I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
(http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost too
good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200 and
200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
air flow.
Cheers, Ollie
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
too
> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
and
> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> air flow.
>
> Cheers, Ollie
>
>
You are confusing inflated HP ratings on the other compressors. 3 HP
anywhere in the world will get you about 10 CFM @ 90 PSI. I have a Porter
Cable Compressor, advertised at 7 HP, reality is about 3 HP when you do the
math of the volt/amp draw of the motor. It has a 60 gallon tank, produces 9+
CFM @ 90 PSI. I paid less than $400 for it.
Now as far as the Grizzley compressor you link to. It seems to be a good
deal, other than the tiny tank, if all the specs are accurate. As for
reliability, noise, donno!
One thing to consider, that compressor will not be very portable, it weighs
179 LBS. Sure you can roll it around the shop, but you are not going to take
it with you where ever you go like a small pancake compressor.
Greg
>I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
>sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
>(http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
>too good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too
>loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
> and 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the
> same air flow.
A common method of getting better CFM performance with lower priced
compressors is to use a 3400 rpm motor rather than the more common 1750 rpm.
The drawbacks are greater noise and a shorter compressor lifespan. Perhaps
this is the case with this particular model.
"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> >
> I have been checking and have yet to find a 3 HP compressor that comes
even
> close to producing 10 CFM at 90 psi....mjh
>
Here is the one I have, specs seem real to me. Ignore the peak HP, running
is 3 HP, 9.7 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4701
I have run a DA sander for hours on end with this compressor, it will keep
up, just barely! When the sander is running, so is the compressor. The only
time the compressor quits is when I set down the sander!
The compressor I had before I had for years, long before the "Sears HP"
ratings came out. It was rated somewhere around 6+ CFM @ 90 PSI, it had a
real 2 HP 240 volt motor. It would not keep up to the fore mention DA
sander, but comparing the two compressors, the specs seem realistic to me.
Greg
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Greg,
> How you would describe the noise level in the CPLC7060V? Some people are
> sying that the heavy cast iron compressor is superior over the aluminium
> with iron sleeves. What is your experience?
> +++ Ollie
>
> >
Sure the cast iron compressors make less noise, but at a higher purchase
price! My feelings are you need to get close to $1000 before you will get a
real quality compressor, and I was not going to spend that much. I belive
that cast iron compressors in the same price range as the PC are about the
same quality.
This PC compressor replaced a older cast iron 2 HP compessor, noise level is
about the same. As far as longevity, time will tell. I know of a couple 60
gallon, 5 HP, (Sears, now Kmart HP!) aluminum compressors that have seen
pretty regular use that are 15 - 20 years old.
My last compressor was up in the attic of the garage, so I could barely hear
it. This compressor was too big to hide up there so I built a closet in the
corner of the shop for it. I used it for a couple months just sitting in the
cornerand did not have a big problem with the noise, but I could not hear
the TV over it! Even if I had bought a more expensive cast iron compressor
it would reside in a closet.
I have been satisfied with the purchase. Paid about $385 at Mills Fleet
Farm.
Greg
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost too
> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200 and
> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> air flow.
>
> Cheers, Ollie
If the compressor is strictly for the shop, buy a Quincy 3 hp. Will do
anything you need to except run tools with very large air
requirements. 20gallon tank is not enough for some sanders and HVLP
guns.They are made in Quincy Illinois, oil bath ,quiet, will outlast
any brand I have ever used. I believe the ratings is over 8 at 90 and
over 10 at 40
If you need to lug a compressor from job to job, I would suggest a
twin tank with at least 4 gallon capacity.I have a Senco, made by
DeVilbiss I think for portability.
mike
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
too
> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
and
> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> air flow.
Hmm, they cut corners in two areas to get the price down. The tank is
absolutely, ridiculously small for the claimed capacity. Its silly to talk
about how long it takes to fill the tank. Of course it doesn't take long.
There's not much there to fill! I'd rule it out just for that reason. The
other area is that its an aluminum compressor with cast iron sleeves. Don't
think of it as equal to the competitor's solid cast iron compressors. The
other competitors weigh over 200 lb because they have larger tanks and cast
iron cylinders. More weight is there because its more compressor -
substantially more, in my opinion. A solid cast iron compressor will also be
quieter than an aluminum compressor.
If you want a decent value for $200, its probably OK, but don't go after it,
if you really do need the claimed capacity. Also remember the price is
really $258 when you count shipping and start comparing it to local retail.
Bob
"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> > sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> > (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
> too
> > good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
> >
> > This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
> and
> > 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> > air flow.
> >
> > Cheers, Ollie
> >
> >
>
> You are confusing inflated HP ratings on the other compressors. 3 HP
> anywhere in the world will get you about 10 CFM @ 90 PSI. I have a Porter
> Cable Compressor, advertised at 7 HP, reality is about 3 HP when you do the
> math of the volt/amp draw of the motor. It has a 60 gallon tank, produces 9+
> CFM @ 90 PSI. I paid less than $400 for it.
>
> Now as far as the Grizzley compressor you link to. It seems to be a good
> deal, other than the tiny tank, if all the specs are accurate. As for
> reliability, noise, donno!
>
> One thing to consider, that compressor will not be very portable, it weighs
> 179 LBS. Sure you can roll it around the shop, but you are not going to take
> it with you where ever you go like a small pancake compressor.
> Greg
You're also not going to take it with you because most of the places
you go are probably not going to have 220v handy (and even if they do
will probably have a different outlet than your plug). Given the 220v
I am a little confused with the small tank on what looks to be an
otherwise pretty nice sounding unit.
