Rr

"Ron"

23/02/2006 9:36 PM

Tearout drilling shell pin holes with a shelving jig

I'm using a shelving jig, like the one in the link below, to drill holes for
some adjustable shelves.
However, I'm getting some tearout on almost all the holes.

I'm using solid WOak this time, but, I've had similar issues in the past
drilling these into ROak ply.

The self-centering bit contains a 1/4" spur point bit.

Has anyone else experienced this?
If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.

Many ThankX,
Ron

The jig:
http://images.rockler.com/rockler/images/32991b-lg.jpg


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Mb

"MB"

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 2:55 PM


Ron wrote:
> If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.

I use the a 1/4 brad point bit from lee valley and have perfectly clean
holes in birch plywood. The bit has the spurs as described above and
they are sharp as a razor.

BTW, I just use a piece of pegboard as my jig instead of the plexiglass
Rockler rig.

Mitch

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 4:31 PM

Ron (in [email protected]) said:

||| Has anyone else experienced this?
||| If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.
||
|| 1/4" spiral upcut carbide bit in a plunge router (first choice);
|| and 1/4" carbide lipped brad point bit in a DP (second choice)
|
| I'll try swapping the bit in the jig with a new brad point bit I
| have. Just may need to find an extra hand first, as it's spring
| loaded. ;)
|
| I'll try some tape as well..

Ron...

Brad points come in flavors and _lipped_ brad point bits are noticably
better at preventing tear out because the sharp "lip" slices the wood
fibers at the circumference of the hole before the stock-removing
portion even touches the wood. The result is a particularly
clean-edged hole.

See
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=42352&cat=1,180,42240
for a look at my favorites. I've been using a set of these for about
two years and think they're great.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

23/02/2006 8:59 PM

Ron (in [email protected]) said:

| I'm using a shelving jig, like the one in the link below, to drill
| holes for some adjustable shelves.
| However, I'm getting some tearout on almost all the holes.

| Has anyone else experienced this?
| If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.

1/4" spiral upcut carbide bit in a plunge router (first choice); and
1/4" carbide lipped brad point bit in a DP (second choice)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

Rr

"Ron"

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 5:11 PM


> | Has anyone else experienced this?
> | If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.
>
> 1/4" spiral upcut carbide bit in a plunge router (first choice); and
> 1/4" carbide lipped brad point bit in a DP (second choice)

I'll try swapping the bit in the jig with a new brad point bit I have.
Just may need to find an extra hand first, as it's spring loaded. ;)

I'll try some tape as well..

ThankX All,
Ron



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chuck

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 2:48 AM

Drill the holes through masking tape stuck to the wood?

Ron wrote:
> I'm using a shelving jig, like the one in the link below, to drill holes for
> some adjustable shelves.
> However, I'm getting some tearout on almost all the holes.
>
> I'm using solid WOak this time, but, I've had similar issues in the past
> drilling these into ROak ply.
>
> The self-centering bit contains a 1/4" spur point bit.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.
>
> Many ThankX,
> Ron
>
> The jig:
> http://images.rockler.com/rockler/images/32991b-lg.jpg
>
>

BH

Brian Henderson

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 6:32 PM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:36:57 -0500, "Ron" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm using a shelving jig, like the one in the link below, to drill holes for
>some adjustable shelves.
>However, I'm getting some tearout on almost all the holes.

Have you checked to see if the bit is sharp? I can pretty much
guarantee that it's not.

Rr

"Ron"

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 5:03 PM


> >I'm using a shelving jig, like the one in the link below, to drill holes
for
> >some adjustable shelves.
> >However, I'm getting some tearout on almost all the holes.
>
> Have you checked to see if the bit is sharp? I can pretty much
> guarantee that it's not.

Brand new.

Just bought the 1/4" bit since I purchased a 5mm one my mistake a while ago,
but, got the same results with it.

JH

Juergen Hannappel

in reply to "Ron" on 23/02/2006 9:36 PM

24/02/2006 9:27 AM

"Ron" <[email protected]> writes:

> I'm using a shelving jig, like the one in the link below, to drill holes for
> some adjustable shelves.
> However, I'm getting some tearout on almost all the holes.

[...]

> The self-centering bit contains a 1/4" spur point bit.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> If so, how have you reduced or eliminated it.

With the spur point bits I always get some tearout. I get better
results with spiral bits which are designed for drilling steel, and
the best results with real auger bits, Jennings pattern or the more
common kind with one cutter only.
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
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