KW

"Keith Williams"

07/08/2006 7:21 PM

Where can I find this mechanism

Hi,

I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:

http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm

Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made mechanism"?

Thanks,

Keith


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"bremen68"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

08/08/2006 12:28 PM

> You might want to ask your kid for his input before you get too
> involved. If I was your kid I'd think that would be a major PITA after
> about the first two days. I know I'd have hated a bed like that.
>
> Think about making the kid a loft bed instead. I bet he'd like
> that a whole lot more, and he'd get a bigger bed to boot. Way cooler
> and a lot les gimmicky.

> JOAT
> Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

JOAT has a good point. I think a loft bed might be a better investment
of time and energy.

I'm curious how smoothly the bed goes up and down... Let the bed drop
hard a few times and you'll be giving the stuff on the desk a nice
little bounce. Computer's are rather notorious for not liking that
kind of treatment.

It's a cool gimick for a bed, but not one I think will meet
expectations down the road. But hey, that's just my 2 pennies worth.

di

"drifwood"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

09/08/2006 2:07 PM

Keith Williams wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:
>
> http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm
>
> Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made mechanism"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith

Hi

I used to work for Murphy Wall Beds of Canada in Richmond, British
Columbia, Canada. They are the distributor for a similar type of
mechanism. When I worked there (more than 10 yrs ago now) they were
selling the mechanisms and hardware for something in the order of US
$350 IIRC. They were also developing a network of dealers in Canada and
the US.

I looked up the phone# for you: 604-248-1452

Obligatory disclaimer - I am no longer associated with this company.

JJ

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

08/08/2006 4:47 AM

Mon, Aug 7, 2006, 7:21pm [email protected] (Keith=A0Williams)
coth claimeth:
Hi,
I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:
http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm
Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made mechanism"?

You might want to ask your kid for his input before you get too
involved. If I was your kid I'd think that would be a major PITA after
about the first two days. I know I'd have hated a bed like that.

Think about making the kid a loft bed instead. I bet he'd like
that a whole lot more, and he'd get a bigger bed to boot. Way cooler
and a lot les gimmicky.



JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal

KW

"Keith Williams"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

07/08/2006 11:27 PM

First, Thank you for your reply!

> If you study the drawings and animated clip closely you will find that it
> would be very simple to construct the hinges yourself out of plate metal.

I agree that the hinge mechanism itself is not that difficult to reproduce.

However, if you look closely it appears that the slides that the back of the
bed slides/pivots on may have a spring or other assist method. Even if
there is not assist mechanisim, the path that back of the bed follows and
then locks (both up and down?) is not a simple straight line.

While it would be fun to re-engineer this design, I unfortunately do not
have enough hours in the day to take it on right now. I thought that if I
could buy the mechanism off-the-shelf I could definitely find the time to
'cut the wood' and build one up.

Thanks for looking.

Keith

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

08/08/2006 3:04 AM

Keith Williams wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:
>
> http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm
>
> Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made mechanism"?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith

If you study the drawings and animated clip closely you will find that it
would be very simple to construct the hinges yourself out of plate metal.

The disc(round) hinge for example is actually stationary and the leverage
is performed with the wooden uprising arm ie a hole in the wood with
probably a metal pivot bush implemented into the wood hole so as not to
cause friction(hole becoming weak in continued use.
The rest is just metal bars acting as hinges again with more metal pivots
driven into the wood.

Piece of cake really if you have the tools to work with metal and wood. ;-)

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite


TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

08/08/2006 3:25 AM


"The3rd Earl Of Derby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Keith Williams wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:
>>
>> http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm
>>
>> Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made mechanism"?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Keith
>
> If you study the drawings and animated clip closely you will find that it
> would be very simple to construct the hinges yourself out of plate metal.
>
> The disc(round) hinge for example is actually stationary and the leverage
> is performed with the wooden uprising arm ie a hole in the wood with
> probably a metal pivot bush implemented into the wood hole so as not to
> cause friction(hole becoming weak in continued use.
> The rest is just metal bars acting as hinges again with more metal pivots
> driven into the wood.
>
Where is the animated clip?!

