I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
based product.
I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this item I am
aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this country.
Thanks
Bob Robertson
On May 6, 4:43 am, "Bob Robertson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
> based product.
> I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
> the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
> certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
> Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this item I am
> aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this country.
> Thanks
> Bob Robertson
I have heard of ww's who place their tools in hermedically sealed
chests and put in sticks of chalk (the mineral calcite, a form of
limestone) (White Cliffs of Dover) as a desicant. You can also dust
your hands with rosin (baseball pitchers rub up their hands with it)
This will keep hand moisture from the tools. This advice is free to
the user and is guaranteed or your money back.
Joe G
On May 6, 9:46 am, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Say What?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:Lwk%[email protected]...
>
> > Not sure but he may have been referring to the old machinist's trick of
> > leaving camphor blocks (with pin pricks through the wrapper) in their
> > tool chests. Vapors preventing rusting. Worked quite well. Only
> > problem is that it's getting damn hard to find camphor blocks any more.
>
> A Google search showed a number of sources.
CW,
Your method would also discourage moths from eating your chisels,
Joe G
On May 6, 1:54 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 6 May 2007 09:26:17 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Your method would also discourage moths from eating your chisels,
>
> If I ever run across a moth that can eat a chisel, I'm calling the Men
> in Black.
Camphor....*barfs*
I absolutely farking hate the smell of that farking stuff....blech to
the n-th degree...disgusting.
Sun, May 6, 2007, 8:43am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Bob=A0Robertson) doth query:
I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
based product. <snip>
OK, what do you mean by no oil-based product? No mineral oil? No
vegetable oil? Any oil period? What? And why?
And, by corrosion, you mean rust? Or what? There are spray, or
brush-on, products that stop rust by converting it to something (iron
oxide?). I'm not sure if they contain any oil of any type or not, think
not, but then I don't care.
JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan
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from "Bob Robertson" <[email protected]> contains these words:
> I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
> based product.
> I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
> the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
> certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
> Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this item I am
> aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this country.
> Thanks
> Bob Robertson
Not quite your request but Record in teh UK do a dry spray for use on
their cast iron saw tables - its a silicone spray but is completely dry
after application - not used this but spoken to oien of their
demonstrators about it.
RS Components (Web site rswww.com) do carry a number of vapour
inhibitors, link to their web site for these:
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBrowseAction.do?obs=sObs&name=SiteStandard&No=0&N=0&Ntk=I18NAll&Ntt=corrosion%20inhibitor&Nty=1&D=corrosion%20inhibitor&Ntx=mode%20matchpartial&Dx=mode%20matchpartial&callingPage=/jsp/search/search.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@0478292133.1178564181@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceaddklgghdkkcefeceeldgkidhgl.0&cacheID=ukie&Nr=avl:uk
Hope this helps,
Bryan
Bryan McCormick wrote:
> Not quite your request but Record in teh UK do a dry spray for use on
> their cast iron saw tables - its a silicone spray but is completely dry
> after application - not used this but spoken to oien of their
> demonstrators about it.
You really don't want silicone anywhere near woodworking projects...it
can do bad things to the finish.
Chris
On 6 May 2007 09:26:17 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
>Your method would also discourage moths from eating your chisels,
If I ever run across a moth that can eat a chisel, I'm calling the Men
in Black.
"Say What?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Lwk%[email protected]...
> Not sure but he may have been referring to the old machinist's trick of
> leaving camphor blocks (with pin pricks through the wrapper) in their
> tool chests. Vapors preventing rusting. Worked quite well. Only
> problem is that it's getting damn hard to find camphor blocks any more.
>
>
A Google search showed a number of sources.
B A R R Y wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2007 08:43:13 GMT, "Bob Robertson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
>> based product.
>> I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
>> the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
>> certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
>
> Lee Valley sells tins of Silica Gel.
Not sure but he may have been referring to the old machinist's trick of
leaving camphor blocks (with pin pricks through the wrapper) in their
tool chests. Vapors preventing rusting. Worked quite well. Only
problem is that it's getting damn hard to find camphor blocks any more.
Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote in
news:jWh%[email protected]:
> Bob Robertson wrote:
>> I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an
>> oil based product.
