Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci.
She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
socializing and obedience training begins...
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn¹t.
John Gierach
In article <[email protected]>, tiredofspam
wrote:
> Nice... How big is she?
Haven't weighed her yet. But she's 2 foot + at the shoulder.
>
> Good luck with her.
No luck, I hope. Lots of work, instead.
She's got a great personality but really hasn't been taught what's
expected of her. It's going to be fun. She took me for a 90 minute walk
this evening and one of us was exhausted at the end of it. <g>
--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn¹t.
John Gierach
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The important thing is to impress on her FROM THE START that YOU are
> the "top dog". If she ever gets the drop on you, you are in a heap of
> trouble. Pyrennes are GREAT dogs - but VERY strong characters. Nephew
> has one -took some real training but now she's great.
Ayup. She's definitely headstrong, but wants to please. Training will
be good for both of us. Fortunately I know a terrific trainer, just
waiting to find out if she can fit us in.
--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn¹t.
John Gierach
In article <[email protected]>, BobS <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nice chair you got for her....:-)
She can damn near step over it. SWMBO said "she's much bigger in our
house than she was at the shelter!"
--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn¹t.
John Gierach
In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH <[email protected]>
wrote:
> That's a great looking doggie so why was she at the pound so long??
She a big dog, and not well trained. No fault of hers. Only one
accident indoors, my fault for not catching her cues. Both of us have
lots to learn.
We're getting along well, 24 hours later, of which about 5 was spent on
walks. Today I got a Halty, which will save these poor old arms from
being ripped out of their sockets.
Big snowfall today, She loves rolling in the fresh powder.
> PS: pay attention to her socializing and obedience lessons :)
Damn straight.
djb
--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn¹t.
John Gierach
In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
insurance for accident and illness.
In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
<[email protected]> wrote:
> This whole time, I'm seeing the list of replies to this subject line and
> I'm thinking,
> "Let me see what all this talk is about some new workbench clamping
> devices." :-)
Shop dog, not bench dog. <g>
Although she'd fit on my bench...
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
> > Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself,
> >> don't get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
> >
> > She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
> > for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
> > food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
> > insurance for accident and illness.
>
> Wow - it's no wonder animals sit in adoption centers for so long with
> adoption fees that high.
>
> As for the crate... what self respecting woodworker would not have built his
> own? Out of Ipe, or someother suitably nice wood for a new doggie, domino
> joinery (good reason to call Leon and order a new Domino...), and a
> handrubbed finish, of course.
A good dog house is on the list. She loves the outdoors. Looking
forward to taking her ice fishing soon.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, Dave
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:07:50 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> >As for the crate... what self respecting woodworker would not have built his
> >own? Out of Ipe, or someother suitably nice wood for a new doggie, domino
> >joinery (good reason to call Leon and order a new Domino...), and a
> >handrubbed finish, of course.
>
> Know you're joking, but you'd need a metal crate for most dogs. They'd
> chew their way out of anything else.
A brother had a shepherd/coyote cross. Buck chewed and clawed his way
through a plaster and lath wall. Both sides.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>,
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> Speaking of building, but not a cage for indoors, I made this dog house for a
> friend's shelter dog, that also quickly learned her places and limits when
> inside:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4035185439/in/photostream
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4035792174/in/photostream
> There's been a little chewing on the posts, but I don't mind going visit and
> repair these.
Nice, but impractical in our winters... I'm shooting for at least R40
when I build hers.
But she does love gamboling in the snow.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
> news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>
> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
> > get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>
> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
> insurance for accident and illness.
> =====================================================================
> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather than
> find new homes for them.
On the contrary. The shelter here will keep a dog until they are
adopted. They also take animals from other shelters in the province
when those are full.
The only dogs they euthanize are those that have been so abused they
are vicious, without hope of rehabilitation.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:30:23 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence,
> >> $250 for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug,
> >> bag of food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet
> >> health insurance for accident and illness.
> >> =====================================================================
> >
> >> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
> >> than find new homes for them.
> >
> > That doesn't make any sense at all. Adoption fee, licensing and yearly
> > licensing renewal on top of that. Initial supplies ~ all of these
> > things are revenue makers.
