Hi,
I'd like to build a decent sized work bench, and be able to move it around
my garage. I saw this "assembly table" that has some type of mechanism to
do this from The New Yankee Homepage
(http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207). However, I can't see in
detail how it's done.
Plus, I think a heavier workbench would need some type of lever/pulley
system to get enough force to push the casters down and lift the bench up.
I'd want to be able to let the bench down gently, too - not a drop. Does
anyone have any ideas or possibly have done this?
I'd like to do this on a smaller scale, too, for my jointer, and possibly
other heavy tools.
Thx.
-- Kent Iler
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> You've gotten plenty of good advice on this, but I'm thinking that
> the easiest way to do this is a sort of wheelbarrow arrangement.
> Simply fix two wheels to one end of the bench legs just above floor
> height and facing horizontally on the outside. Attach some sort of
> "handles" at the other end so that you simply have to lift that end
> until the wheels engage on the opposite end. Roll into position and
> set it back down and you're done.
That's just too damn simple. Where's the requirement to buy a new power
tool in the plan?
> To give credit where credit's due, I believe it was Mr. Unisaur who
> first posted that idea here on the wreck.
Simple, elegant solution... Figgers it was him.
;-)
djb
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 02:27:01 GMT, "Kent P. Iler"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>But how do you have enough force to push the casters down to lift the bench.
>We're talking about a significant amount of weight for a good workbench.
>
>Some type of crank similar to those on the front of a boat trailer?
>Something that would let all the casters up gently to let the bench down?
>Air/Gas type shock system to let the rope loosen quickly, and then keep the
>bench from banging down? I'm just brainstorming - I really have no idea.
>
>Thanks.
>
>--Kent
Just brainstorming...
How about a small hydraulic jack? Doing one side at a time...in the
middle...should only take a few minutes. I've always got a jack handy
in the basement.
You might also consider not installing any casters at all...and get a
couple sets of furniture/refrigerators dollys. Then use the jack only
when you want to move the bench.
If yer gonna move the bench quite often, that may not be the best
solution.
Also...why not just get LOCKING casters? Why do you need to raise and
lower the bench. Just 2 locking casters in front would probably do
the trick for you.
Anyway...just brainstorming...with what little bit I have! lol
Good luck.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
I used the Ryobi wheels on one end just above the floor on the TS and
lathe. Works well but heavy bench might be another problem. Have
seen wheels on a jig with handles so object can be lifted that might
be adaptable for your need.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:59:52 GMT, "Kent P. Iler"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'd like to do this on a smaller scale, too, for my jointer, and possibly
>other heavy tools.
Basically, you build a hinged assembly that lifts out of the way so the
casters are pointing up when the bench is on the ground, and that fold
under the bench when it's lifted up. You can build it so you can use
your foot both ways.
I've seen plans but didn't bookmark them. It's pretty straightforward.
djb
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Ali
OK. I play around on my jointer for something works on a small scale,
and then hopefully blow it up (enlarge - that is - not explode!) for
something that works on the bench.
Thanks for your tips!
--Kent
bonomi@c-ns. (Robert Bonomi) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <VjFWa.31198$cF.11487@rwcrnsc53>,
> Kent P. Iler <[email protected]> wrote:
> >But how do you have enough force to push the casters down to lift the bench.
> >We're talking about a significant amount of weight for a good workbench.
>
> "mechanical advantage". a lever or a screw, in some form.
>
> Contemplate a board, with a caster attached 'close' (i.e. an inch or tow)
> to one end. Attached _with_a_hinge_ to one of the legs of the workbench,
> so that the caster just touches the floor, while the board is at say a 30
> degree angle above horizontal (as you move away from the hinge). Make
> the board long enough to reach the _other_ leg, "and then a bit".
>
> Press the "lever" down, to 'horizontal', and guess what happens to the
> leg where the hinge is.
>
> Make a hole in the 'other leg', to hold a 'pin' that locks the lever
> in the 'down' position. Voila!
>
> Replicate the above for each corner of the workbench, and maybe for
> any 'interior' legs (if there are any).
>
> Then, to move things, you 'lever' each leg up, and 'pin' it in that position..
