What ideas do you have to help me with this glue up?

"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Dick Snyder wrote:
> ...
>> When you say "cabinet clamps" are you referring to something like my
>> Bessey K body clamps? The thing I like about the band clamp concept is
>> that you get nearly simultaneous pressure in the horizontal and vertical
>> directions to prevent the mitered edges from sliding. This isn't a huge
>> tabletop as you saw from my original posting so I won't have a lot of
>> room for clamps though there is room for two on the horizontal size and
>> two on the vertical side.
>
> Yes. No larger than it is, two on each side will be all you need.
>
> For alignment, the biscuits should put everything pretty much in place and
> keep it close; if the joints are accurate the pressure from the opposing
> sides will bring the four corners together as they are brought together
> gradually. Until completely tight, a judicious mallet tap should be all
> the persuasion required to make a last "tweak" if needed.
>
> --
Yep. That worked fine. Thanks.

Dick

"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Dick Snyder wrote:
>> I am making a table top from 1/2" stock. There is a center rectangle
>> about 11" x 13" made of baltic birch with a veneer on it. There are 4
>> mitered pieces of mahogany that are 2 1/2" wide that surround the
>> rectangle. I will have biscuits to hold the pieces together. The problem
>> I am trying to solve is how to hold it all together during glue up. The
>> band on my band clamp is 1" wide. When I try to pull the table top
>> together with my band clamp, the band wants to pull the sides up. One
>> idea I had was to put a piece of 1/2" plywood under the table top. The
>> dimensions of this plywood would be about 1/16th" less height and width
>> than the table top so the band would pull the tabletop together without
>> being obstructed by the piece underneath. That seems kind of iffy. Do any
>> of you have a better/different idea?
>
> Toss the band clamp and use cabinet clamps instead. If needed, put wax
> paper on top/bottom and use cauls to clamp in plane. But, if the edges
> are square, it shouldn't want to pull out of plane anyway.
>
> --

When you say "cabinet clamps" are you referring to something like my Bessey
K body clamps? The thing I like about the band clamp concept is that you get
nearly simultaneous pressure in the horizontal and vertical directions to
prevent the mitered edges from sliding. This isn't a huge tabletop as you
saw from my original posting so I won't have a lot of room for clamps
though there is room for two on the horizontal size and two on the vertical
side.

Dick Snyder wrote:
> I am making a table top from 1/2" stock. There is a center rectangle about
> 11" x 13" made of baltic birch with a veneer on it. There are 4 mitered
> pieces of mahogany that are 2 1/2" wide that surround the rectangle. I will
> have biscuits to hold the pieces together. The problem I am trying to solve
> is how to hold it all together during glue up. The band on my band clamp is
> 1" wide. When I try to pull the table top together with my band clamp, the
> band wants to pull the sides up. One idea I had was to put a piece of 1/2"
> plywood under the table top. The dimensions of this plywood would be about
> 1/16th" less height and width than the table top so the band would pull the
> tabletop together without being obstructed by the piece underneath. That
> seems kind of iffy. Do any of you have a better/different idea?

Toss the band clamp and use cabinet clamps instead. If needed, put wax
paper on top/bottom and use cauls to clamp in plane. But, if the edges
are square, it shouldn't want to pull out of plane anyway.

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Dick Snyder wrote:
...
> When you say "cabinet clamps" are you referring to something like my Bessey
> K body clamps? The thing I like about the band clamp concept is that you get
> nearly simultaneous pressure in the horizontal and vertical directions to
> prevent the mitered edges from sliding. This isn't a huge tabletop as you
> saw from my original posting so I won't have a lot of room for clamps
> though there is room for two on the horizontal size and two on the vertical
> side.

Yes. No larger than it is, two on each side will be all you need.

For alignment, the biscuits should put everything pretty much in place
and keep it close; if the joints are accurate the pressure from the
opposing sides will bring the four corners together as they are brought
together gradually. Until completely tight, a judicious mallet tap
should be all the persuasion required to make a last "tweak" if needed.

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Dick Snyder wrote:
...
> Yep. That worked fine. Thanks.

Great--glad to hear it.

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