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Tom Watson

10/10/2003 3:01 PM

Norm Nowrecki's Troll Tips

What follows is a quote from a known troll site.

Don't get played like a two dollar banjo.

> The following is the old alt.syntax.tactical (master trollers who make
> it their life's work to destroy as many groups as they can. They
> consider a group destroyed when more than three quarters of the threads
> on a group have been started by them and the group is unusable for
> normal traffic) foundation for the structure, strategy, and protocol of
> simple USENET invasions. I have decided to publish it here because it
> gives good insight on the complexity of a good troll attack. Many of the
> tactics descrived here can be applied, mutatis mutandis to any sort of
> "lone wolf" action you may want to stage on your own. Seekers should
> know all sort of techniques, least they may suddendly need them (or need
> to recognize them) in some obscure corners of the web. * Waves of Invasion
*
> Flames and wars between groups are as old as Usenet. What we try to do
> is in many ways fundamentally different from what is or has been done in
> this area.
> After picking a messageboard, we call for an invasion on that msgbrd.
> There are a number of phases to an invasion. Each person can volunteer
> for which wave they want to be in, but more times than not, it is a
> first come- first served policy. It is always important that no one jump
> the gun and go in before we have time to prepare and bounce ideas off
> each other. It's also important that people don't switch waves without
> letting everyone know. Flexibility is the key, as is communication.
> Typically, we use between two and five Waves of attack. Waves will
> generally break down into this kind of structure:
> a: Reconnaissance (RECON): These people will go in early and usually set
> up camp as "friends of the newsgroup". They will become trusted and
> participate by joining previous discussions or starting non-
> controversial ones themselves. They will also act as "double-agents" to
> counter-flame the other waves as the invasion progresses. They key is
> building a bit of credibility.
> b: Wave One: Wave one will usually be what starts the flame war. Those
> involved in this wave can go on and each have a different flame, or go
> on and flame in unison. They can bring in a subject of their own or
> flame a previous discussion. What matters is that this initial wave will
> be the one that the invaded newsgroup will have their attention on. This
> wave calls for extreme subtlety. The quality of the flame MUST be at its
> highest point here.
> c: Wave Two: Wave Two will consist of tactics to attack the people who
> were sent in as recon and attempt to start totally new flame threads.
> The key here is that even if we attack a group of people restrained
> enough to resist our flame-bait, wave two will stir things up and get
> others to join in.
> d: Wave Three: Wave three will generally change depending on the
> campaign, but will generally be added to push the confusion and chaos
> over the top. Flame the recon, flame the first wave, flame the second
> wave. These guys are our balls out, rude SOB's. Mop up and clean out.
> Sometimes (usually with bigger groups) Wave three will simply be along
> the lines of a wave two. We will call for a wave four (or five) to be
> the balls out routine. We will sometimes add a wave or two because
> depending on the size and intelligence of a newsgroup.
>
> Miscellaneous Tactics:
> There are three other things that we typically use, depending on the
> sophistication of the invasion.
> LOOSE CANNONS are people who come in and act so strange and obtuse that
> it makes the rest of the flames look genuine.
> THE ANON SERVICE can be used to send posts anonymously. This is a good
> way to post and pretend to be scared of retribution. Only problem is
> that this is usually the first sign that a post is a flame, so it should
> only be used with a TREMENDOUS amount of DISCRETION.
> CROSS POSTING is also a popular method of choice by other flame groups,
> so it is important to Cross Post with discretion. If we can cross post
> to bring in other newsgroups to unwittingly assist us, perfect. If we
> cross post to suspicious newsgroups, our intentions will be obvious.
>
> * Victory *
> Ideally, signs of victory are the following:
>
> * Our names appear in killfiles
> * Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by us
> * Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup
> * Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin
> * To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin
>
> * Notes *
> Most important is the need to be SUBTLE when it is required. One
> misplaced post can ruin it for the rest of us. Those of you who have
> participated in widespread flame wars know the feeling of having a
> newsgroup going for a long time, then someone posts an obvious flame or
> something so far out of context, that everyone says to just ignore the
> flames, which eventually includes all of us. Blowing a flame war will
> occasionally happen, but if it could have been avoided with a little
> thinking, then it's not as excusable.
> We've got to share duties. Everyone should get practice playing
> different roles and different waves.
> It has been assumed that if you don't want to participate, fine. No one
> will hold it against you. What is expected is that if you don't want to
> participate you don't have to, but that also means that you wont go
> warning that newsgroup when an invasion happens. You will close your
> eyes and turn a blind eye. NO NEWSGROUP AND NO MESSAGEBOARD IS OFF
> LIMITS!!!!!!
> Another thing many people seem to be talking about are SIGS AND NAMES.
> Try to take on appropriate names. If you are on alt.rap, D.J. Trouble is
> not going to stir things up...if you show up on soc.culture.physics with
> that name, you're caught before your first word of text. If a Sig is
> going to blow your cover, lose it.
>


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson


This topic has 6 replies

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Dave Balderstone

in reply to Tom Watson on 10/10/2003 3:01 PM

11/10/2003 12:31 AM

In article <[email protected]>, A Dog Named
Stain <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just think of what would happen if they put all that effort into finding
> girlfriends.


Damn... Have to clean off the monitor again.

I should know better than to read the wreck with a beer in hand.

djb

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"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

TB

"Thomas Bunetta"

in reply to Tom Watson on 10/10/2003 3:01 PM

11/10/2003 7:54 AM

Once
"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What follows is a quote from a known troll site.
>
> Don't get played like a two dollar banjo.
>
<snipped> Regards, Tom
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
> Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
> http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

Wunce agin I git ter stan in aww of yer magnifisent vocabalary...
And eeegerlie aweight yer finish!
Tom

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Tom Watson on 10/10/2003 3:01 PM

10/10/2003 8:04 PM

There are no girls that are that desperate or ugly..


"A Dog Named Stain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > > * Victory *
> > > Ideally, signs of victory are the following:
> > >
> > > * Our names appear in killfiles
> > > * Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by
> us
> > > * Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup
> > > * Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin
> > > * To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin
>
>
> Just think of what would happen if they put all that effort into finding
> girlfriends.
>
>

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Tom Watson

in reply to Tom Watson on 10/10/2003 3:01 PM

11/10/2003 3:11 PM

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:54:50 -0400, "Thomas Bunetta"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Wunce agin I git ter stan in aww of yer magnifisent vocabalary...
>And eeegerlie aweight yer finish!

OK but I wasn't kidding when I said that was a quote. I didn't write
it.



Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

LG

"Lee Gordon"

in reply to Tom Watson on 10/10/2003 3:01 PM

10/10/2003 7:59 PM

Tom ...

An interesting diatribe. However, I think it might have been written by a
lone troll to make it appear that he had friends.

Lee

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To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

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"A Dog Named Stain"

in reply to Tom Watson on 10/10/2003 3:01 PM

10/10/2003 7:12 PM

> > * Victory *
> > Ideally, signs of victory are the following:
> >
> > * Our names appear in killfiles
> > * Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by
us
> > * Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup
> > * Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin
> > * To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin


Just think of what would happen if they put all that effort into finding
girlfriends.


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