On Apr 23, 10:22=A0am, Evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
> SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> > On Apr 22, 1:08 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> >>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3D9606=
7
>
> >> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlig=
ht)
>
> > Craigs list is littered with the real ones. I kind of don't hold them
> > in very high regard. I suppose as a lath they look pretty good but all
> > the other setups seem to be pretty farcky, xept maybe the bandsaw but
> > never seen it up close.
>
> > Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
>
> I have one. Got it for pulling out some tree stumps with my back hoe.He
> hardly ever used it. I updated the table since it was the older one. Used=
it
> for sometime until I got tired of the table saw setup and bought a Jet
> cabinet saw off ebay for 400.00 that was used twice and 10 miles from the
> house. I still use the Shopsmith for odd things, vertical boring, conceal=
ed
> hinge boring, 10" sanding disk is handy, lathe is handy too. I have most =
of
> the other stand alone tools so it's only used for odd setups. When I firs=
t
> started with woodworking it was the only thing I had and I thought it was
> the cats meow...
> --
> You can lead them to LINUX
> but you can't make them THINK !
> Mandriva 2010 =A0using KDE 4.3
> Website: =A0www.rentmyhusband.biz
I have a friend who has one; his is sitting unused --has been for a
couple of years since its in the way-back of his garage and you can't
really get to it. :) He's offered to bring it out to my shop to get
his space back --- but he doesn't really want to part with it 'cause
he might need it again someday. I had an uncle who had one many years
ago -- he ran a sawmill and got it in some sort of trade; he used it
in all the different configurations when his regular tools were set up
for something; for example if the good lathe was setup for copying
spindles and he needed a one-off turning it went on the SS; table saw
setup just right for a set of tenons then rip a one-off board on the
SS.
My opinion on ShopSmith is that it's great for the micro-shop where
you can't spare the space for single purpose tools. You can do about
anything with one except I guess pulling stumps. The down side is
that if you have something that requires a multi-step production you
have to think real hard about order of operations or you would forever
be changing and re-setting tools -- slow, tedious and inefficient.
In response to the drive-by gloat on the saw --- you suck.
hex
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"LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/22/2010 3:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>>> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>>>
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>>>
>>> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free
>>> flashlight)
>>
>> Fit and finish has certainly changed in the last ten years. At one time
>> every piece of HF machinery of that type was rough as a cob, covered in
>> cosmoline, and you'd better be handy with a file and/or machining parts
>> that were supposed to mate ... basically it was DIY "fit and finish".
>
>
> But the machinery you're talking about was going for under $1K. This thing
> is $2,500.
I have seen them for much less than that. I picked up two of them for about
$250. I did not use them myself. I was buying some machinery at the time and
a couple friends wanted them. I owed them favors so bought them when I saw a
good price. One never used it. The other used it all the time. I never liked
them myself.
.
Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
*******************************************************
I have one, a Mark 5, built in the early 50's, which I bought used in the
70's along with a buch of lathe tools.
It has served its purpose well as a variable speed lathe for plates and
bowls. I have a sharpening stone mounted on the other end.
I also use it a lot as a horizonal boring machine.
There is a learning curve in setting up your order of work, but now that I
am used to it, I really do like it.
One last thing, living in Southern Arizona I can work outside under a porch
so I just drag it out and do all my rough turning there where the wind can
just carry off the shavings.
Works for me.
The table saw aspect is its weakest point.
Anne
Learn something every day!
On Apr 22, 5:51=A0pm, "anne watson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> .
>
> Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
> *******************************************************
> I have one, a Mark 5, built in the early 50's, which I bought used in the
> 70's =A0along with a buch of lathe tools.
>
> It has served its purpose well as a variable speed lathe for plates and
> bowls. =A0I have a sharpening stone mounted on the other end.
>
> I also use it a lot as a horizonal boring machine.
>
> There is a learning curve in setting up your order of work, but now that =
I
> am used to it, I really do like it.
>
> One last thing, living in Southern Arizona I can work outside under a por=
ch
> so I just drag it out and do all my rough turning there where the wind ca=
n
> just carry off the shavings.
>
> Works for me.
>
> The table saw aspect is its weakest point.
> Anne
On Apr 22, 4:08=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3D96067
>
> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
ITEM 96067-0VGA $1999.97
When I followed the link, it had been reduced to 2,000 so, with the
coupon we are talking $1,600 which is likely MUCH less than the SS
tool which, as I recall, considers the lock and lower wheels and the
shelves on the stand as extras.
I bought a used one, too. Sold it shortly thereafter. The Demo Guys
(who are very accomplished) can dazzle you with the setup and task
switching as they make four little table legs with feet on the band
saw and then turn them on the lathe. But, I suspect that, if they
earn enough money, they have some pretty conventional tools at home in
addition to their practice SS's
On Apr 22, 1:08=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3D96067
>
> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
Craigs list is littered with the real ones. I kind of don't hold them
in very high regard. I suppose as a lath they look pretty good but all
the other setups seem to be pretty farcky, xept maybe the bandsaw but
never seen it up close.
Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
On Apr 22, 5:03=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/22/2010 3:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>
> > Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3D96067
>
> > Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashligh=
t)
>
> Fit and finish has certainly changed in the last ten years. At one time
> every piece of HF machinery of that type was rough as a cob, covered in
> cosmoline, and you'd better be handy with a file and/or machining parts
> that were supposed to mate ... basically it was DIY "fit and finish".
