Hi all,
I'm needing some more advice on thickness planing. I'm in my early
projects stage after inheriting tools from my father.
My plans call for 1 1/4" boards. When I went to the wood store I found
some poplar (2 1/8" actual size) for $2.70 / board foot. The only
other wood available in poplar was I think 3/4", too thin for what I
need. So I bought 2 boards 8' boards thinking of running them thru the
thickness planer.
After a bit of thought on my way home, I realized I'm going to attempt
to plane off 3/4" each board... seems like a lot of planing. So I
located another wood source that quoted me $1.86/board foot and had 6/4
in stock. Grrrrrr.... I regret not further investigating an
alternative source.
My questions are:
1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
2) Can I realistically get 1 1/4" out of 6/4 lumber should I purchase
it?
If I had something in mind to use the 2+ " lumber I have then I'd hang
on to it for another project. I'm not sure what to do!
> After a bit of thought on my way home, I realized I'm going to attempt
> to plane off 3/4" each board... seems like a lot of planing.
Sure does! That's what resawing is for. Do you have a bandsaw, or do
you know where you could borrow or hire one?
> 2) Can I realistically get 1 1/4" out of 6/4 lumber should I purchase
> it?
That's what I'd do. Would it be a big deal if it comes out to 1 3/16"
thick after planing?
Andy
Brian wrote:
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
> Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
Your best bet is to resaw it on a bandsaw. If you don't have a bandsaw,
why not try posting where you are located and see if someone in your
area would be willing to saw the boards for you.
I know that if a fellow woodworker in my area (Pittsburgh, PA) wanted
to stop by with, oh, I don't know, maybe a cold six pack... I'd be more
than happy to cut a few boards.
Mike
Thanks guys for the replies. I'll check and see if I can locate a band
saw. I'm in small town Stillwater, OK so if there are any pokes in the
area that would work (get it.. would work!!?) I'd like to hear!
So with that option pending, if I can't find a band saw then would it
be best to use the thickness planer for the whole job or take off a
1/2" or so with the jointer first? Or does it matter?
Thank you!! --Brian
Mike wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > My questions are:
> >
> > 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
> > Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
>
> Your best bet is to resaw it on a bandsaw. If you don't have a bandsaw,
> why not try posting where you are located and see if someone in your
> area would be willing to saw the boards for you.
>
> I know that if a fellow woodworker in my area (Pittsburgh, PA) wanted
> to stop by with, oh, I don't know, maybe a cold six pack... I'd be more
> than happy to cut a few boards.
>
> Mike
Brian wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm needing some more advice on thickness planing. I'm in my early
> projects stage after inheriting tools from my father.
>
> My plans call for 1 1/4" boards. When I went to the wood store I found
> some poplar (2 1/8" actual size) for $2.70 / board foot. The only
> other wood available in poplar was I think 3/4", too thin for what I
> need. So I bought 2 boards 8' boards thinking of running them thru the
> thickness planer.
>
> After a bit of thought on my way home, I realized I'm going to attempt
> to plane off 3/4" each board... seems like a lot of planing. So I
> located another wood source that quoted me $1.86/board foot and had 6/4
> in stock. Grrrrrr.... I regret not further investigating an
> alternative source.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
> Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
No, you can literally do thousands of passes on a decent planer with no
appreciable wear.
>
> 2) Can I realistically get 1 1/4" out of 6/4 lumber should I purchase
> it?
Maybe, depending on how straight, flat and square the boards are and
how much the actual thickness is. Bring a rule and a sharp eye to the
yard.
Generally speaking you should try to buy your lumber as close to the
finish dimensions as possible, with just enough extra material to dress
out the invariable cup, twist, crook, etc. It really helps to go to a
hardwood dealer who understands how to properly store wood. ( Big box
home centers are terrible for this )
>
> If I had something in mind to use the 2+ " lumber I have then I'd hang
> on to it for another project. I'm not sure what to do!
I would definitely not want to plane down 2 1/8 to 1 1/4 and not just
because of the waste and work. When you remove that much stock from a
piece of wood you run the risk of relieving internal stresses that
might induce twists, cups and crooks into your previously straight,
flat and square wood. When you get down to the dimension you want you
might find the piece unusable. Poplar is pretty stable and might
tolerate this but avoid the whole problem if you can.
Paul
The Woodworking Gods will not be pleased if you turn 3/4" of wood into
shavings just to get to some arbitrary thickness. You should buy
something closer to your final thickness, or glue up two thinner
boards, or re-saw to salvage what you can.
DonkeyHody
"Anything that's worth cuttin' down a tree for
Is worth doin' right; don't the Lord love a two-by-four?" - Guy Clark
in "Carpenter"
Thanks for the suggestions! I like the table saw idea. I need to rip
my 1st board in half anyway so I should only be working with a ~5"
board.
J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:14:30 -0800, Brian wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys for the replies. I'll check and see if I can locate a band
> > saw. I'm in small town Stillwater, OK so if there are any pokes in the
> > area that would work (get it.. would work!!?) I'd like to hear!