>
> roll it to where you want it.
>
> Then, for each leg, you hold the lever down, remove the pin, and gently let
> the leg settle.
>
> >Some type of crank similar to those on the front of a boat trailer?
>
> That's another possibility.
>
> >Something that would let all the casters up gently to let the bench down?
>
> Usually, a one-at-a-time, kind of thing. for "simplicity's" sake. It's
> easier to build several single-point suspensions, than one multiple-point
> one.
>
> >Air/Gas type shock system to let the rope loosen quickly, and then keep the
> >bench from banging down? I'm just brainstorming - I really have no idea.
>
> overkill. Not that there's anything terribly wrong with that. <grin>
>
> >Thanks.
> >
> >--Kent
> >
> >"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
> >news:290720032144317615%dave***@balderstone.ca...
> >> Basically, you build a hinged assembly that lifts out of the way so the
> >> casters are pointing up when the bench is on the ground, and that fold
> >> under the bench when it's lifted up. You can build it so you can use
> >> your foot both ways.
> >>
> >> I've seen plans but didn't bookmark them. It's pretty straightforward.
> >>
> >> djb
> >>
> >> --
> >> "I don't always know what I'm talking about, but I know I'm right." --
> Muhammad
> >> Ali
> >
> >
It will be hard to get to the back side of my workbench when it's
against the wall where I'll need to store it (of course, I'm talking
about a bench that I haven't built yet). I'll store it along the
wall, and use it there for day to day stuff, but when I'm building
something I'll want to bring it out in the middle of the garage for
easy access to all sides.
--Kent
Jim K <jkajpust@###ameritech.net> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I don't move mine around a bunch, but here's how I do it. I made a
> piece of 2x4 with a caster on each end. When I'm ready to move the
> bench, I prop the end of the bench up using a 2x4 for a lever just
> enough to put the board and casters underneath the legs. I then pick
> up the other end and wheel it around to where I want it.
>
> I bought a real cheap set of small jack stands that I keep around for
> shop to use as a fulcrum just for cases like this.
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:59:52 GMT, "Kent P. Iler"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'd like to build a decent sized work bench, and be able to move it around
> >my garage. I saw this "assembly table" that has some type of mechanism to
> >do this from The New Yankee Homepage
> >(http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207). However, I can't see in
> >detail how it's done.
> >
> >Plus, I think a heavier workbench would need some type of lever/pulley
> >system to get enough force to push the casters down and lift the bench up.
> >I'd want to be able to let the bench down gently, too - not a drop. Does
> >anyone have any ideas or possibly have done this?
> >
> >I'd like to do this on a smaller scale, too, for my jointer, and possibly
> >other heavy tools.
> >
> >Thx.
> >
> >-- Kent Iler
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Cool idea. It probably is a bit heavy for my application. I'll see
what I can find.
--Kent
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Kent P. Iler wrote:
>
> > It will be hard to get to the back side of my workbench when it's
> > against the wall where I'll need to store it (of course, I'm talking
> > about a bench that I haven't built yet). I'll store it along the
>
> Here's a wild idea. There are thousands of old 40' and 45' trailers sitting
> around rotting. If you could get ahold of a couple sets of landing gear,
> I'll bet you could cobble something really cool together. Have it sit on
> two sets of landing gear, with casters on some bottom frame. To move it,
> crank up the feet, lowering the casters to the ground.
>
> Probably too far-out to be practical. Too heavy, too unwieldy, too hard to
> work with, too difficult to get home, not practical to obtain, but damn
> they'd make strong legs for that workbench. Maybe you could come up with
> something using less heavy duty stuff. Crank down feet for boat trailers
> or something like that maybe.
I did just pull the motor out of an old washing machine....wonder if I
could create an electric lift :-)
--Kent
Dave Balderstone <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message news:<080820031735509697%dave***@balderstone.ca>...
> In article <[email protected]>, Conan the
> Librarian <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > You've gotten plenty of good advice on this, but I'm thinking that
> > the easiest way to do this is a sort of wheelbarrow arrangement.
> > Simply fix two wheels to one end of the bench legs just above floor
> > height and facing horizontally on the outside. Attach some sort of
> > "handles" at the other end so that you simply have to lift that end
> > until the wheels engage on the opposite end. Roll into position and
> > set it back down and you're done.
