JT

Jasper Tiler

02/04/2009 8:48 PM

How to craft an wooden biplane?

I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
but I don't know how to build such a plane.

How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?


This topic has 20 replies

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 1:15 AM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Doug Winterburn" wrote:
>
>> Yup, I have a few hanging from the ceiling, and a half dozen unopened on
>> the shelf for my bucket list.
>
> Ever do any power, either free flight or U-Control?

Doh, man! Servo weights are measured in grams or fractional ounces these
days. Free flight is what happens when the transmitter battery dies. I
didn't take them seriously at first, but the flat foam core things they sell
now fly extremely well. It's worth a look if you haven't peeked since, oh,
1940.

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

02/04/2009 9:14 PM

Jasper Tiler wrote:
> I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
> but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>
> How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?

http://www.guillow.com/

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

04/04/2009 6:18 PM

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:40:31 -0800, WD wrote:

> These are "toys" compare with the real thing that flies. Yes, it brings
> back memories, when I was a licensed A&P mechanic during my early
> career.

Apparently you did not read the multiple posts that pointed out this was
a spammer trolling for responses.

If you must respond please, please, please remove the "scorekeeping"
website. In this case it was de.alt.augenoptik.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 5:41 PM

Jasper Tiler wrote:
> I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
> but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>
> How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?

Build it like this

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Aero1.jpg

or, if you think you can get by with only 2 wings try

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/Aero2.jpg

:)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

c

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

04/04/2009 12:25 AM

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:03:00 -0400, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Jasper Tiler wrote:
>> I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
>> but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>>
>> How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?
>
>
>Contact these folks: <http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/>


Fisher Flying Products has good wooden biplane kits - reasonable too.
Now CANADIAN company north of Toronto.

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

04/04/2009 1:38 AM

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:48:46 -0700 (PDT), Jasper Tiler
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
>but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>
>How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/kits/starduster.html

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

Ww

WD

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

05/04/2009 1:40 AM

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:21:13 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Doug Winterburn" wrote:
>
>> http://www.guillow.com/
>
>Guillow, a name from my youth.
>
>You bring back a lot of memories Doug.
>
>BTW, the Spad Pursuit was a favortite of mine.
>
>Lew

These are "toys" compare with the real thing that flies. Yes, it brings back
memories, when I was a licensed A&P mechanic during my early career. I first got
into woodworking making wings' ribs and spars. These are made from Spruce. The
wings and fuselage skins were linen finished with dope. The glue we used was
Urea Formaldehyde. I believed we used Delta's contractors saw and 6" jointer and
no planer. I have worked on Stinson, Waco, British"s Auster, Tiger Moth and not
forgetting Cessnar140, 150, including Pipers Club, DC-3 and many more which I
have long forgotten. I had overhauled, Continental, Lycoming, Pratt & Whitney,
Wright, Royce Royces, Bristol, Dehavilland inline and radial engine. I even have
the pleasure of working on the French's Leonies engine. My end my career in B747
and DC-10 many years ago. I still have my CAB's power plants handbook but
misplaced my airplane handbook, which spelled out detail requirement in repaired
steel tubing, Spruce wood and others requirement.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 11:21 AM

Sheesh! The troll got quite a few responses from this one.

If you must respond, remove the extraneous score keeping newsgroup. As I
just did.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

ML

Maxwell Lol

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

05/04/2009 10:58 AM


PLEASE stop crossposting to the troll's newsgroup.

You are only encouraging more and more SPAM.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 6:14 AM

"Doug Winterburn" wrote:

> About 5 decades or so ago, I did the U-control thing. Kept me
> building
> replacements :-(

Same kind of time frame (early 50's)

U-Control was combat time.

Straight pins in the leading edge of the wing, a crepe paper stringer
connected to the tail, and have at it.

Jimmy Walker had a couple of balsa wood slab side fuselage planes you
could build in a couple of days.