> >
> > It makes more sense to promote adoption so they can profit from that
> > revenue stream.
>
> The price surprised me and seemed like a lot to me, but I don't think it's
> very profitable for them. Most adoption services that I am aware of,
> operate on a shoestring budget - relying on donations beyond their fees.
> The key word being "relying".
Maybe it's high compared to some other jurisdictions, but it includes
all shots being up to date, microchipping, a paid vet checkup (we're
going Friday), spay and/or neuter if required, and 6 weeks of pet
health insurance.
Try and do all that for just over $200.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, dadiOH <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
> > On the contrary. The shelter here will keep a dog until they are
> > adopted. They also take animals from other shelters in the province
> > when those are full.
> >
> > The only dogs they euthanize are those that have been so abused they
> > are vicious, without hope of rehabilitation.
>
> My kind of place. Is it a national organization? As far as I know there
> are no "no kill" shelters here and I'd like to know of one just in case.
I think they are provincial organizations under the SPCA banner here in
Canuckistan.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
> >
> > Maybe it's high compared to some other jurisdictions, but it includes
> > all shots being up to date, microchipping, a paid vet checkup (we're
> > going Friday), spay and/or neuter if required, and 6 weeks of pet
> > health insurance.
> >
> > Try and do all that for just over $200.
>
> I guess it's all in what you're used to. My wife took in kittens for a long
> time, under a foster parent program through a local adoption agency. They
> reimbursed the foster parents for all food costs (we never took any
> reimbursement), provided all of the shots, provided spay and neuter
> services, and then adoped out the kittens for free or some foolish fee like
> $50 (or something like that). We never got into the dog program - just the
> cats.
The SPCA here does foster placements for dogs that have behavioural
issues to deal with until they get settled enough to be adopted. Not
sure about the cats.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Bottom line is, people are going to look at that price and go get a puppy
> out of the newspaper for free to $25.00. Say you go to two different car
> lots and look at the same car. One of them is priced way higher than the
> other. When asked why his price is so high, he says it's to make sure you
> really want it. You'd buy the expensive one, right?
And yet our SPCA always seems to find homes for the animals they take
in, even with the fees where they are.
That's fact. You have any to support your opinion?
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds like a personal problem.
CW, it seems to me that your posts have seen a definite decline in
civility and sense in recent times. Is there an underlying medical
issue we should take into account when we read them?
I'm not being a smartass, I am quite serious.
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
> news:051220122052584648%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>
> In article <[email protected]>, CW
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like a personal problem.
>
> CW, it seems to me that your posts have seen a definite decline in
> civility and sense in recent times. Is there an underlying medical
> issue we should take into account when we read them?
>
> I'm not being a smartass, I am quite serious.
>
> Yes, there actually is but no one should have to take that into
> consideration. You're right, I should stay off here for a while. On the
> upside, I have my knee replaced Christmas eve. I haven't been this excited
> about Christmas since I was a kid. Last step in a year and a half recovery.
> Dave, thanks for the concern and the reminder I'm being a pain in the ....
>
I hope all goes well. Sounds like a great Christmas gift!
--
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx
Well, it's my understanding, that most good dogs, with a little patience an=
d training, will soon learn some routine, including what a safe kennel/cage=
place is, similarly as learning that a mat/bed in a "favorite" spot is a l=
imit to their wanderings. =20
I once had a golden retriever and black lab and would bring them inside whe=
n it got cold and/or on other occassions. They quickly learned their place=
s and limits, when inside. I've seen this with other dogss, as well, so I =
would expect Kaci to become just as obedient.... after all, she's in good h=
ands.
Speaking of building, but not a cage for indoors, I made this dog house for=
a friend's shelter dog, that also quickly learned her places and limits wh=
en inside:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4035185439/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4035792174/in/photostream
There's been a little chewing on the posts, but I don't mind going visit an=
d repair these.
I'll vote: Kaci and Dave got/will have the best of the adoption deal, all r=
ound!
Sonny
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:30:23 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
>for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
>food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
>insurance for accident and illness.
