This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their very
first batch.
I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
Wayne
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:39:52 GMT, Wayne Green <[email protected]> wrote:
You should be able to get smaller quantity from Woodcraft. Last week I bought 32
once for $12.99 in a local Woodcraft store.
>
>This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their very
>first batch.
>
>I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>
>Wayne
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:17:58 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
How much freight and handling?
$5, $10 or maybe $15?
>Titebond III is $29.99 a gallon from Woodworkers Supply. Woodworker.com.
>Have fun.
>Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their
>very
>> first batch.
>>
>> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>>
>> Wayne
>
Lowes also has it in the 32 oz size
Neal
"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:39:52 GMT, Wayne Green <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You should be able to get smaller quantity from Woodcraft. Last week I bought
32
> once for $12.99 in a local Woodcraft store.
>
> >
> >This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their
very
> >first batch.
> >
> >I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
> >Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
> >I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
> >I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
> >If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
> >Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
> >
> >Wayne
>
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:12:57 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>How does $6.45 sound?
$6.45 look reasonable, but if you add it all up
$29.99+$6.45 = $36.44.
Is It worth it? No!
I used the T3, the last few days, it is not much different from T1, it cures
much slower than T1 and needs longer clamping time. After it dried, I could
clean and REMOVE it with a wet warm moist cloth with light scraping from my
Formica's table top.
I will skip T3 and continue to use Elma's yellow glue, it cost only $14.00 per
gallon at HD.
>"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:17:58 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> How much freight and handling?
>> $5, $10 or maybe $15?
>>
>> >Titebond III is $29.99 a gallon from Woodworkers Supply. Woodworker.com.
>> >Have fun.
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got
>their
>> >very
>> >> first batch.
>> >>
>> >> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>> >> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>> >> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>> >> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>> >> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>> >> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >
>>
>
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:00:44 -0600, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
Oh, I forgot to add.. (long)
If I dunno anything, I will ask, take time to find out. I will test and check,
after that I will come to a conclusion. I will change if you or anyone can prove
that I am wrong.
An example... many people here swear Timberwolf blades are the best and will die
for it. Even the salesperson whom I trust in Woodcraft say so. Nevertheless, I
have bad experiences with it. It is really truly crappy. I did try Lee Valley's
"Viking" blade, I am surprise LV's 3/16" saw better (almost no saw's marked and
very smooth) compare with Timberwolf 1/2" blades which cost almost the same.
Another example, everyone includes woodworking magazines swear that Forrest saw
blades are the best and I do not disagree with it. The blade cost more than
$100! Did you know you could get Oldham's 10x40 combination saw blades for less
than $15?, a 10x50 combination for less than $11! INCLUDING shipping and
handling! Fine Woodworking magazine rate Oldham as very good and cheap.
Initially, I bought one for $51. I discovered Oldham is really very good. I
bought two more at Ebay. Go to Ebay and type "10" carbides saw". Look for Oldham
saw, but this honest gentleman selling it. (sorry, I did not post this earlier
as I don't want everyone rushing to Ebay and jack the price up before I get what
I need. note, the blades may look like being used it's NOT as I found out later
after testing it).
I doubt that paying more mean better! Elma glue cost less than Titebond and they
are still the same.
This is my honest views and do respect your disagreement if any. :-).
>On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:12:57 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>How does $6.45 sound?
>
>$6.45 look reasonable, but if you add it all up
>
>$29.99+$6.45 = $36.44.
>Is It worth it? No!
>
>I used the T3, the last few days, it is not much different from T1, it cures
>much slower than T1 and needs longer clamping time. After it dried, I could
>clean and REMOVE it with a wet warm moist cloth with light scraping from my
>Formica's table top.
>
>I will skip T3 and continue to use Elma's yellow glue, it cost only $14.00 per
>gallon at HD.
>
>
>>"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:17:58 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> How much freight and handling?
>>> $5, $10 or maybe $15?
>>>
>>> >Titebond III is $29.99 a gallon from Woodworkers Supply. Woodworker.com.
>>> >Have fun.
>>> >Joe
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >news:[email protected]...
>>> >>
>>> >> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got
>>their
>>> >very
>>> >> first batch.
>>> >>
>>> >> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>>> >> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>>> >> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>>> >> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>>> >> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>>> >> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>>> >>
>>> >> Wayne
>>> >
>>>
>>
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:26:45 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
For fifteen bucks or less and definately last more two years plus a FREE
re-grinding coupon, it's more than worth it.
Did you see the TWC's demonstration in woodworking shows? Go and see it and
decide for yourself! if you can afford to spend more than me and getting the
same results, that your RIGHT!
