Ll

Len

28/11/2015 3:08 PM

spraying in the shop

I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the temperatures and =
humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of setting up a cardboard ( re=
frigerator boxes) spray booth. I am spraying Hydrocote using an 4 stage Fu=
ji gun. Anybody out there done this without coating all your big tools?


This topic has 8 replies

nn

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

28/11/2015 5:06 PM

On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 5:08:41 PM UTC-6, Len wrote:
> I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the temperatures an=
d humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of setting up a cardboard ( =
refrigerator boxes) spray booth. I am spraying Hydrocote using an 4 stage =
Fuji gun. Anybody out there done this without coating all your big tools?

I have a different take on this type of problem. When I am doing the same =
thing, I use what I think of as a clothesline. For example, I recently add=
ed a contrasting color of crown molding around a kitchen full of cabinets. =
Some pieces were long, a lot were short. The long ones I put across sawhors=
es and sprayed them. I don't like spray pieces laying flat as they are too=
attractive to bugs for an easy landing, settling dust, falling leaves, etc=
. So the long pieces are sprayed and taken back in the house.

The clothesline comes into play when I run the longest piece of rope that I=
can inside the client's garage (or on a porch, etc.). I literally take a =
piece of the same rope and string it somewhere else away from the house so =
I don't have to worry about overspray and drift when spraying. I put brad,=
hook of some sort, even a bent nail in the trims to hang them on the short=
rope in the yard and then spray them. They stay hanging in the protected =
area until they dry.

Remember, the humidity only affects the >drying< or the curing of your fini=
sh, not the application. Mix your finish inside the protected area, walk o=
ut with the gun, start shooting. Remove the air supply from the gun and wa=
lk your sprayed pieces back to the drying area. I do this same thing when =
spraying drawer fronts, cabinet doors, trims, and anything else I can't spr=
ay in place.

I hate spray cabinets, booths, tents, or hoods. Fumes scare me, and I hate=
to deal with overspray, so I always spray outside and make as many trips a=
s needed to handle my materials.

I had the Fuji setup you have and used it for years. It is a great machine=
and certainly served me well for years using the method described above.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

28/11/2015 11:57 PM

Len <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the temperatures
> and humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of setting up a
> cardboard ( refrigerator boxes) spray booth. I am spraying Hydrocote
> using an 4 stage Fuji gun. Anybody out there done this without
> coating all your big tools?
>

Here's a thought... temporary plastic greenhoues:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H27TD66?psc=1

Here's one for around $100.

That should contain any overspray (and concentrate vapors--so take extra
precautions!) so you don't have to cover all your big tools.

If you decide to give this a try, I'd love to hear how it went. (You
could probably actually build one out of plastic sheeting and 2x4s for
around half the price.)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

29/11/2015 9:03 AM

On 11/28/2015 5:08 PM, Len wrote:
> I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the temperatures and humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of setting up a cardboard ( refrigerator boxes) spray booth. I am spraying Hydrocote using an 4 stage Fuji gun. Anybody out there done this without coating all your big tools?

Go for it.

This particular project a couple of years back was an example of doing
just that as the large plaque for a customer needed to be sprayed very
carefully, and expertly, as the finish needed to be approved by the
client before paying ... and an expert in finishing I am certainly not.

Just moved all the machinery against the walls, covered them in plastic
and used the overhead doors rails as a "clothes hanger".

If it hadn't been for Robert's (nailshooter41) expert advice, via
numerous phone calls and emails, in mitigating my lack of expertise in
both choosing, and spraying, the correct product to get the desired
finish, and HVLP's lack of overspray, it would have turned out badly.

In short, had to use the entire shop as a spray booth to get the job
done, but it worked out fine, with no damage to any of the considerable
number of shop tools you can see in some of the photos ... where there's
a need, there's a way.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopPlaque?noredirect=1#

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

29/11/2015 5:55 PM

krw wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2015 23:57:26 GMT, Puckdropper
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Len <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the
>>> temperatures and humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of
>>> setting up a cardboard ( refrigerator boxes) spray booth. I am
>>> spraying Hydrocote using an 4 stage Fuji gun. Anybody out there
>>> done this without coating all your big tools?
>>>
>>
>> Here's a thought... temporary plastic greenhoues:
>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H27TD66?psc=1
>>
>> Here's one for around $100.
>>
>> That should contain any overspray (and concentrate vapors--so take
>> extra precautions!) so you don't have to cover all your big tools.
>>
>> If you decide to give this a try, I'd love to hear how it went. (You
>> could probably actually build one out of plastic sheeting and 2x4s
>> for around half the price.)
>
> The thing that would worry me about the plastic sheeting (or the
> greenhouse, for that matter) is fire. Plastic sheeting burns good and
> when it does, the fumes are toxic.

I would not worry about fire. There is little to no chance of ignition.
Ambient temperature is my bigger concern.

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-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

29/11/2015 5:59 PM

Len wrote:
> I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the
> temperatures and humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of
> setting up a cardboard ( refrigerator boxes) spray booth. I am
> spraying Hydrocote using an 4 stage Fuji gun. Anybody out there done
> this without coating all your big tools?

I spray big things in my garage. Plastic can be your friend to protect your
big tools. I have draped plastic from the ceiling to the floor, enclosing 2
of a 3 bay garage, with great success. My bigger concern for you right now,
is that if you don't have a heated workspace out there, you're getting to
some pretty cold temperatures for most applications.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

01/12/2015 7:54 AM

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 17:06:12 -0800 (PST)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Remember, the humidity only affects the >drying< or the curing of
> your finish, not the application. Mix your finish inside the
> protected area, walk out with the gun, start shooting. Remove the
> air supply from the gun and walk your sprayed pieces back to the
> drying area. I do this same thing when spraying drawer fronts,

but temperature also matters and OP noted that as well as humidity
where they are

some products like warmer temps and say so

hydrocote says not below 55
does this method work at low temperatures or do you do something
different














kk

krw

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

28/11/2015 7:22 PM

On 28 Nov 2015 23:57:26 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>Len <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> I need to spray a lot of small pieces of trim. Given the temperatures
>> and humidity in central Illinois, I was thinking of setting up a
>> cardboard ( refrigerator boxes) spray booth. I am spraying Hydrocote
>> using an 4 stage Fuji gun. Anybody out there done this without
>> coating all your big tools?
>>
>
>Here's a thought... temporary plastic greenhoues:
>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H27TD66?psc=1
>
>Here's one for around $100.
>
>That should contain any overspray (and concentrate vapors--so take extra
>precautions!) so you don't have to cover all your big tools.
>
>If you decide to give this a try, I'd love to hear how it went. (You
>could probably actually build one out of plastic sheeting and 2x4s for
>around half the price.)

The thing that would worry me about the plastic sheeting (or the
greenhouse, for that matter) is fire. Plastic sheeting burns good and
when it does, the fumes are toxic.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Len on 28/11/2015 3:08 PM

01/12/2015 10:03 AM

On 12/1/2015 9:54 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 17:06:12 -0800 (PST)
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Remember, the humidity only affects the >drying< or the curing of
>> your finish, not the application. Mix your finish inside the
>> protected area, walk out with the gun, start shooting. Remove the
>> air supply from the gun and walk your sprayed pieces back to the
>> drying area. I do this same thing when spraying drawer fronts,
>
> but temperature also matters and OP noted that as well as humidity
> where they are
>
> some products like warmer temps and say so
>
> hydrocote says not below 55
> does this method work at low temperatures or do you do something
> different


Now that is an interesting response, the novice picking at the "MASTERS"
comments.


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