jJ

[email protected] (JMWEBER987)

13/12/2004 1:35 AM

WAY OT: image transfer to metal

Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot of
knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This idea
pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to transfer
to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are autographed the image
would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to have something
like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to the realm of the
sweaters and perfume?
Thanks for any help. Mike in Arkansas


This topic has 14 replies

FH

"Fletis Humplebacker"

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

13/12/2004 12:37 PM


"JMWEBER987"
> Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot of
> knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
> lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This idea
> pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
> resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
> there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to transfer
> to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are autographed the image
> would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to have something
> like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to the realm of the
> sweaters and perfume?
> Thanks for any help. Mike in Arkansas

I'm in the sign/screenprinting business. It isn't a job for screening.
I agree with the digital print idea. If you are in a decent sized
town you can get laminated vinyl prints done or do it online and send them
jpegs and size info. I might contour cut them (around the main image
to make it look even better). Make sure it's outdoor inks so they will be
colorfast.

g

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

19/12/2004 8:12 AM

Mike,'

I have an answer for you, but this is the first time I've been to
Google Groups for awhile and I am stumbling around with the new format.

E-mail me at [email protected] and I will send you the info and a couple
photos.

Since you don't know me, do a Google search on me and you will find the
page with info about making DIY woodgrain paper. That page will soon be
updated with info about transferring images to metal or wood.
E-mail me. You'll like this method.

Stewart Schooley

g

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

19/12/2004 5:19 PM

Mike ,

This new Google Groups format is driving me nuts. I replied to your
post, but it has been about 10 hours and it hasn't shown up.

If it doesn't show up, check out this site so you can see what I'm
involved with,

http://pages.cthome.net/ptf/photofin/photoFinish.html

I have a new one for transferring the image to wood or metal and
removing the paper. Works like a charm. and is very cheap to do.

E-mail me at [email protected] and I will send you the info and a couple
pictures.

Stewart Schooley

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

12/12/2004 8:31 PM

In article <[email protected]>, JMWEBER987
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot of
> knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
> lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This idea
> pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
> resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
> there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to
> transfer
> to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are autographed the image
> would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to have something
> like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to the realm of
> the
> sweaters and perfume?

Silkscreening shop?

Pn

Prometheus

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

12/12/2004 7:55 PM

On 13 Dec 2004 01:35:25 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote:

>Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot of
>knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
>lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This idea
>pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
>resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
>there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to transfer
>to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are autographed the image
>would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to have something
>like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to the realm of the
>sweaters and perfume?

Two thoughts, one or both of which might work for you- First, I knew
a guy who needed several wooden disks with complex images on them, and
he didn't want to hand paint all of them, so he glued computer
printouts to the blanks and laquered over them. They ended up looking
quite a bit better than I would have thought they might- it might work
for you on a lunchbox, or that may not be sturdy enough. The other
thought is that you can probably have it done by a company that does
silkscreen printing. I would imagine that just about anyone who does
t-shirts should be able to do this for you, provided it is possible to
silkscreen onto metal (and I'm about 99% sure it is.)

>Thanks for any help. Mike in Arkansas

Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

JJ

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

12/12/2004 11:12 PM

Mon, Dec 13, 2004, 1:35am (EST+5) [email protected] (JMWEBER987)
proclaims:
Sorry, not sure <snip> it can be done at all much less at a resonable
cost.<snip> in Arkansas

Oh yeah, it can be done. Just not sure if it can be done in
Arkansas. LMAO

Reasonable cost would have to be determined by you. If you're
talking about Bill Gates, $1,000,000 could be considered reaonable.

Any way, if not of the other things work - quite awhile back
Popular Mechanics had an article on making a copy of one of their
covers. On glass. I don't recall if it was etch, or sandblasted, or
any details on how it was ne, but the detail in the photos was great. I
don't recall what year this was, let alone the issue. Maybe your local
library can help. If that doesn't do it, I'd e-mail Pop Mech and ask
them. They might even be able to provide a copy of the article. Or,
you could always photocopy the picture, and epoxy it down, or have a
photo copy done. Hmm, check a place that does plaques, maybe they can
help, or point you in some direction.



JOAT
We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.
- unknown

jJ

[email protected] (JMWEBER987)

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 12/12/2004 11:12 PM

13/12/2004 1:35 PM

> Just not sure if it can be done in
>Arkansas

Ouch!
Mike in Arkansas :)
Seriously, thanks everyone for all the helpful suggestions.

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

13/12/2004 5:13 AM

Could you take your original art to Kinko's, or equal, and have a
color copy made of the them?
You can probably get them resized if need be. Crop or cut out the
silhouette and glue to lunch box. Brush or spray a couple of
coats of water based poly or other clear coat product.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
[email protected]



"JMWEBER987" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know
> there are a lot of
> knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm
> looking for a
> lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something
> different. This idea
> pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all
> much less at a
> resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal.
> Specifically,
> there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would
> like to transfer
> to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are
> autographed the image
> would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to
> have something
> like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to
> the realm of the
> sweaters and perfume?
> Thanks for any help. Mike in Arkansas

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

12/12/2004 7:53 PM

On 13 Dec 2004 01:35:25 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) calmly
ranted:

>Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot of
>knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
>lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This idea
>pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
>resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
>there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to transfer
>to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are autographed the image
>would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to have something
>like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to the realm of the
>sweaters and perfume?