No offence please. :-)
>It will be interesting to see how many more times the Cheapo blades will
>have to be resharpened than the Forrest. This is part of what you are
>paying for, a product that goes the distance, works as good in 5 years as it
>did new. In the end, for those that to a lot of sawing I am sure the
>Forrest will be cheaper.
>
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:05:39 -0400, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
Ah yes, I also though so, I asked the salesperson and she said it is "NOT"
Timberwolf. In fact the packaging (yellow) look like Timberwolf. Behind the
packaging it state.."Made in SE" (Hmmmm... wonder where is SE?).
I'll swear to it that Viking is better than Timberwolf and I'm sure many of you
will swear that Lee valley is honest and a reputable company to do business
with?
>I believe if you look in the Lee Valley 2003/2004 catalog, page 98, you'll see:
>
>"Viking Bandsaw Blades
>These blades (previously identified as the Timberwolf brand)..."
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:24:42 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
Viking and Timberwolf blades may have come from the same factory I really do not
know. I have no problems with Viking blades from Lee Valley. The finished are
many time better than the blades from Timberwolf. Anyway I trust Lee Valley,
they have not screwed me yet.
Give me a few days and I will "try" post pics from Viking's and Timberwolf's
blade in abpw. :-)
>On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:37:21 -0400, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>WD wrote:
>>
>>> Ah yes, I also though so, I asked the salesperson and she said it is "NOT"
>>> Timberwolf. In fact the packaging (yellow) look like Timberwolf. Behind the
>>> packaging it state.."Made in SE" (Hmmmm... wonder where is SE?).
>>
>>I know that the "PS Wood" blades are relabeled TimberWolf. I suspect Lee Valley may
>>have a similar arrangement with the manufacturer.
>>
>>Rob??
WD wrote:
> An example... many people here swear Timberwolf blades are the best and will die
> for it. Even the salesperson whom I trust in Woodcraft say so. Nevertheless, I
> have bad experiences with it. It is really truly crappy. I did try Lee Valley's
> "Viking" blade, I am surprise LV's 3/16" saw better (almost no saw's marked and
> very smooth) compare with Timberwolf 1/2" blades which cost almost the same.
I believe if you look in the Lee Valley 2003/2004 catalog, page 98, you'll see:
"Viking Bandsaw Blades
These blades (previously identified as the Timberwolf brand)..."
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
WD wrote:
> Ah yes, I also though so, I asked the salesperson and she said it is "NOT"
> Timberwolf. In fact the packaging (yellow) look like Timberwolf. Behind the
> packaging it state.."Made in SE" (Hmmmm... wonder where is SE?).
I know that the "PS Wood" blades are relabeled TimberWolf. I suspect Lee Valley may
have a similar arrangement with the manufacturer.
Rob??
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:04:25 -0600, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
>I doubt that paying more mean better! Elma glue cost less than Titebond and they
>are still the same.
Out in the rain and snow?
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:37:21 -0400, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>WD wrote:
>
>> Ah yes, I also though so, I asked the salesperson and she said it is "NOT"
>> Timberwolf. In fact the packaging (yellow) look like Timberwolf. Behind the
>> packaging it state.."Made in SE" (Hmmmm... wonder where is SE?).
>
>I know that the "PS Wood" blades are relabeled TimberWolf. I suspect Lee Valley may
>have a similar arrangement with the manufacturer.
>
>Rob??
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:12:57 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>How does $6.45 sound?
>
In Canada TB III is 37.99CDN a gal.
If I ordered from Woodworker it would cost rme roughly $80CDN delivered.<g>
>
>
>
>"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:17:58 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> How much freight and handling?
>> $5, $10 or maybe $15?
>>
>> >Titebond III is $29.99 a gallon from Woodworkers Supply. Woodworker.com.
>> >Have fun.
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got
>their
>> >very
>> >> first batch.
>> >>
>> >> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>> >> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>> >> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>> >> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>> >> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>> >> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>> >>
>> >> Wayne
>> >
>>
>
"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:26:45 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> For fifteen bucks or less and definately last more two years plus a FREE
> re-grinding coupon, it's more than worth it.
>
> Did you see the TWC's demonstration in woodworking shows? Go and see it
and
> decide for yourself! if you can afford to spend more than me and getting
the
> same results, that your RIGHT!
>
> No offence please. :-)
Yes I have seen the show with the Oldham blade. It reminds me of the show
that Forrest puts on. And these shows are often done with a Craftsman TS.
IIRC the show blade is in the $50-$70 range and again IIRC it has been
brought up that the blade in the stores is NOT the same as the one sold at
the show although the name is the same or similar. If this blade makes you
happy, then that is all that counts.
