I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
and be bullet proof durable.
Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
a confined dog can do.
One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
whelping box and chill quickly.
I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
basilisk
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:27:34 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:2aeb0456-d1fa-46f5-b91f-347ebc62189b@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>>> a confined dog can do.
>>
>> Damn, sounds like my old dorm room on Monday mornings!!!
>
>I was thinking Barracks ...
Then I'm damned glad I missed both. <shudder> And if I had my
druthers, dogs would be debarked and all new dogs would be bred
-without- their goddamned vocal cords.
--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:48:58 -0700, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote the following:
>
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Then I'm damned glad I missed both. <shudder> And if I had my
>> druthers, dogs would be debarked and all new dogs would be bred
>> -without- their goddamned vocal cords.
>>
>Dogs can be trained not to bark. It's the owners that should be fined. $1000
>per complaint would probably catch their attention.
As it is now, owners can't be guaranteed to quiet their dogs, and pet
owners appear to have a larger lobby than teachers.
The c*nt next door says she -wants- her dogs to bark, get this: to
-prove- they're watch dogs! <thud>
When I'm king, all pets will be outlawed. Want animals? Go to a zoo
or buy a ranch. Feh!
--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:33:30 -0700, chaniarts wrote:
> basilisk wrote:
>> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>> and be bullet proof durable.
>>
>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>> a confined dog can do.
>>
>> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
>> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
>> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
>> whelping box and chill quickly.
>>
>> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
>> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
>> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
>> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>>
>> basilisk
>
> the shelter where i work had a facility that had epoxy coating on the cement
> slab that went about 6" up the wall. that made it pretty easy to mop or hose
> out.
I'll look into the epoxy idea, unfortunately this isn't going to be where
I can hose it out, but the ability to mop it easily is essential.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:59:40 -0700, Artemus wrote:
> "basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>> and be bullet proof durable.
>>
>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>> a confined dog can do.
>>
>> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
>> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
>> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
>> whelping box and chill quickly.
>>
>> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
>> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
>> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
>> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>>
>> basilisk
>
> It's called cove stick.
> Just glue or nail it into the floor/wall intersection.
> Art
Thanks Art, that looks like what I need.
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:29:34 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 7/19/2010 3:08 PM, basilisk wrote:
>> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>> and be bullet proof durable.
>>
>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>> a confined dog can do.
>>
>> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
>> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
>> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
>> whelping box and chill quickly.
>>
>> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
>> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
>> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
>> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>>
>> basilisk
> It has been years since I watched this being done, so I don't remember
> how they rounded it up, but the installer cut the flooring to fit the
> area. Once they had all of the cuts and the floor covered they had a
> machine that used a hot wire to melt the flooring and seal the joint.
The room will be 9 and half feet X 15 feet, so I dont have to worry about
joining the seams, if I can get the edges rounded up.
I could build the curve out of flashing and "great stuff" behind it,
that would take a good quantity of foam though.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:20:43 -0400, dadiOH wrote:
> basilisk wrote:
>> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>> and be bullet proof durable.
>>
>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>> a confined dog can do.
>>
>> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
>> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
>> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
>> whelping box and chill quickly.
>>
>> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
>> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
>> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
>> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>>
>> basilisk
>
> I've buily two of them to use as cycloramas for photography.
>
> The first was about 50 years ago. I built a wood frame and bent masonite to
> it. Fine for me, no good for you, too great a radius.
>
> The second time I just ran mortar along the wall and stuck it off. Worked
> fine, radius was about the size of a softball.
I think you and Nova are right, the material to mortar in a radius
will be cheap and won't take long to do.
At 9.5 feet wide I can extend the sheet flooring about 16 inches
up the wall, which is a good 8 inches taller than a corgis butt,
all the waste should wind up where it can be mopped.
Walls are going to be 3/8 plywood overlaid with 1/8 melamine
hardboard, should be very durable and sanitary.
basilisk
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT), SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>> a confined dog can do.
>
> Damn, sounds like my old dorm room on Monday mornings!!!
More similar than you might realise, some of the females are
neat and clean, others, not so much.
basilisk
basilisk <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
*snip*
>
> I could build the curve out of flashing and "great stuff" behind it,
> that would take a good quantity of foam though.
If you're going to build up something out of foam, start with a base of
the beadboard stuff or decent quality insulation foam (pink or blue).
Then if you need something to adhere to the foam and flooring, use the
great stuff. At ~$4 a can, vs $8 for a 4x8 sheet of 1" beadboard (prices
are approximate and probably outdated) you'll quickly get more than 2
cans worth of foam for the same price.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
basilisk wrote:
<snip>
> I could build the curve out of flashing and "great stuff" behind it,
> that would take a good quantity of foam though.
I'd think a mortared cove would be better.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Then I'm damned glad I missed both. <shudder> And if I had my
> druthers, dogs would be debarked and all new dogs would be bred
> -without- their goddamned vocal cords.
>
Dogs can be trained not to bark. It's the owners that should be fined. $1000
per complaint would probably catch their attention.
On Jul 19, 5:15=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> basilisk wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > I could build the curve out of flashing and "great stuff" behind it,
> > that would take a good quantity of foam though.
>
> I'd think a mortared cove would be better.
The cove doesn't have to have a big radius. The objective is to
provide enough of a radius to allow the flooring to make a smooth
transition onto the wall, avoid a sharp corner which would eventually
crack, and to avoid having a tough-to-clean corner.