I also am in the market for a new compressor. My old Sears unit has given up
the ghost after 30 years of good service, It is about the same size as the
Grizzlegut one.
Wrestled with the problem of needing a unit that could be primarily used for
spraying finishes in the shop but one that could be taken offsite and used
for a nail gun.[bradgun]
My solution was the large air tank as sold at HD and Lowes with the old
yeller flex coiled air hose. filled with air at 100psi it will last all day
. Should you run out of pressure when offsite then all you need to do is
find the nearest gas station.
As mentioned by others the tank looks a little small but may be fine . It
isit is then I was wondering if my existing tank on my dead sears could be
used in series ???? mjh
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"mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and
> >HVLP sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> >(http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
> >too good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too
> >loud?
>>
>> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
>> and 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the
>> same air flow.
>
> A common method of getting better CFM performance with lower priced
> compressors is to use a 3400 rpm motor rather than the more common 1750
> rpm. The drawbacks are greater noise and a shorter compressor lifespan.
> Perhaps this is the case with this particular model.
>
What is the best place to purchase Quincy?
What model is the most popular?
Ten years ago Harbor Freight was selling the Quincy model that won a review
in a woodworking magazine. Is that model still relevant today?
+++ Ollie
> If the compressor is strictly for the shop, buy a Quincy 3 hp. Will do
> anything you need to except run tools with very large air
> requirements. 20gallon tank is not enough for some sanders and HVLP
> guns.They are made in Quincy Illinois, oil bath ,quiet, will outlast
> any brand I have ever used. I believe the ratings is over 8 at 90 and
> over 10 at 40
> If you need to lug a compressor from job to job, I would suggest a
> twin tank with at least 4 gallon capacity.I have a Senco, made by
> DeVilbiss I think for portability.
> mike
I see where it is a 220 volt compressor.
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
too
> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
and
> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> air flow.
>
> Cheers, Ollie
>
>
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"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and
>> HVLP
>> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
>> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
> too
>> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too
>> loud?
>>
>> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
> and
>> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the
>> same
>> air flow.
>>
>> Cheers, Ollie
>>
>>
>
> You are confusing inflated HP ratings on the other compressors. 3 HP
> anywhere in the world will get you about 10 CFM @ 90 PSI. I have a Porter
> Cable Compressor, advertised at 7 HP, reality is about 3 HP when you do
> the
> math of the volt/amp draw of the motor. It has a 60 gallon tank, produces
> 9+
> CFM @ 90 PSI. I paid less than $400 for it.
>
> Now as far as the Grizzley compressor you link to. It seems to be a good
> deal, other than the tiny tank, if all the specs are accurate. As for
> reliability, noise, donno!
>
> One thing to consider, that compressor will not be very portable, it
> weighs
> 179 LBS. Sure you can roll it around the shop, but you are not going to
> take
> it with you where ever you go like a small pancake compressor.
> Greg
>
I have been checking and have yet to find a 3 HP compressor that comes even
close to producing 10 CFM at 90 psi....mjh
-"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is the best place to purchase Quincy?
> What model is the most popular?
>
> Ten years ago Harbor Freight was selling the Quincy model that won a
> review in a woodworking magazine. Is that model still relevant today?
>
> +++ Ollie
>
>> If the compressor is strictly for the shop, buy a Quincy 3 hp. Will do
>> anything you need to except run tools with very large air
>> requirements. 20gallon tank is not enough for some sanders and HVLP
>> guns.They are made in Quincy Illinois, oil bath ,quiet, will outlast
>> any brand I have ever used. I believe the ratings is over 8 at 90 and
>> over 10 at 40
>> If you need to lug a compressor from job to job, I would suggest a
>> twin tank with at least 4 gallon capacity.I have a Senco, made by
>> DeVilbiss I think for portability.
>> mike
>
After all this the grizzle guts units still looks good if you can believe
the figures.....mjh
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
too
> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
and
> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> air flow.
From the looks, it is a belt drive oil lubed unit, so it should be
"relatively" quiet(compared to oil-less ones), and very dependable.
--
Nahmie
The law of intelligent tinkering: save all the parts.
Nice specs but the thing about that machine that I find odd is the
combination of wheels and 220V
How many places can you move this thing to that you will be able to find the
correct recepticle?
"Ollie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am looking for a compressor to be used with sanders, nail guns, and HVLP
> sprayer. The Grizzly model H4519
> (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=H4519) looks almost
too
> good to be true. So, what is the catch? Is it unreliable? Is it too loud?
>
> This compressor delivers 10.9/9.1 CFM at 40/90 PSI with 3 HP under $200
and
> 200 lb. The competitors need 5 HP, over $400 and over 200 lb for the same
> air flow.
>
> Cheers, Ollie
>
>
Greg,
How you would describe the noise level in the CPLC7060V? Some people are
sying that the heavy cast iron compressor is superior over the aluminium
with iron sleeves. What is your experience?
+++ Ollie
> Here is the one I have, specs seem real to me. Ignore the peak HP, running
> is 3 HP, 9.7 SCFM @ 90 PSI.
> http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4701
> I have run a DA sander for hours on end with this compressor, it will keep
> up, just barely! When the sander is running, so is the compressor. The
> only
> time the compressor quits is when I set down the sander!
> The compressor I had before I had for years, long before the "Sears HP"
> ratings came out. It was rated somewhere around 6+ CFM @ 90 PSI, it had a
> real 2 HP 240 volt motor. It would not keep up to the fore mention DA
> sander, but comparing the two compressors, the specs seem realistic to me.
> Greg
>
>