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19/08/2003 1:49 PM

Antique Heart of Pine

So I'm a beginner woodworker. I'm going the route of handtools (I've
obtained Bailey 4, 5, 6, and 8 Planes from the Ebay and chisels and
saws from Japan WW). I'm building a workbench of the Good, Fast,
Cheap variety (http://www.terraclavis.com/bws/beginners.htm), which I
began last night.

I've recently obtained (for free) a few hundred + square feet of ~7/8"
thick heart of pine lumber that was milled and used as tongue and
groove flooring in one of the local schmancy houses (I'm in St.
Louis). The boards vary from 8" to 14" wide, most are under 4' but
there are 6' and 8' boards and a dozen or less are over 10'. They all
have been milled on the 'underside' with what appears to be 1/16"
steps (like this: __--__--__ ). The topsides are untouched.

So my question is what would this stuff be good for other than
flooring (if anything)? I was thinking I could layout a smallish
sub-floor in my newly annexed shop (read: my old garage) so I could
putter around my workbench on wood, but I was hoping to make some
cabinetry out of it, like a changing table for a baby, a kitchen
table, perhaps a tall-thin cupboard like Norm just built (I can't
remember the name he used for it).

Thanks for any help and ideas you all might have!


Doug.


This topic has 6 replies

Kk

"Kennor"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug) on 19/08/2003 1:49 PM

20/08/2003 1:12 AM



>rip off the tongues and grooves. >

You could use the tongue and groove for glueing up wider boards if it is
machined well. It will work as a spline. Remove some of the tongue for wood
movement and extra glue. You may want to invest in a portable planer to
surface the boards.

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug) on 19/08/2003 1:49 PM

20/08/2003 2:10 AM

Old growth heart pine is used in flooring, furniture and moldings. For
furniture, rip off the tongue and groove and either plane off the back side
grooves, which gives a thin board, or put that side to where it isn't seen.

Preston
"Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I'm a beginner woodworker. I'm going the route of handtools (I've
> obtained Bailey 4, 5, 6, and 8 Planes from the Ebay and chisels and
> saws from Japan WW). I'm building a workbench of the Good, Fast,
> Cheap variety (http://www.terraclavis.com/bws/beginners.htm), which I
> began last night.
>
> I've recently obtained (for free) a few hundred + square feet of ~7/8"
> thick heart of pine lumber that was milled and used as tongue and
> groove flooring in one of the local schmancy houses (I'm in St.
> Louis). The boards vary from 8" to 14" wide, most are under 4' but
> there are 6' and 8' boards and a dozen or less are over 10'. They all
> have been milled on the 'underside' with what appears to be 1/16"
> steps (like this: __--__--__ ). The topsides are untouched.
>
> So my question is what would this stuff be good for other than
> flooring (if anything)? I was thinking I could layout a smallish
> sub-floor in my newly annexed shop (read: my old garage) so I could
> putter around my workbench on wood, but I was hoping to make some
> cabinetry out of it, like a changing table for a baby, a kitchen
> table, perhaps a tall-thin cupboard like Norm just built (I can't
> remember the name he used for it).
>
> Thanks for any help and ideas you all might have!
>
>
> Doug.

JM

"Jim Mc Namara"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug) on 19/08/2003 1:49 PM

20/08/2003 7:51 PM

Doug - it is of absolutely no value whatsoever. Send it to me and allow me
to dispose of it properly (like into a beautiful piece of country
furniture!) LOL! Great haul - build whatever your heart desires - but from
experience a great looking piece using that wood could be a country table of
some sort. Be sure to show off the figure of that stuff!

Enviously,

Jums



"Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message:
> The wood came from Chicago. My mom, an interior designer and builder,
> bought it for flooring for a new house. It looks like old barnwood.
> One side is surfaced, the other completely rough and weathered. I
> haven't had a good look at the growth rings.
>
> I believe it's been completely de-nailed (one side is surfaced). When
> they installed it, they sanded the floor /very roughly/, it's not
> polished or smooth. They filled the various holes with the sand-dust
> and glue. There were lot's of nail holes. They finished the floor
> with semi-gloss varnish and then satin varnish, no stain. The floor
> comes off a very dark red/orange/brown type color. I'm not an expert
> so I can't explain it well. But it looks great, IMO.
>
> Either way, they're finishing the basement so rather than sell it we
> hauled it up to my house in St. Charles. Now I just have to finish my
> bench and figure out what to do with it...
>
> Doug
>
>
> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I'm not opposed to trading, but I'd like to firm up some of my ideas
> > > first, so I know what I'd need, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > Are you a local furniture maker or just a hobbiest? (Is that spelled
> > > right? doesn't look like it...) The only local 'cabinetmaker' type
> > > guy I've seen is Difenbacher, over in Kirkwood. But he ignored my
> > > emails.
> > >
> >
> > "JUST" a hobbyist? That hurts. ;^)
> >
> > At this point in time, I do mainly small stuff (boxes, clocks, etc.) so
> > I'm not looking for more than a few boards. However, by moving the cars
> > out of the garage, the workshop goes from 10X12 to as big as is needed
> > to do large work or surface big boards.
> >
> > Where did the wood come from? A new house or an old one that was torn
> > down? What kind of shape is the wood in (full of nails, grit, etc)? Is
> > it old growth or just old (how close together are the growth rings) ?

