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"johngood_____"

17/08/2007 11:16 AM

cheaper oil than linseed outdoor furniture

whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
old
garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt a
thin
wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
thanks for advice



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Dd

"Derek"

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 8:38 PM


"whit3rd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Aug 17, 4:16 am, "johngood_____" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of
>> some
>> old
>> garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil,
>
> Actually, most wood-finish applications are not for simple linseed oil
> (flax oil),
> but rather for boiled linseed oil (which is a polymerizing finish,
> guaranteed
> to turn solid). If the wood looks 'dry' and weathered, you might
> first
> wire-brush to remove degraded fibers, then seal with boiled linseed
> oil (BLO)
> and follow up next day with a transparent stain (exterior stain, of
> course).
>
> BLO makes a relatively tough film, but it isn't hard and doesn't take
> sunlight well. It does, IMHO, really improve the appearance of the
> wood.

You get a better finish with BLO if you mix it 50/50 with natural turpentine
it does harden off much better than neat BLO and doesnt remain tacky for
very long.Its been the standard finish for gunstocks and oil finished
furniture and usually applied with a lint free cloth like a polish. There is
also another oil with similar properties called Tung oil though I've never
tried it myself.
Derek

Cc

"Cat(h)"

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 5:40 AM

On Aug 17, 12:16 pm, "johngood_____" <[email protected]> wrote:
> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
> old
> garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldn=
t a
> thin
> wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
> thanks for advice

I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?

Cat(h)

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whit3rd

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 12:11 PM

On Aug 17, 4:16 am, "johngood_____" <[email protected]> wrote:
> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
> old
> garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil,

Actually, most wood-finish applications are not for simple linseed oil
(flax oil),
but rather for boiled linseed oil (which is a polymerizing finish,
guaranteed
to turn solid). If the wood looks 'dry' and weathered, you might
first
wire-brush to remove degraded fibers, then seal with boiled linseed
oil (BLO)
and follow up next day with a transparent stain (exterior stain, of
course).

BLO makes a relatively tough film, but it isn't hard and doesn't take
sunlight well. It does, IMHO, really improve the appearance of the
wood.

Mm

Martin

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 5:43 PM

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:17:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>O
>>I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
>>for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
>>generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
>>chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
>>probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?
>>
>>Cat(h)
>>
>Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?

Hint: =80 is the character for the EUR symbol. Maybe be you are using the wrong
character set for a UK group?
--

Martin

JJ

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 1:33 PM

Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 11:16am (EDT+4) [email protected] (johngood_____) doth
query:
whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of
some old
garden tables? =A0 Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so
wouldnt a
thin wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
thanks for advice

Cheapest? Store inside when you're not using them.

I've tried new vegetable cooking oils as inside finishes; they
work. Don't recall if I tried sunflower oil. Don't know how they'd do
outside. Try it.

No, they don't turn rancid. Only the used oil turns rancid. I
double checked with a food scientist at a local college many years back.
As I type, I'm about 3' from a wooden rocker I made, probably 7-8 or
more years ago, cooking oil finish - holding up fine, looks good, no
smell.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

c

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 3:17 PM

O
>I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
>for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
>generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
>chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
>probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?
>
>Cat(h)
>
Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?

Mm

Martin

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

18/08/2007 11:16 AM

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:04:16 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"johngood_____" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
>> old
>> garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt
>> a thin
>> wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
>> thanks for advice
>
>What is the furniture worth? Saving 50¢ and putting furniture at risk is
>just stupid. Your body excretes oils so just rub your ass on the tables
>every day until you get the desired patina. .
>

or splinters?
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Martin

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 11:53 AM

johngood_____ wrote:
> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces
> of some old
> garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so
> wouldnt a thin
> wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
> thanks for advice

It doesn't dry, does it? If you don't care about that just use your
used motor oil.

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"Kase"

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 4:38 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> O
>>I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
>>for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
>>generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
>>chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
>>probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?
>>
>>Cat(h)
>>
> Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?

Clearly your newsreader messed up, because I saw the pound sign where you
have got '=80'

And why so aggressive, when Cat has done nothing wrong, and isn't even at
fault for your newsreader?

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

18/08/2007 3:04 AM


"johngood_____" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of some
> old
> garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil, so wouldnt
> a thin
> wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be just as good?
> thanks for advice

What is the furniture worth? Saving 50¢ and putting furniture at risk is
just stupid. Your body excretes oils so just rub your ass on the tables
every day until you get the desired patina. .

MF

"Michael Faurot"

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 11:21 AM

johngood_____ <[email protected]> wrote:

> whats the cheapest way to preserve the topmost horizontal surfaces of
> some old garden tables? Things offered like linseed oil are just oil,
> so wouldnt a thin wipe of a much cheaper oil like sunflower oil be
> just as good? thanks for advice

Sunflower oil and other cooking type oils don't necessarily dry as
would boiled linseed oil (BLO). BLO has additional things in it,
besides just the oil, that allow it to dry/polymerize. While a can of
BLO is probably a little more expensive than a bottle of some type of
cooking oil, it's not that expensive.

You mention this finish is for some "old garden tables". If that
means these things will be outdoors, a finish like BLO alone is
probably not going to be enough to fully protect the piece from
water and sunlight. Realistically, if you want to protect/preserve
the piece(s) you should use a finish that is designed for outdoor
use and will help shed water and protect it from the UV rays of the
sun.

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Mm

Martin

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 5:26 PM

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:17:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>O
>>I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
>>for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
>>generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
>>chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
>>probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?
>>
>>Cat(h)
>>
>Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?

and your spelling? :-)
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Martin

Mm

Martin

in reply to "johngood_____" on 17/08/2007 11:16 AM

17/08/2007 5:47 PM

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:38:22 +0100, "Kase" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> O
>>>I bought 2x 500ml bottles of linseed oil from a local hardware store
>>>for about =802.50 each last spring. Each bottle allows me to treat
>>>generously my whole patio set - 1x1m diametre circular table and 4
>>>chairs. I treated them twice this year, for just =805.00, and that's
>>>probably it for the year. Is that really *so* expensive?
>>>
>>>Cat(h)
>>>
>> Is there something wrong with your arithmatic?
>
>Clearly your newsreader messed up, because I saw the pound sign where you
>have got '=80'

LOL I saw Euro.
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Martin


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