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31/03/2006 4:10 PM

Proper pallet disposal?

At work here we get many wooden pallets in that have to
be disposed of after awhile

We are paying a local farmer to dispose of them and I
know for a fact he is just taking them and either
burning them on his ground or throwing them in a ditch

Does anyone know if this constitutes proper pallet
disposal in the state of Missouri?


This topic has 14 replies

LL

"Lawrence L'Hote"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 7:37 PM


"couillion" <couillion@no_spam_mail.net> wrote in message
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>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> At work here we get many wooden pallets in that have to
>> be disposed of after awhile
>>
>> We are paying a local farmer to dispose of them and I
>> know for a fact he is just taking them and either
>> burning them on his ground or throwing them in a ditch
>>
>> Does anyone know if this constitutes proper pallet
>> disposal in the state of Missouri?
>
> start here, http://www.dnr.mo.gov/env/hwp/index.html
>
> and hope that there is a written agreement between the waste generating
> company A and waste disposal company B.


I would say your company and the farmer could get into deep dodo over this.
Oscar Meyer makes 30% of it's hot dogs at a local plant. They were
disposing of the casings by dumping them at a local farm.. They were then
covered with dirt but not to the satisfaction of MO Dept or Nat'l
Resources... my son was a heavy equipment operator with the company that
got the $650,000 job of covering the wiener casings properly.... guess who
paid the bill????

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 5:42 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> "Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Is
> >this something that actually affects you personally, or are you just REALLY
> >REALLY concerned that the wood is being discarded in a "ditch"?
>
> I'm really concerned they are being thrown in a ditch
>
> These pallets come form a chrome plating facility with
> chrome residue and potential acids on them

If you're concerned about the environmental aspect of the disposal, why
are you paying a farmer to dispose of them? There are waste management
companies that will obviously cost you more money, but they'll dispose
of things the proper way.

R

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 8:36 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Is
> >this something that actually affects you personally, or are you just
REALLY
> >REALLY concerned that the wood is being discarded in a "ditch"?
>
> I'm really concerned they are being thrown in a ditch
>
> These pallets come form a chrome plating facility with
> chrome residue and potential acids on them

Well then I suspect one of two things...

I suspect your company has an obligation (under some law or regulatory
commission) to dispose of them per some already established and approved
method. If there is a hazardous waste issue at hand then you're already
regulated - you need to check into the regulations.

-or-

I suspect that your concern is something of a ruse.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 2:02 AM

"Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> writes:
>If, indeed, you "know for a fact" that he is burning them or disposing of
>them improperly, you should turn him in to the state health department.

Even if he was burning them/disposing improperly, it is not the
farmers fault, the OP's employer is at fault for not using a
certified hazardous waste disposal facility.

scott

JD

John DeBoo

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 4:54 PM

RicodJour wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>"Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is
>>>this something that actually affects you personally, or are you just REALLY
>>>REALLY concerned that the wood is being discarded in a "ditch"?
>>
>>I'm really concerned they are being thrown in a ditch
>>
>>These pallets come form a chrome plating facility with
>>chrome residue and potential acids on them
>
>
> If you're concerned about the environmental aspect of the disposal, why
> are you paying a farmer to dispose of them? There are waste management
> companies that will obviously cost you more money, but they'll dispose
> of things the proper way.

Amen, what the hell would someone expext a farmer to do with them anyway
if the concern is environmental?

l

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 11:02 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>At work here we get many wooden pallets in that have to
>be disposed of after awhile
>
>We are paying a local farmer to dispose of them and I
>know for a fact he is just taking them and either
>burning them on his ground or throwing them in a ditch
>
>Does anyone know if this constitutes proper pallet
>disposal in the state of Missouri?

Yes, someone knows.

--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 4:20 AM

I agree. And the idea is that the State Health Dept will discover where
farmer Brown is getting his pallets and proceed accordingly. Farmer Brown is
the small fish and quite likely to expose the company involved to cut
himself a deal.


"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> writes:
>>If, indeed, you "know for a fact" that he is burning them or disposing of
>>them improperly, you should turn him in to the state health department.
>
> Even if he was burning them/disposing improperly, it is not the
> farmers fault, the OP's employer is at fault for not using a
> certified hazardous waste disposal facility.
>
> scott
>

Sl

"Shopdog"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 12:11 AM

Ok, Well that I can understand, I would want metal residue leaching into my
ground water either.

Searcher

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

01/04/2006 1:10 AM

If, indeed, you "know for a fact" that he is burning them or disposing of
them improperly, you should turn him in to the state health department.

Do you have pictures? Witnesses? Other non-controvertible proof?


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At work here we get many wooden pallets in that have to
> be disposed of after awhile
>
> We are paying a local farmer to dispose of them and I
> know for a fact he is just taking them and either
> burning them on his ground or throwing them in a ditch
>
> Does anyone know if this constitutes proper pallet
> disposal in the state of Missouri?

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 8:28 PM

Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>If, indeed, you "know for a fact" that he is burning them or disposing of
>>them improperly, you should turn him in to the state health department.
>
>
> Even if he was burning them/disposing improperly, it is not the
> farmers fault, the OP's employer is at fault for not using a
> certified hazardous waste disposal facility.

That's probably why his post headers have been so very well cleaned.

er
--
email not valid

Sl

"Shopdog"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 10:20 PM

Around here (PA) we have many people that use pallets to heat their homes.
They have an outdoor furnace that is large enough to slide wooden pallets
into. Google it and I am sure something will come up. So it is possible that
this is what is happening, Or, he could be tearing them apart and using the
wood for chicken houses feed boxes, the choices are endless actually, Is
this something that actually affects you personally, or are you just REALLY
REALLY concerned that the wood is being discarded in a "ditch"?

Searcher

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 11:08 PM

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:20:59 GMT, "Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Around here (PA) we have many people that use pallets to heat their homes.

I burn 'em in my chimenea on my deck.

m

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 4:36 PM

"Shopdog" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is
>this something that actually affects you personally, or are you just REALLY
>REALLY concerned that the wood is being discarded in a "ditch"?

I'm really concerned they are being thrown in a ditch

These pallets come form a chrome plating facility with
chrome residue and potential acids on them

cc

"couillion"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/03/2006 4:10 PM

31/03/2006 11:17 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At work here we get many wooden pallets in that have to
> be disposed of after awhile
>
> We are paying a local farmer to dispose of them and I
> know for a fact he is just taking them and either
> burning them on his ground or throwing them in a ditch
>
> Does anyone know if this constitutes proper pallet
> disposal in the state of Missouri?

start here, http://www.dnr.mo.gov/env/hwp/index.html

and hope that there is a written agreement between the waste
generating company A and waste disposal company B.



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