Take them down to your local t-shirt printing shop, have silkscreens
made, and let them screen it onto the lunchbox.

Mr. Rogers lunchbox for the little lady? Whoop te do!

BTW, what's "Christman"?


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max

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

13/12/2004 10:06 PM

You can have your photo scanned to a computer, Kinko's can do it and then
print it on adhesive backed photo paper and stick it on. The only other way
is to spread photo emulsion on the box, print it on an enlarger and develop
it. You will need to make a copy neg. Any photo lab can do the copy neg and
you can buy photo emulsion at a photo store. You can then find a photo club
and ask one of the members to do it for you.
max

> Could you take your original art to Kinko's, or equal, and have a
> color copy made of the them?
> You can probably get them resized if need be. Crop or cut out the
> silhouette and glue to lunch box. Brush or spray a couple of
> coats of water based poly or other clear coat product.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> "JMWEBER987" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know
>> there are a lot of
>> knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm
>> looking for a
>> lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something
>> different. This idea
>> pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all
>> much less at a
>> resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal.
>> Specifically,
>> there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would
>> like to transfer
>> to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are
>> autographed the image
>> would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to
>> have something
>> like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to
>> the realm of the
>> sweaters and perfume?
>> Thanks for any help. Mike in Arkansas
>
>

MP

Murray Peterson

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

13/12/2004 6:06 PM

[email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Is it possible to transfer images to metal.

Yes

> Specifically,
> there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to
> transfer to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are
> autographed the image would need to be a 'non-reversed' image.

Scan the image, reverse it, and print it onto some transfer paper:

http://www.talbot1.com/collage_supplies/transpap/transpapind.htm

Sd

Sandman

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

12/12/2004 11:16 PM



> On 13 Dec 2004 01:35:25 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote:
>
> >Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot
> >of
> >knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
> >lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This
> >idea
> >pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
> >resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
> >there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to
> >transfer
> >to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. [major snippage]

To create a silkscreen of a photograph, you'd need to make at least 4
screens, for 4 colours. CYMK. The resolution would be very course unless
you started to blow serious dough.
You will find that anybody who does silkscreens to that level comes at a
premium.
The laser idea won't be feasable by the 'normal' sign making people,
their thicknesses (AFAIR) top out at about 1 1/2".
I would suggest a permanent inkjet on vinyl print. Some of those films
are adhesive backed.

My 2 cents.

RT

"Rick"

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

13/12/2004 2:27 AM

Laser ... set to etch but not to burn.

DAGS or CTYP (Do A Google Search or Check The Yellow Pages) for a laser-cnc
shop near you.

You may have to pay to "digitize" the photos into a format recognizable by
the laser, but it's pretty quick.

HTH

Rick


(and for those who are keeping score, I DIDN'T recommend using a CNC router
THIS TIME! :)


"JMWEBER987" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a
lot of
> knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
> lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This
idea
> pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at
a
> resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal.
Specifically,
> there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to
transfer
> to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. Since they are autographed the
image
> would need to be a 'non-reversed' image. Where would one go to have
something
> like that done. Is it even possible or do I need to return to the realm
of the
> sweaters and perfume?
> Thanks for any help. Mike in Arkansas

Jj

John

in reply to [email protected] (JMWEBER987) on 13/12/2004 1:35 AM

13/12/2004 11:09 AM

There are now lasers that "burn/etch" to wood, metal, etc. They run
about $10k, but I betcha one of the local trophy shops should have or
know of where to get this done

Essenitally they are seen by a computer as a PRINTER and just about
anything you can scan in can be 'burned/etched' onto a suitable
surface.

Maybe have a piece of thin metal 'etched' this way and glue it on the
lunchbox. Don't know if this laser will accept the whole lunchbox for
this purpose

John

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:16:26 -0500, Sandman <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
>> On 13 Dec 2004 01:35:25 GMT, [email protected] (JMWEBER987) wrote:
>>
>> >Sorry, not sure where to turn for help with this and I know there are a lot
>> >of
>> >knowledgeble and resorceful inhabitants of the wreck. I'm looking for a
>> >lunchbox for my wife for Christman, you know, something different. This
>> >idea
>> >pops into my head and I'm not even sure it can be done at all much less at a
>> >resonable cost. Is it possible to transfer images to metal. Specifically,
>> >there are a couple of photographs signed by Mr. Rogers I would like to
>> >transfer
>> >to the side of a plain metal lunchbox. [major snippage]
>
>To create a silkscreen of a photograph, you'd need to make at least 4
>screens, for 4 colours. CYMK. The resolution would be very course unless
>you started to blow serious dough.
>You will find that anybody who does silkscreens to that level comes at a
>premium.
>The laser idea won't be feasable by the 'normal' sign making people,
>their thicknesses (AFAIR) top out at about 1 1/2".
>I would suggest a permanent inkjet on vinyl print. Some of those films
>are adhesive backed.
>
>My 2 cents.


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