>> I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a
>> magnet on the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit
>> corrosion within a certain area of the tin for about 6months to a
>> year. Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this
>> item I am aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this
>> country. Thanks
>> Bob Robertson
>>
>>
> I am not aware of the Bull Frog range. Camphor used to be
> used for this purpose, in an enclosed space such as a tool
> chest.
Camphor is used to keep moths away from woollen materials. Moth larvae
need to eat. Not sure how good woollen tools would be.
> Also Silica gel is used. It sucks up the moisture
> from the air so could be used in an enclosed space. A hobby
> shop catering to dried flower enthusiasts should have it.
>
> For large tools or those hanging on the wall, anything that
> keeps moisture and oxygen from the surface would help. That
> includes paint, lacquer, camellia oil and plain oil. Gold
> plating helps, but wears off quickly in tools that are used.
>
--
Best regards
Han
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 18:33:01 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Iron Butterfly.
I've got K, J, and Zed on speed dial... <G>
"GROVER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On May 6, 9:46 am, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Say What?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:Lwk%[email protected]...
>>
>> > Not sure but he may have been referring to the old machinist's trick of
>> > leaving camphor blocks (with pin pricks through the wrapper) in their
>> > tool chests. Vapors preventing rusting. Worked quite well. Only
>> > problem is that it's getting damn hard to find camphor blocks any more.
>>
>> A Google search showed a number of sources.
>
> CW,
> Your method would also discourage moths from eating your chisels,
I can attest to that... never had moths in my tool chest. My father was a
tool and die maker back in the 50s and 60s. When he changed roles in the
company he brought his tool box home and camphor came with it. The camphor
was replaced as needed over the years. I figured if it worked for him it
would work for me...
John
Bob Robertson wrote:
> I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
> based product.
> I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
> the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
> certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
> Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this item I am
> aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this country.
> Thanks
> Bob Robertson
>
>
I am not aware of the Bull Frog range. Camphor used to be
used for this purpose, in an enclosed space such as a tool
chest. Also Silica gel is used. It sucks up the moisture
from the air so could be used in an enclosed space. A hobby
shop catering to dried flower enthusiasts should have it.
For large tools or those hanging on the wall, anything that
keeps moisture and oxygen from the surface would help. That
includes paint, lacquer, camellia oil and plain oil. Gold
plating helps, but wears off quickly in tools that are used.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
The Universe is a big place . . .
perhaps the biggest.
On Sun, 06 May 2007 08:43:13 GMT, "Bob Robertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
>based product.
>I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
>the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
>certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
>Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this item I am
>aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this country.
>Thanks
>Bob Robertson
>
The cheapest way is to wipe your tools with a rag mositened with
kerosene which will remove light rust as well. I know you don't want
to do this, but it is fast and easy. Your other choice is to put all
your tools in cabinets or air-tight containers with a dessicant.
Several pieces of caulk will work.
On Sun, 06 May 2007 08:43:13 GMT, "Bob Robertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
>based product.
>I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet on
>the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
>certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
Lee Valley sells tins of Silica Gel.
Iron Butterfly.
"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 6 May 2007 09:26:17 -0700, GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Your method would also discourage moths from eating your chisels,
>
> If I ever run across a moth that can eat a chisel, I'm calling the Men
> in Black.
do a Google search for volatile corrosion inhibitors. There are many
companies that supply paper impregnated with volatile amines which are
corrosion inhibitors for ferrous metals.
You have probably bought some polished tools that came wrapped in this type
of paper. Also available are stick on tabs which contain impregnated blotter
paper.
One problem with this approach is that it only works in enclosed spaces, IE.
a drawer or inside a closed cabinet.
Our company supplies the Akzo product for out of service pipelines and
storage tanks. It works for these applications. I brought home some of
this and put a chemical soaked rag in my tool chest. I am not very good at
tightly closing all drawers and doors before going to bed and so on the
humid Gulf Coast I would not rate my test as a great success.
If you are more fastidious than I, it might work for you.
Paul Gilbert
"Bob Robertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Byg%[email protected]...
>I want to stop corrosion problems on my tools without the use of an oil
>based product.
> I am in th United Kingdom and seem to remember a small tin with a magnet
> on the back which when the tin was opened would inhibit corrosion within a
> certain area of the tin for about 6months to a year.
> Does anyone out there know where in the UK I can purchase this item I am
> aware of the Bull Frog range overseas but not in this country.
> Thanks
> Bob Robertson
>