Mortar or thinset struck off with a screed cut to the proper radius is
an easy way to achieve the correct curvature.
R
On Jul 19, 3:19=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> > one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> > a confined dog can do.
>
> Damn, sounds like my old dorm room on Monday mornings!!!
Sounds like my grandkids have been around...Hey, if cost isn't a great
concern look up terazzo flooring. Continuous and seemless and seems
like it goes up the walls a bit too. Check out this link.
http://www.masterterrazzo.com/
RP
In article <[email protected]>,
basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>and be bullet proof durable.
>
>Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>a confined dog can do.
>
>One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
>perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
>Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
>whelping box and chill quickly.
>
>I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
>hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
>side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
>way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
A lot of that kind of flooring is 'built in place'.
A _liquid_ vinyl that is poured, and then carried up the wall
using a brush/roller.
The radiusing on any significant change of direction is not
a requirement for the material being used. It _is_ a requirement
for sanitation purposes, because it eliminates a 'corner' for stuff
to collect in.
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:08:40 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote the following:
>I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>and be bullet proof durable.
>
>Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>a confined dog can do.
Wouldn't you rather just ride your bike into a deer?
<sigh>
--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
basilisk wrote:
> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
> and be bullet proof durable.
>
> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> a confined dog can do.
>
> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
> whelping box and chill quickly.
>
> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>
Dilbert's Ultimate House (DUH) is currently offline but you can find a
picture here:
http://insomnic.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/dilbert-ultimate-house/
As I recall, he had a pet room that was tiled. Again, from my porous memory,
it had:
* Sloped floors to a central drain.
* A shelf next to the windows that held kitties looking out as well as their
needs (food, water, litter box). The cats could jump up to take care of
business, but the dogs couldn't get to the cat's food.
*. A hose bib and hose hanger on the wall.
* Storage cabinets.
* Double doors, one with a cat/dog door. Homeowner could close the second
door preventing exit by the animal from the pet room.
* Room also opened to the outside of the home.
On 7/19/2010 3:08 PM, basilisk wrote:
> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
> and be bullet proof durable.
>
> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> a confined dog can do.
>
> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
> whelping box and chill quickly.
>
> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>
> basilisk
It has been years since I watched this being done, so I don't remember
how they rounded it up, but the installer cut the flooring to fit the
area. Once they had all of the cuts and the floor covered they had a
machine that used a hot wire to melt the flooring and seal the joint.
basilisk wrote:
> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
> and be bullet proof durable.
>
> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> a confined dog can do.
>
> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
> whelping box and chill quickly.
>
> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>
> basilisk
the shelter where i work had a facility that had epoxy coating on the cement
slab that went about 6" up the wall. that made it pretty easy to mop or hose
out.
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2aeb0456-d1fa-46f5-b91f-347ebc62189b@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>> a confined dog can do.
>
> Damn, sounds like my old dorm room on Monday mornings!!!
>
I was thinking Barracks ...
"basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
> and be bullet proof durable.
>
> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> a confined dog can do.
>
> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
> whelping box and chill quickly.
>
> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>
> basilisk
It's called cove stick.
Just glue or nail it into the floor/wall intersection.
Art
This is called a "flash cove" base on a sheetgoods floor. There
are many references and illustrations, here is one:
http://www.floorexpert.com/armstrong/fpoxpert.nsf/fa8b05540df3359785256eba00710744/09c3999f3dae340e85256da300582c6a?OpenDocument
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .
"basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
> and be bullet proof durable.
>
> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> a confined dog can do.
>
> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
> whelping box and chill quickly.
>
> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>
> basilisk
basilisk wrote:
> I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
> and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
> and be bullet proof durable.
>
> Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
> one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
> a confined dog can do.
>
> One option is ceramic with a splash up the wall, but I
> perfer something that wasn't inherently so cold.
> Latched on, nursing puppies get drug out of the
> whelping box and chill quickly.
>
> I have seen continous vinyl floor used in hospital
> hallways that ran up the wall several inches on either
> side with radiused corners. Is the flooring made this
> way or is it laid against a form built into the wall?
>
> basilisk
I've buily two of them to use as cycloramas for photography.
The first was about 50 years ago. I built a wood frame and bent masonite to
it. Fine for me, no good for you, too great a radius.
The second time I just ran mortar along the wall and stuck it off. Worked
fine, radius was about the size of a softball.
--
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:08:40 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote the following:
>I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs
>and the flooring solution needs to offer easy clean up
>and be bullet proof durable.
>
>Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from
>one wall to the other, plus all the clawing and chewing
>a confined dog can do.
Sorry, the link was on wreck.metalheads, not here, so you probably
didn't catch my drift. Here ya go:
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10199/1073671-100.stm
--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:34:52 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:08:40 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
> wrote the following:
>
>>I'm considering building a whelping house for my dogs and the flooring
>>solution needs to offer easy clean up and be bullet proof durable.
>>
>>Think crap, piss, afterbirth, blood and vomit from one wall to the
>>other, plus all the clawing and chewing a confined dog can do.
>
> Sorry, the link was on wreck.metalheads, not here, so you probably
> didn't catch my drift. Here ya go:
> http://www.postgazette.com/pg/10199/1073671-100.stm
Must have been severely injured and was aware of it,
a rather unconventional approach to medicine.
basilisk
--
A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse