Rr

"R.H."

14/07/2005 8:51 AM

What is it? LXX

This week's set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 31 replies

JM

"John Martin"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 1:27 PM



R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

403. clapboard marker

Gg

Gunner

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

16/07/2005 11:34 PM

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:48:51 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ron DeBlock wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:03:33 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>>
>>>"Jim Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>R.H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below,
>>>
>>>if
>>>
>>>>>anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://400scd.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>Automotive solar trickle charger
>>>
>>>Yes, it keeps the battery charged if the car is not used for a long period
>>>of time.
>>
>>
>> That assumes that the power outlet (cigar lighter plug) is not switched
>> with the key. On most of the cars I've owned, the charger would be
>> useless as configured from the factory - it would need to be wired to an
>> unswitched circuit. Just something to consider if you plan to use one.
>>
>
>Huh? I've never had a car where the cigarette
>lighter(s) turned off with the key. And certainly
>the power outlet on my pickup doesn't turn off
>with the key.

Ive seen a couple..but the majority were hot full time. The ones that
werent..were, within 30 minutes of me finding out they were switched.

Gunner

"Considering the events of recent years,
the world has a long way to go to regain
its credibility and reputation with the US."
unknown

mI

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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 12:04 PM

R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

#400: solar cell
#401: clamp. To close bottles?
#402: revolutions counter (_early_ model)
#403: guess: for woodworking. To scrap ornamental grooves into table
legs etc. If not for wood, then for plaster.
404: ??? At least, the needles are adjustable. Something similar is used
for taking off contours. Or for combing hemp.
405: ??? handle with a magnet. No clue what for.


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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 11:56 PM

R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:

> 404.
unsolved

There is one thing that is a bit confusing: The handle. If it would be
something like a hammer, the disk at the end would not be very pleasing
to one's hand. Furthermore, it seems that the handle is gripped at the
upper end, judging from the (more) polished look.

Stonemasons do have a hammer that resembles this one a bit. It is called
Charrier-iron (from the french) and is used for roughening a surface.

Any useful hints, beside "yes" or "no"? :-)


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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

17/07/2005 11:54 AM

Mike Dworetsky <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe a (wood?) handle fits around the metal shaft and is missing in this
> example.

This makes sense.
Sometimes the easy answers are the hardest to find.


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"Peter DiVergilio"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 3:45 PM

405 is a valve spring keeper lock insertion tool

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 11:09 PM


> There is one thing that is a bit confusing: The handle. If it would be
> something like a hammer, the disk at the end would not be very pleasing
> to one's hand. Furthermore, it seems that the handle is gripped at the
> upper end, judging from the (more) polished look.

> Stonemasons do have a hammer that resembles this one a bit. It is called
> Charrier-iron (from the french) and is used for roughening a surface.

Correct, it's a stone dressing tool, called a Crandall, though I'm not sure
why it has the unusual handle.


Rob

Je

JohnM

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 10:28 AM

R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

Cheese grater.

Clip for holding something.

Chastity doorknob- allows one to see how many times the door has been
opened since last night.. not a big seller..

Beard comb.

One of the toys from "Baby's First S&M Set".

Magnetic handle.

la

"lionslair at consolidated dot net" <"lionslair at consolidated dot net">

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

16/07/2005 10:42 PM

Gunner wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:48:51 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Ron DeBlock wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:03:33 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Jim Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>R.H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below,
>>>>
>>>>if
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://400scd.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>Automotive solar trickle charger
>>>>
>>>>Yes, it keeps the battery charged if the car is not used for a long period
>>>>of time.
>>>
>>>
>>>That assumes that the power outlet (cigar lighter plug) is not switched
>>>with the key. On most of the cars I've owned, the charger would be
>>>useless as configured from the factory - it would need to be wired to an
>>>unswitched circuit. Just something to consider if you plan to use one.
>>>
>>
>>Huh? I've never had a car where the cigarette
>>lighter(s) turned off with the key. And certainly
>>the power outlet on my pickup doesn't turn off
>>with the key.
>
>
> Ive seen a couple..but the majority were hot full time. The ones that
> werent..were, within 30 minutes of me finding out they were switched.
>
> Gunner
>
> "Considering the events of recent years,
> the world has a long way to go to regain
> its credibility and reputation with the US."
> unknown
I used to have a small solar cell battery charger. It was an early model type
and didn't work all that great. I had a battery killer - an early computer
type New Yorker. The Diehard would die over a two day trip if left in the
parking lot at the airport. I think the real issue was the '12V' CMOS
CPU that needed 12 volts or more for a regulator. It wouldn't turn on so
the motor didn't. Just a little float up and it would work just fine.

Martin

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"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 11:03 PM


"Jim Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R.H. wrote:
> > Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below,
if
> > anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
> >
> > http://400scd.blogspot.com/
>
> Automotive solar trickle charger


Yes, it keeps the battery charged if the car is not used for a long period
of time.


Rob


GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

16/07/2005 7:48 PM

Ron DeBlock wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:03:33 +0000, R.H. wrote:
>
>>"Jim Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>R.H. wrote:
>>>
>>>>Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below,
>>
>>if
>>
>>>>anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>>>>
>>>>http://400scd.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>Automotive solar trickle charger
>>
>>Yes, it keeps the battery charged if the car is not used for a long period
>>of time.
>
>
> That assumes that the power outlet (cigar lighter plug) is not switched
> with the key. On most of the cars I've owned, the charger would be
> useless as configured from the factory - it would need to be wired to an
> unswitched circuit. Just something to consider if you plan to use one.
>

Huh? I've never had a car where the cigarette
lighter(s) turned off with the key. And certainly
the power outlet on my pickup doesn't turn off
with the key.

rM

[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 11:57 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>This week's set has just been posted:
>

400. Solar panel with rifle reflected in it

401. Chalk holder

402. Soil hygrometer

403. Concrete edger

404. Tatooing instrument

405. Tack puller


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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 11:40 PM

"R.H." <[email protected]> writes:
>This week's set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
>
>

#403 is a stanley clapboard marker. Used to mark the
ends of clapboards where they butt against the corner
boards.

MB

"Mungo Bulge"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

18/07/2005 4:30 PM

What do you mean "used to be ", my car radio can be turned on without
a key in the ignition, it's a Ford Focus. Push the volume control and
the radio plays for 1 hour.

"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Ron DeBlock wrote:
| > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:48:51 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
| >
--- snip ---
| I wondered that myself and thought switched
| lighter sockets are probably a European feature.
| Heck, radios used to be non switched too.

rM

[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

17/07/2005 9:46 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
George E. Cawthon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Huh? I've never had a car where the cigarette
>lighter(s) turned off with the key. And certainly
>the power outlet on my pickup doesn't turn off
>with the key.

Domestic cars generally have the lighter socket always live. Japanese
cars generally have it live only in ACC or ON. I don't know why this
is.

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result in a fully-depreciated one.

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kodiakman

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 6:36 AM

"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in news:ZHpBe.7709$B52.1687
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

#401 - Ice skate blade "sharpener"

Hf

"Hank"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

20/07/2005 6:47 PM

It's a solar trickle charger. The one I saw was a VW accessory.


Hank

> > http://400scd.blogspot.com/
>
> Nobody's yet mentioned the four suction cups in the corners - they
> stick it to the inside of the windshield. :-)
>
> Cheers!
> Rich
>

CM

"C & M"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 9:40 AM

400: Solar cell
401: Clamp (unknown type - probably a magnet retained in the jaws)
402: Tachometer for something slow moving - the tip appears to be applied
to the center of a shaft which drives the worm gear and turns the indicator
dial)
403: ??
404: Groover - I'm thinking on concrete but this is too narrow for that
kind of work.
405: Nail holder for starting nails

"Nick Müller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1gzotp8.4n09i1hp0l86N%[email protected]...
> R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> #400: solar cell
> #401: clamp. To close bottles?
> #402: revolutions counter (_early_ model)
> #403: guess: for woodworking. To scrap ornamental grooves into table
> legs etc. If not for wood, then for plaster.
> 404: ??? At least, the needles are adjustable. Something similar is used
> for taking off contours. Or for combing hemp.
> 405: ??? handle with a magnet. No clue what for.
>
>
> Nick
> --
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> <http://www.motor-manufaktur.de>
> Ellwe 2FB * VTM 87 * DLM-S3a * cubic
> more to come ...

dD

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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 5:44 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>This week's set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

O.K. -- Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking again:

400) It looks like silicon solar cells -- probably part of an array, or
destined to become part of an array. (Probably the latter, as
it does not appear to have been covered with glass yet.

401) Holder for sandpaper for sanding into a groove? The strip of
sandpaper wraps around the cylinder (grit side in), and then
folds back over the lips.

402) A very old example of a mechanical tachometer. The point is
pressed into a center hole, The user's thumb feels (and counts
the full rotations of the worm wheel, and the pointer (which is
set to zero (actually 100) before the start) indicates how many
rotations of the input spindle should be added to the full
rotations of the worm wheel (each of which represent 100
rotations of the input spindle). You operate it for a known
time (perhaps 60 seconds), and then calculate RPM from the
total number of turns during that period.

I've never seen one of these with exposed gears before, most are
totally enclosed.

403) Perhaps for decorative grooving of planks?

404) Hmm ... a bit of possible confusion here.

a) It might be some form of weld scale chipping hammer.

b) It might be a contour gauge. If so, I would expect the
pieces in the "head" to be equal in length, so you could
get a positive or negative contour from the single tool

I would also expect there to be a way to loosen and
clamp the stack down at the other end of the handle, and
I don't seem to see that.

c) Or -- it might be a form of meat tenderizer.

405) Magnet for holding a nail as you are starting it -- without

putting your fingers at risk of being hammered. The nail goes
into the 'V' on the end, and is held by the two steel layers
(bread), with the magnetic field being provided by the brown
layer as the meat in the sandwich.

Now -- to see what others have said.

Enjoy,
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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 7:05 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
>
>
>
>
>400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below, if
>anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>
>http://400scd.blogspot.com/

O.K. This makes it clear. It is intended for maintaining the
charge in an automobile's battery -- even if you don't start it often
enough to properly maintain the charge.

I could actually use one of those. :-)


>404.

Still no idea about this one -- assuming that all of my guesses
were wrong.

Enjoy,
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"Mike Dworetsky"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

17/07/2005 9:29 AM

"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

400. Computer chip on a credit card.
403. Operator's floor indicator for old Empire State Bldg elevators?


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"Mike Dworetsky"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

17/07/2005 9:37 AM

"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > There is one thing that is a bit confusing: The handle. If it would be
> > something like a hammer, the disk at the end would not be very pleasing
> > to one's hand. Furthermore, it seems that the handle is gripped at the
> > upper end, judging from the (more) polished look.
>
> > Stonemasons do have a hammer that resembles this one a bit. It is called
> > Charrier-iron (from the french) and is used for roughening a surface.
>
> Correct, it's a stone dressing tool, called a Crandall, though I'm not
sure
> why it has the unusual handle.

Maybe a (wood?) handle fits around the metal shaft and is missing in this
example.

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TomH

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

14/07/2005 2:17 PM

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:51:05 GMT, "R.H."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This week's set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

From rec.woodworking


400. Stripey Pajamas
401. Victorian Nose Hair Trimmer
402. Comb from the "George Costanza Collection"
403. Cake Decorator (vintage prototype)
405. Left-handed Magnetic Nipple Wrench



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in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 12:30 PM

R.H. wrote:
> Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
>
>
>
>
> 400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below, if
> anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>
> http://400scd.blogspot.com/

Automotive solar trickle charger



> 401. Hockey skate sharpener
>
> 402. Mechanical tachometer
>
> 403. Clapboard marker
>
> 404.
>
> 405. Magnetic nail holder
>
> A new photo and a link can be seen on the answer page:
>
> http://pzphotosan73t.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 7:21 PM

Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:




400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below, if
anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:

http://400scd.blogspot.com/


401. Hockey skate sharpener

402. Mechanical tachometer

403. Clapboard marker

404.

