dust collector how'd I live without it

On 21 Oct 2004 12:56:57 -0700, [email protected] (Nate Perkins)
wrote:

>[email protected] (Never Enough Money) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> A dust collection system is the most important thing in your workshop
>> if you have power tools. I bought a odel similar to your -- the 2 hp
>> Jet. It gets stuff down to 10 or 5 microns - I don't recall exactly. I
>> also bought the delta ceiling mount unit that gets down to 1 micron
>> (it does not have pipes to the tools).
>>
>> At my age (50), my respiratory system just can't cope with what it
>> used to could.....
>
>Hello,
>
>I have one of the Delta dust collectors, too, and have been eyeing the
>ceiling-mounted units.
>
>I was curious if you found the ceiling-mounted units to be of much
>benefit in keeping the dust down. How much good do they do?
>
>Cheers,
>Nate

I have one of the JDS units. I use it especially when using a router or
sander where the DC doesn't connect to the tool. It helps clear the air
faster, but I still wear dust masks when sanding because there is still the
time the dust travels from the tool then through the air cleaner.

"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> I always hear hot important DC and filters are for "our" health but
> rarely do I hear anyone singing their prases because they keep the
> shop cleaner and neater ...
>
> Just my opinion...
>
> Bob Griffiths
>
>

That is the only reason I bought mine.
I ingest enough crap at work that I figure the few hours dust a week from
wood dorking is not what will kill me!
The other day I spent a hour hacking my lungs out from crawling around in a
damp, moldy crawl space.
Greg

A dust collection system is the most important thing in your workshop
if you have power tools. I bought a odel similar to your -- the 2 hp
Jet. It gets stuff down to 10 or 5 microns - I don't recall exactly. I
also bought the delta ceiling mount unit that gets down to 1 micron
(it does not have pipes to the tools).

At my age (50), my respiratory system just can't cope with what it
used to could.....



"Mike S." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<_PDdd.8068$q%[email protected]>...
> I received the Delta AP400 dust collector this morning I ordered from
> Amazon. Couldn't wait to get home and play. Usually between the jointer,
> planer and table saw I would usually look like a tree exploded in my shop
> and all over me. SWMBO had me order it, really twisted my arm. She was tired
> of the constant mess. It went together easy and for a test I hooked it to
> the Dewalt 734 planer and ran a few boards through it. Nary a chip on the
> floor. Heading to WoodCraft in St. Louis next week to get the multi machine
> kit to get the rest of the tools hooked up. Can't wait.

It's not as noticable as the other unit but it will freshen the air in
about 30 minutes. I got it because it's the tiny 1 micron particles
that are most hazardous to the lungs. After a day of table sawing and
routing, there will be a thin film of dust on everything but it won't
be nearly as bad as before I had the unit.

I work in a large three car garage. So I really should have two of
these units but you know the story.... there's never enough money.



[email protected] (Nate Perkins) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Never Enough Money) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > A dust collection system is the most important thing in your workshop
> > if you have power tools. I bought a odel similar to your -- the 2 hp
> > Jet. It gets stuff down to 10 or 5 microns - I don't recall exactly. I
> > also bought the delta ceiling mount unit that gets down to 1 micron
> > (it does not have pipes to the tools).
> >
> > At my age (50), my respiratory system just can't cope with what it
> > used to could.....
>
> Hello,
>
> I have one of the Delta dust collectors, too, and have been eyeing the
> ceiling-mounted units.
>
> I was curious if you found the ceiling-mounted units to be of much
> benefit in keeping the dust down. How much good do they do?
>
> Cheers,
> Nate

Good point(s).

Bob G. <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 21 Oct 2004 06:30:28 -0700, [email protected] (Never Enough
> Money) wrote:
>
> >A dust collection system is the most important thing in your workshop
> >if you have power tools. I bought a odel similar to your -- the 2 hp
> >Jet. It gets stuff down to 10 or 5 microns - I don't recall exactly. I
> >also bought the delta ceiling mount unit that gets down to 1 micron
> >(it does not have pipes to the tools).
> >
> >At my age (50), my respiratory system just can't cope with what it
> >used to could.....
> >
> =====================================
> =====================================
>
> Honestly how do you define "Most Important" or Important in what way?
> Walls are important too.
>
> My Dad and Grandfather both were serious woodworkers and neither
> had Dust Collectors in their shop... Both smoked, drank and enjoyed
> life..(wink wink) and both lived to their late 80's...
>
> Like you I installed DC's and air filters in my shop when I was in my
> early 50's.... (I am now 64) But I did NOT install them to save my
> lungs etc... I installed them to have a cleaner and neater
> shop...because I enjoy working in a clean shop and was about to
> have lots of time (close to retirement) to spend relaxing in my shop
>
> I always hear hot important DC and filters are for "our" health but
> rarely do I hear anyone singing their prases because they keep the
> shop cleaner and neater ...
>
> Just my opinion...
>
> Bob Griffiths

"Phil Hansen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, rg327
> [email protected] says...
>
> <snip>
> > I always hear hot important DC and filters are for "our" health but
> > rarely do I hear anyone singing their prases because they keep the
> > shop cleaner and neater ...
> >
> > Just my opinion...
>
> I agree. I run a one man shop and got tired of wading through and
> cleaning up shavings etc, like 6 bags a day.
> The cyclone makes life a lot easier. On the other hand do not have as
> many 'ebony boogers' (lovely description - think it came from Renata)

That's serious Woodworking, when you're crapping wood pellets. I hear they
make good firewood. :)

[email protected] (Never Enough Money) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> A dust collection system is the most important thing in your workshop
> if you have power tools. I bought a odel similar to your -- the 2 hp
> Jet. It gets stuff down to 10 or 5 microns - I don't recall exactly. I
> also bought the delta ceiling mount unit that gets down to 1 micron
> (it does not have pipes to the tools).
>
> At my age (50), my respiratory system just can't cope with what it
> used to could.....

Hello,

I have one of the Delta dust collectors, too, and have been eyeing the
ceiling-mounted units.

I was curious if you found the ceiling-mounted units to be of much
benefit in keeping the dust down. How much good do they do?

Cheers,
Nate

[email protected] (Never Enough Money) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> It's not as noticable as the other unit but it will freshen the air in
> about 30 minutes. I got it because it's the tiny 1 micron particles
> that are most hazardous to the lungs. After a day of table sawing and
> routing, there will be a thin film of dust on everything but it won't
> be nearly as bad as before I had the unit.
>
> I work in a large three car garage. So I really should have two of
> these units but you know the story.... there's never enough money.

Thanks for the feedback. It's very helpful.

In article <[email protected]>, rg327
[email protected] says...

<snip>
> I always hear hot important DC and filters are for "our" health but
> rarely do I hear anyone singing their prases because they keep the
> shop cleaner and neater ...
>
> Just my opinion...

I agree. I run a one man shop and got tired of wading through and
cleaning up shavings etc, like 6 bags a day.
The cyclone makes life a lot easier. On the other hand do not have as
many 'ebony boogers' (lovely description - think it came from Renata)
--

Phillip Hansen
Skil-Phil Solutions
To reply change the 'past' to the 'future'

"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > I always hear hot important DC and filters are for "our" health but
> > rarely do I hear anyone singing their prases because they keep the
> > shop cleaner and neater ...
> >
> > Just my opinion...
> >
> > Bob Griffiths
> >
> >
>
> That is the only reason I bought mine.
> I ingest enough crap at work that I figure the few hours dust a week from
> wood dorking is not what will kill me!
> The other day I spent a hour hacking my lungs out from crawling around in a
> damp, moldy crawl space.
> Greg


Problem is, it will be the combination that will likely get you. All
these hazards--added together over a few years with the wood dust from
power tools--eventually will play havoc with your(my, our)lungs. We
didn't evolve in dusty, moldy shop/crawl spaces (might be the same
place for some of us--:), so our lungs don't have the capacity to fend
off these insults on a sustained daily basis. It's just not wise to be
all macho about this.

By all means, let's work in clean shops, but keeping our lungs clean
is a priority--I hear you can get replacements, but they cost a mint
and come used.

Dan

.
>
>By all means, let's work in clean shops, but keeping our lungs clean
>is a priority--I hear you can get replacements, but they cost a mint
>and come used.
>
>Dan
====================

I hear you Dan..

But in my case the number 1 priority was a cleaner shop....Any health
benifits I achive by using the dust collector is an added plus...

Any yes I do appreciate the health benifits.... but not nearly as much
as I appreciate the pure pleasure of having a neat and clean shop in
which to unwind...

Bob Griffiths

On 21 Oct 2004 06:30:28 -0700, [email protected] (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

>A dust collection system is the most important thing in your workshop
>if you have power tools. I bought a odel similar to your -- the 2 hp
>Jet. It gets stuff down to 10 or 5 microns - I don't recall exactly. I
>also bought the delta ceiling mount unit that gets down to 1 micron
>(it does not have pipes to the tools).
>
>At my age (50), my respiratory system just can't cope with what it
>used to could.....
>
=====================================
=====================================

Honestly how do you define "Most Important" or Important in what way?
Walls are important too.

My Dad and Grandfather both were serious woodworkers and neither
had Dust Collectors in their shop... Both smoked, drank and enjoyed
life..(wink wink) and both lived to their late 80's...

Like you I installed DC's and air filters in my shop when I was in my
early 50's.... (I am now 64) But I did NOT install them to save my
lungs etc... I installed them to have a cleaner and neater
shop...because I enjoy working in a clean shop and was about to
have lots of time (close to retirement) to spend relaxing in my shop

I always hear hot important DC and filters are for "our" health but
rarely do I hear anyone singing their prases because they keep the
shop cleaner and neater ...

Just my opinion...

Bob Griffiths