>
> That's just too damn simple. Where's the requirement to buy a new power
> tool in the plan?
>
> > To give credit where credit's due, I believe it was Mr. Unisaur who
> > first posted that idea here on the wreck.
>
> Simple, elegant solution... Figgers it was him.
>
> ;-)
>
> djb
Old Rockwell/Delta catalogs sold this idea. You could get a kit with two wheels
and a long handle. Insert handle into stand, tip up onto casters, and hit the
road.
GTO(John)
>Dave Balderstone <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
>news:<080820031735509697%dave***@balderstone.ca>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Conan the
>> Librarian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > You've gotten plenty of good advice on this, but I'm thinking that
>> > the easiest way to do this is a sort of wheelbarrow arrangement.
>> > Simply fix two wheels to one end of the bench legs just above floor
>> > height and facing horizontally on the outside. Attach some sort of
>> > "handles" at the other end so that you simply have to lift that end
>> > until the wheels engage on the opposite end. Roll into position and
>> > set it back down and you're done.
>>
>> That's just too damn simple. Where's the requirement to buy a new power
>> tool in the plan?
>>
>> > To give credit where credit's due, I believe it was Mr. Unisaur who
>> > first posted that idea here on the wreck.
>>
>> Simple, elegant solution... Figgers it was him.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> djb
"Kent P. Iler" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<IwGVa.9347$cF.2920@rwcrnsc53>...
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to build a decent sized work bench, and be able to move it around
> my garage. I saw this "assembly table" that has some type of mechanism to
> do this from The New Yankee Homepage
> (http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207). However, I can't see in
> detail how it's done.
>
> Plus, I think a heavier workbench would need some type of lever/pulley
> system to get enough force to push the casters down and lift the bench up.
> I'd want to be able to let the bench down gently, too - not a drop. Does
> anyone have any ideas or possibly have done this?
You've gotten plenty of good advice on this, but I'm thinking that
the easiest way to do this is a sort of wheelbarrow arrangement.
Simply fix two wheels to one end of the bench legs just above floor
height and facing horizontally on the outside. Attach some sort of
"handles" at the other end so that you simply have to lift that end
until the wheels engage on the opposite end. Roll into position and
set it back down and you're done.
To give credit where credit's due, I believe it was Mr. Unisaur who
first posted that idea here on the wreck.
Chuck Vance
In article <VjFWa.31198$cF.11487@rwcrnsc53>,
Kent P. Iler <[email protected]> wrote:
>But how do you have enough force to push the casters down to lift the bench.
>We're talking about a significant amount of weight for a good workbench.
"mechanical advantage". a lever or a screw, in some form.
Contemplate a board, with a caster attached 'close' (i.e. an inch or tow)
to one end. Attached _with_a_hinge_ to one of the legs of the workbench,
so that the caster just touches the floor, while the board is at say a 30
degree angle above horizontal (as you move away from the hinge). Make
the board long enough to reach the _other_ leg, "and then a bit".
Press the "lever" down, to 'horizontal', and guess what happens to the
leg where the hinge is.
Make a hole in the 'other leg', to hold a 'pin' that locks the lever
in the 'down' position. Voila!
Replicate the above for each corner of the workbench, and maybe for
any 'interior' legs (if there are any).
Then, to move things, you 'lever' each leg up, and 'pin' it in that position..
roll it to where you want it.
Then, for each leg, you hold the lever down, remove the pin, and gently let
the leg settle.
>Some type of crank similar to those on the front of a boat trailer?
That's another possibility.
>Something that would let all the casters up gently to let the bench down?
Usually, a one-at-a-time, kind of thing. for "simplicity's" sake. It's
easier to build several single-point suspensions, than one multiple-point
one.
>Air/Gas type shock system to let the rope loosen quickly, and then keep the
>bench from banging down? I'm just brainstorming - I really have no idea.
overkill. Not that there's anything terribly wrong with that. <grin>
>Thanks.
>
>--Kent
>
>"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
>news:290720032144317615%dave***@balderstone.ca...