405. Magnetic nail holder

A new photo and a link can be seen on the answer page:

http://pzphotosan73t.blogspot.com/


Rob

RD

Ron DeBlock

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

15/07/2005 12:23 AM

Reading in rec.crafts.metalworking.

400. closeup of a photovoltaic (solar) cell

401. ice skate sharpener - run the blade along the cylindrical abrasive,
and it leaves sharp edges on the blade. The "ears" on the clip part serve
as a guide.

402. tachometer. The shaft is badly corroded. When the point is held
against the axis of spinning object, the shaft turns, which turns the
wheel. Run it for a certain time, or until a certain number is reached,
and the RPMs can be calculated.

403. not sure - looks like it's for making parallel grooves in something.

404. not sure, but it looks like a big, nasty version of a comb used for
removing knotted fur on a long-hair cat or dog

405. The notched end is magnetic. It holds nails so you can start them
without pounding your thumb.

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Ron DeBlock

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

16/07/2005 4:44 PM

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:03:33 +0000, R.H. wrote:
> "Jim Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> R.H. wrote:
>> > Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below,
> if
>> > anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>> >
>> > http://400scd.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Automotive solar trickle charger
> Yes, it keeps the battery charged if the car is not used for a long period
> of time.

That assumes that the power outlet (cigar lighter plug) is not switched
with the key. On most of the cars I've owned, the charger would be
useless as configured from the factory - it would need to be wired to an
unswitched circuit. Just something to consider if you plan to use one.

--
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If God had meant for Man to see the sunrise,
He would have scheduled it later in the day.

RD

Ron DeBlock

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

18/07/2005 1:21 AM

On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:48:51 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
> Huh? I've never had a car where the cigarette
> lighter(s) turned off with the key. And certainly
> the power outlet on my pickup doesn't turn off
> with the key.

Probably an American car feature. I bought my first American vehicle two
years ago, it has non-switched lighter sockets. For the prior 20 odd
years, I owned only European and Japanese vehicles, they all had/have
switched lighter sockets. I don't recall if my parents' American cars had
switched lighters - I know some didn't have lighter sockets at all.

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Rich Grise

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

20/07/2005 6:23 PM

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:21:49 +0000, R.H. wrote:
> Five of the six have been answered correctly so far:
> 400. Solar cells, I put a few more photos of this one on the page below, if
> anyone would like to guess the purpose of this device:
>
> http://400scd.blogspot.com/

Nobody's yet mentioned the four suction cups in the corners - they
stick it to the inside of the windshield. :-)

Cheers!
Rich

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

18/07/2005 4:22 AM

Ron DeBlock wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:48:51 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
>
>>Huh? I've never had a car where the cigarette
>>lighter(s) turned off with the key. And certainly
>>the power outlet on my pickup doesn't turn off
>>with the key.
>
>
> Probably an American car feature. I bought my first American vehicle two
> years ago, it has non-switched lighter sockets. For the prior 20 odd
> years, I owned only European and Japanese vehicles, they all had/have
> switched lighter sockets. I don't recall if my parents' American cars had
> switched lighters - I know some didn't have lighter sockets at all.
>

I wondered that myself and thought switched
lighter sockets are probably a European feature.
Heck, radios used to be non switched too.

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "R.H." on 14/07/2005 8:51 AM

18/07/2005 11:55 PM

Mungo Bulge wrote:
> What do you mean "used to be ", my car radio can be turned on without
> a key in the ignition, it's a Ford Focus. Push the volume control and
> the radio plays for 1 hour.
>
> "George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> | Ron DeBlock wrote:
> | > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:48:51 +0000, George E. Cawthon wrote:
> | >
> --- snip ---
> | I wondered that myself and thought switched
> | lighter sockets are probably a European feature.
> | Heck, radios used to be non switched too.
>
>
Must be one of Ford's better ideas! The timer in
the radio probably increased the cost of the
radio by $50.


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