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

08/08/2006 4:02 AM

Leuf wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:27:55 -0400, "Keith Williams"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> First, Thank you for your reply!
>>
>>> If you study the drawings and animated clip closely you will find
>>> that it would be very simple to construct the hinges yourself out
>>> of plate metal.
>>
>> I agree that the hinge mechanism itself is not that difficult to
>> reproduce.
>>
>> However, if you look closely it appears that the slides that the
>> back of the bed slides/pivots on may have a spring or other assist
>> method. Even if there is not assist mechanisim, the path that back
>> of the bed follows and then locks (both up and down?) is not a
>> simple straight line.
>>
>> While it would be fun to re-engineer this design, I unfortunately do
>> not have enough hours in the day to take it on right now. I thought
>> that if I could buy the mechanism off-the-shelf I could definitely
>> find the time to 'cut the wood' and build one up.
>
> They've probably just taken Murphy bed hardware and reworked it to add
> in the desk part. So you can probably buy the regular hardware and
> make it work.
>
>
> -Leuf

The up&down riser spring is probably a pneumatic type? pic halfway down the
page.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?Offerings_ID=9&TabSelect=Details&cookiet
est=1
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite


Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

07/08/2006 11:54 PM

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:27:55 -0400, "Keith Williams"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>First, Thank you for your reply!
>
>> If you study the drawings and animated clip closely you will find that it
>> would be very simple to construct the hinges yourself out of plate metal.
>
>I agree that the hinge mechanism itself is not that difficult to reproduce.
>
>However, if you look closely it appears that the slides that the back of the
>bed slides/pivots on may have a spring or other assist method. Even if
>there is not assist mechanisim, the path that back of the bed follows and
>then locks (both up and down?) is not a simple straight line.
>
>While it would be fun to re-engineer this design, I unfortunately do not
>have enough hours in the day to take it on right now. I thought that if I
>could buy the mechanism off-the-shelf I could definitely find the time to
>'cut the wood' and build one up.

They've probably just taken Murphy bed hardware and reworked it to add
in the desk part. So you can probably buy the regular hardware and
make it work.


-Leuf

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

08/08/2006 3:29 AM

Toller wrote:
> "The3rd Earl Of Derby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Keith Williams wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:
>>>
>>> http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made
>>> mechanism"?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>
>> If you study the drawings and animated clip closely you will find
>> that it would be very simple to construct the hinges yourself out of
>> plate metal.
>>
>> The disc(round) hinge for example is actually stationary and the
>> leverage is performed with the wooden uprising arm ie a hole in the
>> wood with probably a metal pivot bush implemented into the wood hole
>> so as not to cause friction(hole becoming weak in continued use.
>> The rest is just metal bars acting as hinges again with more metal
>> pivots driven into the wood.
>>
> Where is the animated clip?!

Well if you cant see it, then your browser is not properly configured?

Top right,bed closing and opening.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite


KW

"Keith Williams"

in reply to "Keith Williams" on 07/08/2006 7:21 PM

09/08/2006 7:39 PM

Thank You, I'll follow-up with them.

Keith






"drifwood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Keith Williams wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would love to build one of these beds for my son's room:
> >
> > http://www.flyingbeds.com/14.Euro_BunkBed/Euro-ComputerBed.htm
> >
> > Does anyone know where I could purchase the "European made mechanism"?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Keith
>
> Hi
>
> I used to work for Murphy Wall Beds of Canada in Richmond, British
> Columbia, Canada. They are the distributor for a similar type of
> mechanism. When I worked there (more than 10 yrs ago now) they were
> selling the mechanisms and hardware for something in the order of US
> $350 IIRC. They were also developing a network of dealers in Canada and
> the US.
>
> I looked up the phone# for you: 604-248-1452
>
> Obligatory disclaimer - I am no longer associated with this company.
>


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