Sw

"Steve"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug) on 19/08/2003 1:49 PM

19/08/2003 9:01 PM


"Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I'm a beginner woodworker. I'm going the route of handtools (I've
> obtained Bailey 4, 5, 6, and 8 Planes from the Ebay and chisels and
> saws from Japan WW). I'm building a workbench of the Good, Fast,
> Cheap variety (http://www.terraclavis.com/bws/beginners.htm), which I
> began last night.
>
> I've recently obtained (for free) a few hundred + square feet of ~7/8"
> thick heart of pine lumber that was milled and used as tongue and
> groove flooring in one of the local schmancy houses (I'm in St.
> Louis). The boards vary from 8" to 14" wide, most are under 4' but
> there are 6' and 8' boards and a dozen or less are over 10'. They all
> have been milled on the 'underside' with what appears to be 1/16"
> steps (like this: __--__--__ ). The topsides are untouched.
>
> So my question is what would this stuff be good for other than
> flooring (if anything)? I was thinking I could layout a smallish
> sub-floor in my newly annexed shop (read: my old garage) so I could
> putter around my workbench on wood, but I was hoping to make some
> cabinetry out of it, like a changing table for a baby, a kitchen
> table, perhaps a tall-thin cupboard like Norm just built (I can't
> remember the name he used for it).
>
> Thanks for any help and ideas you all might have!
>
>
> Doug.

You can use it for anything you like. You might want to mill down the
grooves on the bottom and rip off the tongues and grooves. Planing all
that by hand is going to be a chore though. Perhaps we could trade some
machine time for some of the wood?

Steve in Webster Groves

dD

in reply to [email protected] (Doug) on 19/08/2003 1:49 PM

20/08/2003 7:34 AM

I'm not opposed to trading, but I'd like to firm up some of my ideas
first, so I know what I'd need, etc, etc.

Are you a local furniture maker or just a hobbiest? (Is that spelled
right? doesn't look like it...) The only local 'cabinetmaker' type
guy I've seen is Difenbacher, over in Kirkwood. But he ignored my
emails.

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> You can use it for anything you like. You might want to mill down the
> grooves on the bottom and rip off the tongues and grooves. Planing all
> that by hand is going to be a chore though. Perhaps we could trade some
> machine time for some of the wood?
>
> Steve in Webster Groves

dD

in reply to [email protected] (Doug) on 19/08/2003 1:49 PM

20/08/2003 11:45 AM

The wood came from Chicago. My mom, an interior designer and builder,
bought it for flooring for a new house. It looks like old barnwood.
One side is surfaced, the other completely rough and weathered. I
haven't had a good look at the growth rings.

I believe it's been completely de-nailed (one side is surfaced). When
they installed it, they sanded the floor /very roughly/, it's not
polished or smooth. They filled the various holes with the sand-dust
and glue. There were lot's of nail holes. They finished the floor
with semi-gloss varnish and then satin varnish, no stain. The floor
comes off a very dark red/orange/brown type color. I'm not an expert
so I can't explain it well. But it looks great, IMO.

Either way, they're finishing the basement so rather than sell it we
hauled it up to my house in St. Charles. Now I just have to finish my
bench and figure out what to do with it...

Doug


"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm not opposed to trading, but I'd like to firm up some of my ideas
> > first, so I know what I'd need, etc, etc.
> >
> > Are you a local furniture maker or just a hobbiest? (Is that spelled
> > right? doesn't look like it...) The only local 'cabinetmaker' type
> > guy I've seen is Difenbacher, over in Kirkwood. But he ignored my
> > emails.
> >
>
> "JUST" a hobbyist? That hurts. ;^)
>
> At this point in time, I do mainly small stuff (boxes, clocks, etc.) so
> I'm not looking for more than a few boards. However, by moving the cars
> out of the garage, the workshop goes from 10X12 to as big as is needed
> to do large work or surface big boards.
>
> Where did the wood come from? A new house or an old one that was torn
> down? What kind of shape is the wood in (full of nails, grit, etc)? Is
> it old growth or just old (how close together are the growth rings) ?


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