> >
> > So with that option pending, if I can't find a band saw then would it
> > be best to use the thickness planer for the whole job or take off a
> > 1/2" or so with the jointer first? Or does it matter?
>
> Really depends on whether you'd rather sharpen/replace your jointer blades
> or your planer blades.
>
> If it's narrow enough to go on your jointer then flatten one side with the
> jointer then plane the other to get the thickness. Take small bites and
> slow down as you approach the finished dimension--you'll get a cleaner
> surface in my experience several 1/64" passes than with one 1/16.
>
> > Thank you!! --Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike wrote:
> >> Brian wrote:
> >> > My questions are:
> >> >
> >> > 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
> >> > Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
> >>
> >> Your best bet is to resaw it on a bandsaw. If you don't have a bandsaw,
> >> why not try posting where you are located and see if someone in your
> >> area would be willing to saw the boards for you.
> >>
> >> I know that if a fellow woodworker in my area (Pittsburgh, PA) wanted
> >> to stop by with, oh, I don't know, maybe a cold six pack... I'd be more
> >> than happy to cut a few boards.
> >>
> >> Mike
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:57:32 -0800, Brian wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm needing some more advice on thickness planing. I'm in my early
> projects stage after inheriting tools from my father.
>
> My plans call for 1 1/4" boards. When I went to the wood store I found
> some poplar (2 1/8" actual size) for $2.70 / board foot. The only
> other wood available in poplar was I think 3/4", too thin for what I
> need. So I bought 2 boards 8' boards thinking of running them thru the
> thickness planer.
>
> After a bit of thought on my way home, I realized I'm going to attempt
> to plane off 3/4" each board... seems like a lot of planing. So I
> located another wood source that quoted me $1.86/board foot and had 6/4
> in stock. Grrrrrr.... I regret not further investigating an
> alternative source.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
> Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
Well, yeah, you're going to put more wear on it than otherwise, but unless
you've got miles of this stuff I wouldn't worry about it.
You'll cut down on waste if you can saw it to 1-3/8 or 1-1/2 first.
> 2) Can I realistically get 1 1/4" out of 6/4 lumber should I purchase
> it?
Yes.
> If I had something in mind to use the 2+ " lumber I have then I'd hang
> on to it for another project. I'm not sure what to do!
Well, think of something.
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:14:30 -0800, Brian wrote:
> Thanks guys for the replies. I'll check and see if I can locate a band
> saw. I'm in small town Stillwater, OK so if there are any pokes in the
> area that would work (get it.. would work!!?) I'd like to hear!
>
> So with that option pending, if I can't find a band saw then would it
> be best to use the thickness planer for the whole job or take off a
> 1/2" or so with the jointer first? Or does it matter?
Really depends on whether you'd rather sharpen/replace your jointer blades
or your planer blades.
If it's narrow enough to go on your jointer then flatten one side with the
jointer then plane the other to get the thickness. Take small bites and
slow down as you approach the finished dimension--you'll get a cleaner
surface in my experience several 1/64" passes than with one 1/16.
> Thank you!! --Brian
>
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>> Brian wrote:
>> > My questions are:
>> >
>> > 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
>> > Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
>>
>> Your best bet is to resaw it on a bandsaw. If you don't have a bandsaw,
>> why not try posting where you are located and see if someone in your
>> area would be willing to saw the boards for you.
>>
>> I know that if a fellow woodworker in my area (Pittsburgh, PA) wanted
>> to stop by with, oh, I don't know, maybe a cold six pack... I'd be more
>> than happy to cut a few boards.
>>
>> Mike
If you are unable to find a band saw you can try this.
Use your table saw make several passes to cut to the maximum depth of your
saw on both edges. Then set you saw to cut away the waste. This will leave
you with a ridge down the center which can be planed off I have had to do
this several time it is not the best but does work, I would give myself
1/8-1/4" forgiveness room.
Joe
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> Hi all,
>
> I'm needing some more advice on thickness planing. I'm in my early
> projects stage after inheriting tools from my father.
>
> My plans call for 1 1/4" boards. When I went to the wood store I found
> some poplar (2 1/8" actual size) for $2.70 / board foot. The only
> other wood available in poplar was I think 3/4", too thin for what I
> need. So I bought 2 boards 8' boards thinking of running them thru the
> thickness planer.
>
> After a bit of thought on my way home, I realized I'm going to attempt
> to plane off 3/4" each board... seems like a lot of planing. So I
> located another wood source that quoted me $1.86/board foot and had 6/4
> in stock. Grrrrrr.... I regret not further investigating an
> alternative source.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Am I going to be putting a lot of unneccesary excessive wear on my
> Delta 22-540 thickness planer taking that much wood off?
>
> 2) Can I realistically get 1 1/4" out of 6/4 lumber should I purchase
> it?
>
> If I had something in mind to use the 2+ " lumber I have then I'd hang
> on to it for another project. I'm not sure what to do!
>