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"Nova"

21/01/2011 2:51 PM

OT: "Windows Live Mail" format question

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This topic has 29 replies

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 6:23 PM

"Windows Live Mail" is the Microsoft replacement for "Outlook Express"
in Windows 7.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA


On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:51:51 -0000, "Tim W" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
>> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
>What is Windows Live Mail?
>
>Tim W
>

Nn

"Nova"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 4:28 PM


Other than using Live Mail to access this newsgroup it's not. That's why I
marked it OT.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA


"Gordon Shumway" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:51:32 -0500, "Nova" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the
>beginning of each line of quoted text?

Please explain how this is even remotely related to woodworking.

Nn

"Nova"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 7:08 AM

There was no option to "Indent the original text with '>' when replying or
forwarding" under the "Plain Text" button, but unchecking " Reply to
messages using the format in which they were sent" seem to do the trick.

Thanks.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

"couillion" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA

Is this what you're looking for?

This will indent > the entire message being replied to, but only in plain
text mode.

In Windows Live Mail Version 2008

TOOLS
OPTIONS
SEND
uncheck - Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent

then go down to - News Sending Format

then select - Plain Text

then set plain text settings
Plain Text Settings...
Indent the original text with '>' when replying or forwarding.
-

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Mm

Markem

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 12:59 PM

On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:09:42 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Elegance" in software design seems to have gone the way of natural tits.

Now there is a sig.

Mark

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 12:45 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Is this what you're looking for?
>
> This will indent > the entire message being replied to, but only in plain
> text mode.
>
> In Windows Live Mail Version 2008
>
> TOOLS


That, sadly, has been eliminated in the 2011 version.

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 1:27 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote
> Other than using Live Mail to access this newsgroup it's not. That's why
> I marked it OT.
>>Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the
>>beginning of each line of quoted text?

Go to the top and click on "tools" in the bar on top.
In that drop down menu that appears, click on "options" at the bottom
When a new box appears, select the "send" tab
Go down to "mail sending format", and select the box for "plain text".
Click on "plain text settings".
The box that appears has the setting you are looking for, to check or
uncheck.
--
Jim in NC

cc

"couillion"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 10:08 PM

"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA

Is this what you're looking for?

This will indent > the entire message being replied to, but only in plain
text mode.

In Windows Live Mail Version 2008

TOOLS
OPTIONS
SEND
uncheck - Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent

then go down to - News Sending Format

then select - Plain Text

then set plain text settings
Plain Text Settings...
Indent the original text with '>' when replying or forwarding.
-

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 11:04 PM

MS is progressive and usually sets the future.


"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In it's wisdom MS recently uploaded an "improved" version of WLM that no
longer automatically quotes the message being replied to, and despite a
howls of protests from WLM users has so far failed to fix this
breathtakingly stupid blunder. This is a strong argument in favor of not
downloading and installing Windows updates automatically, but rather waiting
until you see the public reaction to the latest "improvements".


Sk

Swingman

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 8:09 AM

On 1/22/2011 7:14 AM, Nova wrote:
> From what I've been able to determine "Outlook Express" won't run
> under "Windows 7" unless "Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC" is
> installed. Installation of "Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC"
> requires a minimum of "Windows 7 Professional" to be installed. I
> have the "Home Premium" version. I should probably upgrade my version
> but I won't do it simply to get "Outlook Express" to run.

I fought that battle about five years ago when I bought a Dell laptop
with Vista/Windows Mail and, to get any kind of preferred configuration
for mail and newsgroups, was forced to switch to WLM as the lesser of
two evils ... which was a POS from the get go.

After bitching on MSFT's forums for about a year, I finally gave up on
WLM and went, kicking and screaming, to Thunderbird.

While I've gotten used to TB, I still miss the simplicity of OE for the
way I prefer to work, with just the right amount of configuration
without unneeded, for my purposes, bells and whistles.

Further proof that, instead of standing on the shoulders of the giants
that went before them, this younger generation of programmers and
software designers reflect the culture by being more interested in whiz,
bang, and bling, than in simple, elegant _functionality_.

"Elegance" in software design seems to have gone the way of natural tits.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 11:03 PM

Some of it will crash your computer. You need to know what you feed your
computer when it pukes.

I control my updates also and they are all done manually picked over.

"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't ever use the option for my computer to update windows automatically.
I select what to ignore, as I like.
--
Jim in NC



EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 1:31 PM


"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote
> Go to the top and click on "tools" in the bar on top.
> In that drop down menu that appears, click on "options" at the bottom


Except the 2011 version does NOT have a "tools" on the top bar.

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 6:29 PM

Your not that far behind. Up until last week I was using Netscape
Navagator 4.79 for newsgroups.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA



On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:07:16 -0000, "Tim W" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Disbelief" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Tim W wrote:
>>>
>>> What is Windows Live Mail?
>>>
>> The successor to Windows Mail in Microsoft Vista - which was the successor
>> to Outlook Express in Windows XP.
>>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Always like to be a couple of versions of Windows behind.
>
>Tim W
>

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 12:48 PM

What a waste of bandwidth and confusion (using ">") just to support some of
the fancy email/usenet readers that confuse the hell out of the threading if
one punctuation mark is missed. Leave it turned off

Just use top posting, the way it was intended to be with the reference text
below. Who wants to read all that crap repeatedly, anyway?
Stay tuned for the ADHD whining.

Oh LOOK! Your text is right under your OWN message identifier instead of the
far end of the message.
-----------------------

"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
There was no option to "Indent the original text with '>' when replying or
forwarding" under the "Plain Text" button, but unchecking " Reply to
messages using the format in which they were sent" seem to do the trick.

Thanks.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

"couillion" wrote in message news:[email protected]...


LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 10:57 PM

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:07:25 -0600, Gordon Shumway
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:51:32 -0500, "Nova" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
>Please explain how this is even remotely related to woodworking.

Please learn to connect the "OT:" in the header with the thought "I
think I'll just skip this message." Gordon.

It makes life easier.

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air...
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 3:51 PM

On 1/21/11 3:07 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:51:32 -0500, "Nova"<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
> Please explain how this is even remotely related to woodworking.


You really don't know what "OT:" means?


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Dd

"Disbelief"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 10:07 PM

Nova wrote:
> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?

-----------------------------------------------------------

You cannot, it's that simple. Microsoft in its wisdom has deleted this
facility - many user of Windows Live Mail use a line (as above) to
differentiate between the original post and their reply.

When you get used to WLM, could you please change your settings to Plain
Text rather the HTML as it is a little more secure from viruses etc - not
much but its better than nothing. Also the text reads better.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 5:12 PM

On 1/21/11 2:51 PM, Nova wrote:
> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?

You can't, unless you are willing to do it manually.
I personally prefer using a separate program for email and usenet.
Various reasons, including accidental emails being posted to usenet.

Download another program for usenet, would be my recommendation.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

TW

"Tim W"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 10:51 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?

What is Windows Live Mail?

Tim W

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 6:03 PM

On 1/21/11 5:51 PM, Tim W wrote:
> "Nova"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
>> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
> What is Windows Live Mail?
>
Replacement for Outlook Express, especially for Windows 7, it doesn't
come with OE.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

Dd

"Disbelief"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 11:05 PM

Tim W wrote:
> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
>> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
> What is Windows Live Mail?
>
> Tim W

The successor to Windows Mail in Microsoft Vista - which was the successor
to Outlook Express in Windows XP.

TW

"Tim W"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 11:07 PM


"Disbelief" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tim W wrote:
>>
>> What is Windows Live Mail?
>>
> The successor to Windows Mail in Microsoft Vista - which was the successor
> to Outlook Express in Windows XP.
>

Thanks,

Always like to be a couple of versions of Windows behind.

Tim W

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 12:46 AM

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:07:16 +0000, Tim W wrote:

> Always like to be a couple of versions of Windows behind.

I'm so far behind my OS is called Linux :-).

Come to think of it, that should be "ahead".

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 10:26 AM

On 1/22/2011 8:09 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/22/2011 7:14 AM, Nova wrote:
>> From what I've been able to determine "Outlook Express" won't run
>> under "Windows 7" unless "Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC" is
>> installed. Installation of "Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC"
>> requires a minimum of "Windows 7 Professional" to be installed. I
>> have the "Home Premium" version. I should probably upgrade my version
>> but I won't do it simply to get "Outlook Express" to run.
>
> I fought that battle about five years ago when I bought a Dell laptop with
> Vista/Windows Mail and, to get any kind of preferred configuration for mail and
> newsgroups, was forced to switch to WLM as the lesser of two evils ... which
> was a POS from the get go.
>
> After bitching on MSFT's forums for about a year, I finally gave up on WLM and
> went, kicking and screaming, to Thunderbird.
>
> While I've gotten used to TB, I still miss the simplicity of OE for the way I
> prefer to work, with just the right amount of configuration without unneeded,
> for my purposes, bells and whistles.

I've used Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird for so many years I can't
imagine forcing myself to use one of those Microsoft mail programs instead.
Every time I get sucked into helping a friend or relative troubleshoot a
problem with one of the MS mailers I wind up pulling out a few more gray hairs.
They just do so many things *wrong* (in my humble opinion, of course).

--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
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Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 6:29 AM

Nova wrote:
> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?

I don't think you can (maybe there's an add-on).

Your best bet is to find a copy of Outlook Express - copy it from an XP
machine.

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 1:45 PM


"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> That, sadly, has been eliminated in the 2011 version.

Ahh. I missed the fact that he was in the 2011 version. I downloaded that,
and immediately went back to the old, while I still could.

I don't ever use the option for my computer to update windows automatically.
I select what to ignore, as I like.
--
Jim in NC

DD

"DGDevin"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 11:07 AM



"Nova" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the
> beginning of each line of quoted text?

In it's wisdom MS recently uploaded an "improved" version of WLM that no
longer automatically quotes the message being replied to, and despite a
howls of protests from WLM users has so far failed to fix this
breathtakingly stupid blunder. This is a strong argument in favor of not
downloading and installing Windows updates automatically, but rather waiting
until you see the public reaction to the latest "improvements".

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

21/01/2011 3:07 PM

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:51:32 -0500, "Nova" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail” to append "> ” to the beginning of each line of quoted text?

Please explain how this is even remotely related to woodworking.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 8:08 AM

?
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nova wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
>> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
> I don't think you can (maybe there's an add-on).
>
> Your best bet is to find a copy of Outlook Express - copy it from an XP
> machine.
>

You are correct, the 2011 version does not do it. I was able to revert back
to the earlier version and it still does the > marks. I did some searching
on Microsoft forums and could not find any work-around. The 2011 version
has a few nice features, but is certainly fails for posting to newsgroups.

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Nova" on 21/01/2011 2:51 PM

22/01/2011 8:14 AM

From what I've been able to determine "Outlook Express" won't run
under "Windows 7" unless "Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC" is
installed. Installation of "Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC"
requires a minimum of "Windows 7 Professional" to be installed. I
have the "Home Premium" version. I should probably upgrade my version
but I won't do it simply to get "Outlook Express" to run.



On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:29:21 -0600, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Nova wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to get "Windows Live Mail" to append "> " to the
>> beginning of each line of quoted text?
>
>I don't think you can (maybe there's an add-on).
>
>Your best bet is to find a copy of Outlook Express - copy it from an XP
>machine.
>
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA


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