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
I have seen where they didn't even bother knocking all of the dross
off a casting and paint right over it. And that farking cosmoline of
which thou speaketh is the most foul-smelling tenacious shit on the
planet. And then there's their rubber...we have discussed that
before...... oh.. and their cardboard. What *is* that smell? Panda
piss?
Robatoy wrote:
> On Apr 22, 5:03 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 4/22/2010 3:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>>
>>> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>>> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
>> Fit and finish has certainly changed in the last ten years. At one time
>> every piece of HF machinery of that type was rough as a cob, covered in
>> cosmoline, and you'd better be handy with a file and/or machining parts
>> that were supposed to mate ... basically it was DIY "fit and finish".
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 4/15/2010
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> I have seen where they didn't even bother knocking all of the dross
> off a casting and paint right over it. And that farking cosmoline of
> which thou speaketh is the most foul-smelling tenacious shit on the
> planet. And then there's their rubber...we have discussed that
> before...... oh.. and their cardboard. What *is* that smell? Panda
> piss?
I bought one of their mallets---what is it with their rubber???
It's been 2 years and it's no longer as strong as it was at first...
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 1:08 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>>
>> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
>
> Craigs list is littered with the real ones. I kind of don't hold them
> in very high regard. I suppose as a lath they look pretty good but all
> the other setups seem to be pretty farcky, xept maybe the bandsaw but
> never seen it up close.
>
> Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
Back years ago anyway, they were quite adequate for the hobbiest-type
individual imo.
My uncle used one for his cabinet/flooring shop for several years when
first getting started after the war and it served the purpose...I used
it some as a kid and other than the hassle of setup and that it isn't
large tables, they were serviceable.
--
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 1:08 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>
> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
Craigs list is littered with the real ones. I kind of don't hold them
in very high regard. I suppose as a lath they look pretty good but all
the other setups seem to be pretty farcky, xept maybe the bandsaw but
never seen it up close.
Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
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I bought a used one about 18 years ago because I always wanted one when I
was a kid. I discovered that the lathe was too low and I got a back ache
using it. The table saw, when properly set up, was too high and any kick
back was liable to hit me directly over the heart. I used it as a drill
press for a long time, but now I'm looking to unload it. Portland, OR area
if anyone is interested.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/22/2010 3:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>>
>> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
>
> Fit and finish has certainly changed in the last ten years. At one time
> every piece of HF machinery of that type was rough as a cob, covered in
> cosmoline, and you'd better be handy with a file and/or machining parts
> that were supposed to mate ... basically it was DIY "fit and finish".
But the machinery you're talking about was going for under $1K. This thing
is $2,500.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eb60fd0f-e259-41e9-a94b-d9fd6ee3bbe3@g23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 22, 5:03 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/22/2010 3:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>
> > Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>
> > Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free
> > flashlight)
>
> Fit and finish has certainly changed in the last ten years. At one time
> every piece of HF machinery of that type was rough as a cob, covered in
> cosmoline, and you'd better be handy with a file and/or machining parts
> that were supposed to mate ... basically it was DIY "fit and finish".
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
I have seen where they didn't even bother knocking all of the dross
off a casting and paint right over it. And that farking cosmoline of
which thou speaketh is the most foul-smelling tenacious shit on the
planet. And then there's their rubber...we have discussed that
before...... oh.. and their cardboard. What *is* that smell? Panda
piss?
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CatPee Glue (TM)!
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> On Apr 22, 1:08 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>>
>> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
>
> Craigs list is littered with the real ones. I kind of don't hold them
> in very high regard. I suppose as a lath they look pretty good but all
> the other setups seem to be pretty farcky, xept maybe the bandsaw but
> never seen it up close.
>
> Does anybody here like shopsmiths?
I have one. Got it for pulling out some tree stumps with my back hoe.He
hardly ever used it. I updated the table since it was the older one. Used it
for sometime until I got tired of the table saw setup and bought a Jet
cabinet saw off ebay for 400.00 that was used twice and 10 miles from the
house. I still use the Shopsmith for odd things, vertical boring, concealed
hinge boring, 10" sanding disk is handy, lathe is handy too. I have most of
the other stand alone tools so it's only used for odd setups. When I first
started with woodworking it was the only thing I had and I thought it was
the cats meow...
--
You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK !
Mandriva 2010 using KDE 4.3
Website: www.rentmyhusband.biz
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I have one. Got it for pulling out some tree stumps with my back hoe.
>
> When I first read that I thought damn these things are versitile...
> pulling out stumps!
hahaha It kinda looks like that, thanks to my writing style....
--
You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK !
Mandriva 2010 using KDE 4.3
Website: www.rentmyhusband.biz
On 4/22/2010 3:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> Well, shut my mouth! I didn't know about this doozie.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96067
>
> Only $2500 (less $500 with standard 20% off coupon and a free flashlight)
Fit and finish has certainly changed in the last ten years. At one time
every piece of HF machinery of that type was rough as a cob, covered in
cosmoline, and you'd better be handy with a file and/or machining parts
that were supposed to mate ... basically it was DIY "fit and finish".
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)