I wonder what the hook is here though. A $15 blade that comes with a free
regind coupon? Typically a resharpen will cost more than what you paid for
the blade. Do you see a problem with this picture?
"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their
very
> first batch.
>
> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>
> Wayne
There is still a limit of a year on shelf life from what I've read. Putting
it in smaller bottles will help it from getting thick too soon though.
http://www.titebond.com/WNTitebondIIITB.asp
"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Another example, everyone includes woodworking magazines swear that
Forrest saw
> blades are the best and I do not disagree with it. The blade cost more
than
> $100! Did you know you could get Oldham's 10x40 combination saw blades for
less
> than $15?, a 10x50 combination for less than $11! INCLUDING shipping and
> handling! Fine Woodworking magazine rate Oldham as very good and cheap.
> Initially, I bought one for $51. I discovered Oldham is really very good.
I
> bought two more at Ebay. Go to Ebay and type "10" carbides saw". Look for
Oldham
> saw, but this honest gentleman selling it. (sorry, I did not post this
earlier
> as I don't want everyone rushing to Ebay and jack the price up before I
get what
> I need. note, the blades may look like being used it's NOT as I found out
later
> after testing it).
It will be interesting to see how many more times the Cheapo blades will
have to be resharpened than the Forrest. This is part of what you are
paying for, a product that goes the distance, works as good in 5 years as it
did new. In the end, for those that to a lot of sawing I am sure the
Forrest will be cheaper.
I susperct that SE is Sweeden. I infer this from the root domain name from Sweeden (i.e. www.server.se). Also makes some
sense with the product name (Viking).
JAW
WD wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:05:39 -0400, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ah yes, I also though so, I asked the salesperson and she said it is "NOT"
> Timberwolf. In fact the packaging (yellow) look like Timberwolf. Behind the
> packaging it state.."Made in SE" (Hmmmm... wonder where is SE?).
>
> I'll swear to it that Viking is better than Timberwolf and I'm sure many of you
> will swear that Lee valley is honest and a reputable company to do business
> with?
>
>
>
>>I believe if you look in the Lee Valley 2003/2004 catalog, page 98, you'll see:
>>
>>"Viking Bandsaw Blades
>>These blades (previously identified as the Timberwolf brand)..."
>
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> IIRC the show blade is in the $50-$70 range and again IIRC it has been
> brought up that the blade in the stores is NOT the same as the one sold at
> the show although the name is the same or similar. If this blade makes
you
A'yup. That Oldham blade that FWW rated highly is NOT the one found at
Lowe's / Sears for $40. It's around $70 from TWC. Whether their
"equivalent" in performance or not - caveat user.
That said - I've cooled on Suffolk Saw blades, but still think they're good
stuff.
And I like my DeWalt "Series 60" 40T combo blade that's now down to $26,
in-store, at Tool King.
Titebond III is $29.99 a gallon from Woodworkers Supply. Woodworker.com.
Have fun.
Joe
"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their
very
> first batch.
>
> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>
> Wayne
How does $6.45 sound?
"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:17:58 GMT, "Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> How much freight and handling?
> $5, $10 or maybe $15?
>
> >Titebond III is $29.99 a gallon from Woodworkers Supply. Woodworker.com.
> >Have fun.
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Wayne Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got
their
> >very
> >> first batch.
> >>
> >> I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
> >> Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
> >> I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
> >> I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
> >> If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
> >> Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >
>
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:46:21 -0600, WD <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:39:52 GMT, Wayne Green <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>You should be able to get smaller quantity from Woodcraft. Last week I bought 32
>once for $12.99 in a local Woodcraft store.
>
No Woodcraft here, in fact no one other than Windsor Plywood carries Titebond
for over 250 miles.
The Gallon is only $37.99 quarts are almost twice the price per volume.
>>
>>This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their very
>>first batch.
>>
>>I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>>Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>>I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>>I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>>If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>>Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>>
>>Wayne
I bought a gallon of the Titebond III, and asked the same question, so
I called Titebond tech support and was told that it has approx 1yr
shelf life, and moving to smaller containers will NOT extend the life
John
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:39:52 GMT, Wayne Green <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>This glue is brand spanking new in my area. Windsor Plywood just got their very
>first batch.
>
>I need about 1/2+ gallon of this stuff for an outdoor project.
>Gluing up cedar for some big garden planters.
>I'm a little concerned as to what to do with the rest.
>I would like to move it into shop sized 8-16 oz bottles.
>If I do this what kind of shelf life will I get?
>Buying quart sizes is quite a bit more money.
>
>Wayne