Wipe out on Sunday, stop at hobby shop on way home and buy a plane,
show up Wednesday night ready to fly.

Had a Fox .35 which was a screamer.

Good combat engine.

Free flight was strictly 1/2 A stuff.

Built several "Sniffer" models and trashed a few along the way.

Baby Spitfire 045 was a great free flight engine.

Drug store asked me why I needed salt peter.

Had to explain it was for fuses to destabilize the plane a bring it
down.

Wonder what would happen if you tried that today?

When I quit, must have had 15-18 engines.

>Now, I just try to make 'em pretty and hang 'em up for
> display.
>
> It's amazing how they double or triple in weight by adding paint!

Dope is heavy, especially if on fabric rather than paper.

Sealer helps a little.

Lew


sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

04/04/2009 12:12 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:03:00 -0400, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Jasper Tiler wrote:
>>> I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
>>> but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>>>
>>> How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?
>>
>>
>>Contact these folks: <http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/>
>
>
>Fisher Flying Products has good wooden biplane kits - reasonable too.
>Now CANADIAN company north of Toronto.

DFTFT. If you find it impossible to resist responding to troll posts, at least
remove the crosspost to the troll's target group first -- in this case,
de.alt.augenoptik

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

02/04/2009 10:28 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Doug Winterburn" wrote:
>
>> Yup, I have a few hanging from the ceiling, and a half dozen
>> unopened on
>> the shelf for my bucket list.
>
> Ever do any power, either free flight or U-Control?
>
> Lew
>
>

About 5 decades or so ago, I did the U-control thing. Kept me building
replacements :-( Now, I just try to make 'em pretty and hang 'em up for
display.

It's amazing how they double or triple in weight by adding paint!

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 5:55 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Ever do any power, either free flight or U-Control?
>
> Lew

In the '70's I worked for Sullivan Products so I did it all and for cheap.
RC cars too.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 4:21 AM


"Doug Winterburn" wrote:

> http://www.guillow.com/

Guillow, a name from my youth.

You bring back a lot of memories Doug.

BTW, the Spad Pursuit was a favortite of mine.

Lew

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 5:03 PM

Jasper Tiler wrote:
> I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
> but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>
> How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?


Contact these folks: <http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/>

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

02/04/2009 9:34 PM

Doug Winterburn wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Doug Winterburn" wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.guillow.com/
>> Guillow, a name from my youth.
>>
>> You bring back a lot of memories Doug.
>>
>> BTW, the Spad Pursuit was a favortite of mine.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
> Yup, I have a few hanging from the ceiling, and a half dozen unopened on
> the shelf for my bucket list.

One isn't on their list anymore - a 1/77 scale balsa and tissue Columbia
shuttle - 19" length, 13" wingspan. I think I'll build that one next...
maybe.

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 1:51 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Jasper Tiler <[email protected]> wrote:
>I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
>but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>
>How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?

I've seen some in cast iron like the Stanley #130, but no wooden biplanes :)


--
Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

md

mac davis

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 8:17 AM

On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:48:46 -0700 (PDT), Jasper Tiler <[email protected]> wrote:

>I want to create a biplane for a World War 1 show
>but I don't know how to build such a plane.
>
>How can I craft a wooden biplane, that will really fly?

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

03/04/2009 4:53 AM


"Doug Winterburn" wrote:

> Yup, I have a few hanging from the ceiling, and a half dozen
> unopened on
> the shelf for my bucket list.

Ever do any power, either free flight or U-Control?

Lew

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to Jasper Tiler on 02/04/2009 8:48 PM

02/04/2009 9:26 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Doug Winterburn" wrote:
>
>> http://www.guillow.com/
>
> Guillow, a name from my youth.
>
> You bring back a lot of memories Doug.
>
> BTW, the Spad Pursuit was a favortite of mine.
>
> Lew
>
>
Yup, I have a few hanging from the ceiling, and a half dozen unopened on
the shelf for my bucket list.


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