>> Basically, you build a hinged assembly that lifts out of the way so the
>> casters are pointing up when the bench is on the ground, and that fold
>> under the bench when it's lifted up. You can build it so you can use
>> your foot both ways.
>>
>> I've seen plans but didn't bookmark them. It's pretty straightforward.
>>
>> djb
>>
>> --
>> "I don't always know what I'm talking about, but I know I'm right." --
>Muhammad
>> Ali
>
>
But how do you have enough force to push the casters down to lift the bench.
We're talking about a significant amount of weight for a good workbench.
Some type of crank similar to those on the front of a boat trailer?
Something that would let all the casters up gently to let the bench down?
Air/Gas type shock system to let the rope loosen quickly, and then keep the
bench from banging down? I'm just brainstorming - I really have no idea.
Thanks.
--Kent
"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:290720032144317615%dave***@balderstone.ca...
> Basically, you build a hinged assembly that lifts out of the way so the
> casters are pointing up when the bench is on the ground, and that fold
> under the bench when it's lifted up. You can build it so you can use
> your foot both ways.
>
> I've seen plans but didn't bookmark them. It's pretty straightforward.
>
> djb
>
> --
> "I don't always know what I'm talking about, but I know I'm right." --
Muhammad
> Ali
Here's my solution on bench I just built. I put regular legs on one and,
and some legs that folded (about the last ten inches folded up and
locked down). Then I put 10" wheels on the end that had folding legs, a
little in front of the legs. The wheels are set so that when the legs
are locked down, there about a 1/2" off the ground.
Ugly, but it works.
Mike Wagner
I don't move mine around a bunch, but here's how I do it. I made a
piece of 2x4 with a caster on each end. When I'm ready to move the
bench, I prop the end of the bench up using a 2x4 for a lever just
enough to put the board and casters underneath the legs. I then pick
up the other end and wheel it around to where I want it.
I bought a real cheap set of small jack stands that I keep around for
shop to use as a fulcrum just for cases like this.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:59:52 GMT, "Kent P. Iler"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'd like to build a decent sized work bench, and be able to move it around
>my garage. I saw this "assembly table" that has some type of mechanism to
>do this from The New Yankee Homepage
>(http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207). However, I can't see in
>detail how it's done.
>
>Plus, I think a heavier workbench would need some type of lever/pulley
>system to get enough force to push the casters down and lift the bench up.
>I'd want to be able to let the bench down gently, too - not a drop. Does
>anyone have any ideas or possibly have done this?
>
>I'd like to do this on a smaller scale, too, for my jointer, and possibly
>other heavy tools.
>
>Thx.
>
>-- Kent Iler
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:59:52 GMT, "Kent P. Iler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'd like to build a decent sized work bench, and be able to move it around
>my garage. I saw this "assembly table" that has some type of mechanism to
>do this from The New Yankee Homepage
>(http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207). However, I can't see in
>detail how it's done.
>
>Plus, I think a heavier workbench would need some type of lever/pulley
>system to get enough force to push the casters down and lift the bench up.
>I'd want to be able to let the bench down gently, too - not a drop. Does
>anyone have any ideas or possibly have done this?
>
It's easier to have fixed casters and 'lengthen' the legs for this.
I have casters on the inside of each leg (looking from the end of the bench).
The legs actually sit on a 3/4 thick board. The board extends from the front leg
to the back with a lip on the outside to make sure when you kick it in place it
doesn' go to far.
To move the bench I lift and kick the board out. This puts the casters on the
floor. After moving I lift and kick the board back into place under the legs.
I use this system on my drill press and band saw as well.
It is so simple and works very well.
>I'd like to do this on a smaller scale, too, for my jointer, and possibly
>other heavy tools.
>
>Thx.
>
>-- Kent Iler
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I thought I saw this one on the Yankee Workshop site, but a quick scan and I
can't find it. Basically, the wheels are mounted to a flap which has a rope
handle attached to it. When you lift the side, the flaps falls down into
place and the wheels stay. You tug on the rope handle and the wheel flaps
pops up and you hook the rope over a hook or nail to keep them up.
Ahhhh. Here it is: http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207 I knew I
wasn't crazy. Well ....