but
> I am going to be watching (as I record) all 200
> episodes in order.
>
> Hope I don't get Norm'ed out. My goal is to have them all
> tranferred to DVD before the new season (Jan '06),
> so I can record them direct to DVD.
>
> Why do this?
>
> Don't know exactly - but I did learn a lot from them
> over the years.
>
> Lou
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> What is the possibility of losing all in a crash? What do you back it up
> to? I would think a mirror drive of some sort would give good protection.
> Sounds like a handy way of storing everything in a small space and easily
> accessed.
>
Not too worried about a crash the only thing i would really miss would
be my digi photos so i have several backups on DVD. If i lose the movies
and music i will have to re-rip my disks :( not an appealing prospect as
it would take a while but i could always play the original if i had to.
George Shouse wrote:
>
>
> Lots of people still don't want to spend a few grand on hard
> disks when a DVD player is $50. But, I'm with you on the audio.
Ive not spent a lot on my config, my server pc is a 5 year old 1200 Mhz
that got replaced by my new pc, and i had an xbox anyway. The cost to me
was an extra 250gig hard drive. Since doing this i have actually saved
money cause my kids regularly trashed DVD's i am on my third copy of the
lion king, wont be doing that again.
Tom
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:18:42 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Going off on a slight tangent here. I have hundreds of vinyl records that
>> I will not transfer to CD simply because I know the vinyl has lasted 25-30
>> years. We cannot say the same about CD's...yet.
>
>But will they last another 25 years if you play them?
>
>Once huge difference is the method of play. records are in contact with a
>stylus and eventually it has to wear out. with a CD, there is not physical
>contact. In theory, if the material is stable and does not crack, they will
>last forever no matter how many times they are layer. Make and play the CD
>and save the vinyl as backup.
>
It's not just cracking that needs to be considered, it's also whether the
plastics will yellow over time such that their optical properties change,
rendering the disk unreadable. Suspect that this is going to be brand and
material dependant.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
That plus VHS tapes degrade/fail with time. Get them onto the DVDs
ASAP or down the road they may not be playable at all
John
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:28:04 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:130820051957134321%[email protected]...
>
>
>Sneeeeeip
>
>>
>> Hope I don't get Norm'ed out. My goal is to have them all
>> tranferred to DVD before the new season (Jan '06),
>> so I can record them direct to DVD.
>>
>> Why do this?
>
>Because the recorder is new and fun.
>
>I just got threw recording 18 James Bond movies on my DVR. I then recorded
>these from the DVR to DVD-RAM disks. I then edited the comertials out of
>the RAM Disks and because DVD-R is so cheaper compared to RAM disks I played
>the RAM disks on my Carosel DVD player and re-re-recorded them from the
>Edited RAM disks to the DVD-R disks. Whew.
>
>I am definitely James Bonded out. I am only missing 2 of the series.
>
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:18:42 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Going off on a slight tangent here. I have hundreds of vinyl records that
>> I will not transfer to CD simply because I know the vinyl has lasted 25-30
>> years. We cannot say the same about CD's...yet.
>
>But will they last another 25 years if you play them?
>
>Once huge difference is the method of play. records are in contact with a
>stylus and eventually it has to wear out. with a CD, there is not physical
>contact. In theory, if the material is stable and does not crack, they will
>last forever no matter how many times they are layer. Make and play the CD
>and save the vinyl as backup.
I've heard as low as 10 years for cheap disks.
http://www.gcn.com/23_5/news/25166-1.html
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:44:35 +0100, Tombo <[email protected]>
wrote:
>loutent wrote:
>> Ok, I am WAY behind on new technology. The other day,
>> I picked up my first DVD recorder at Costco for $180.
>
>DVD's pah.... hard disks and mpegs are the future I am now legacy free
>in my living room, not a single tape cd or dvd in site. I have ripped my
>entire collection of disks 100+ dvd's and 400+ cd's to my PC server,
>that also contains all my digital photos. Under my tv I have an XBOX
>running xboxmediacenter that connects to the server and can view and
>play the entire collection all via remote control no searching for
>disks. Oh and its a pretty good games machine too.
>
>does anyone remeber an episode of the simpsons, homer was at the dump
>getting rid of somthing... first he drives past a pile with a sign
>'8-tracks here' then a pile with 'VHS here' and then an empty space
>saying 'reserved for DVD'...
Lots of people still don't want to spend a few grand on hard
disks when a DVD player is $50. But, I'm with you on the audio.
loutent wrote:
> Ok, I am WAY behind on new technology. The other day,
> I picked up my first DVD recorder at Costco for $180.
DVD's pah.... hard disks and mpegs are the future I am now legacy free
in my living room, not a single tape cd or dvd in site. I have ripped my
entire collection of disks 100+ dvd's and 400+ cd's to my PC server,
that also contains all my digital photos. Under my tv I have an XBOX
running xboxmediacenter that connects to the server and can view and
play the entire collection all via remote control no searching for
disks. Oh and its a pretty good games machine too.
does anyone remeber an episode of the simpsons, homer was at the dump
getting rid of somthing... first he drives past a pile with a sign
'8-tracks here' then a pile with 'VHS here' and then an empty space
saying 'reserved for DVD'...
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> writes:
> "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Going off on a slight tangent here. I have hundreds of vinyl records that
> > I will not transfer to CD simply because I know the vinyl has lasted 25-30
> > years. We cannot say the same about CD's...yet.
>
> But will they last another 25 years if you play them?
As any good collector of anything knows, you don't collect stuff to
USE it, you collect it to HAVE it. So playing the vinyl is completely
irrelevant here.
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