>=====================================================================
>At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather than
>find new homes for them.
That doesn't make any sense at all. Adoption fee, licensing and yearly
licensing renewal on top of that. Initial supplies ~ all of these
things are revenue makers.
It makes more sense to promote adoption so they can profit from that
revenue stream.
On Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:39:54 PM UTC-6, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci. =
She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The socializi=
ng and obedience training begins... <http://www.flickr.com/photos/baldersto=
ne/8236646398/in/photostream> -- I used to like fishing because I thought i=
t had some larger significance. Now I like fishing because it=B9s the one t=
hing I can think of that probably doesn=B9t. =AD John Gierach
Nice looking puppy. Makes me want to search for another companion.
Sonny
On 12/01/2012 06:39 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci.
>
> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
> socializing and obedience training begins...
>
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>
That, sir, is one handsome critter... the one on the right, I mean.
The other critter is, well, a bit dodgy ;)
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"Dave Balderstone" wrote:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
> Kaci.
>
> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
> socializing and obedience training begins...
>
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
-----------------------------------------------------
Great looking pooch. Congratulations.
Lew
On 12/3/2012 8:49 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:07:50 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> As for the crate... what self respecting woodworker would not have built his
>> own? Out of Ipe, or someother suitably nice wood for a new doggie, domino
>> joinery (good reason to call Leon and order a new Domino...), and a
>> handrubbed finish, of course.
>
> Know you're joking, but you'd need a metal crate for most dogs. They'd
> chew their way out of anything else.
>
Actually I don't recommend a metal crate.
My dog had one and hated it. He broke a tooth opening it, not the door,
he squeezed his way through the top and sides... he maneuvered it enough.
Anyway most dogs like the close off feel, its secure. The plastic
kennels give them that. Mine preferred it.
I eventually stopped crating him. He doesn't like, or need it.
He's pretty good. Separation anxiety, but he is not spiteful.
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:10:21 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Dave
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:07:50 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> >As for the crate... what self respecting woodworker would not have built his
>> >own? Out of Ipe, or someother suitably nice wood for a new doggie, domino
>> >joinery (good reason to call Leon and order a new Domino...), and a
>> >handrubbed finish, of course.
>>
>> Know you're joking, but you'd need a metal crate for most dogs. They'd
>> chew their way out of anything else.
>
>A brother had a shepherd/coyote cross. Buck chewed and clawed his way
>through a plaster and lath wall. Both sides.
I guess "had" was the right word.
P.S: What'd the girl look like when the coyote woke up with his arm
under her?
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
On 12/3/2012 12:43 PM, Sonny wrote:
> Well, it's my understanding, that most good dogs, with a little patience and training, will soon learn some routine, including what a safe kennel/cage place is, similarly as learning that a mat/bed in a "favorite" spot is a limit to their wanderings.
>
> I once had a golden retriever and black lab and would bring them inside when it got cold and/or on other occassions. They quickly learned their places and limits, when inside. I've seen this with other dogss, as well, so I would expect Kaci to become just as obedient.... after all, she's in good hands.
>
> Speaking of building, but not a cage for indoors, I made this dog house for a friend's shelter dog, that also quickly learned her places and limits when inside:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4035185439/in/photostream
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4035792174/in/photostream
> There's been a little chewing on the posts, but I don't mind going visit and repair these.
>
> I'll vote: Kaci and Dave got/will have the best of the adoption deal, all round!
>
> Sonny
>
That dog looks exactly like my dog.
And I agree, my dog has a few beds around the house. One in the shop
area, and one in my bedroom, and another in the family room. That's
where he goes when we are there or when he wants to rest.
"-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On 12/3/12 7:18 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 12/3/12 4:30 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
>> news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>>
>> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
>> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>>
>> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
>> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
>> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
>> insurance for accident and illness.
>> =====================================================================
>> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
>> than find new homes for them.
>
>
> Bullshit.
> ==================================================
> No, not at all.
>
With all that evidence you presented, how can I argue.
Oh, that's right, I've fostered over 100 animals through shelters,
dealing closely with them, learning the financial strains they are under
and learning about the people they deal with trying to adopt animals who
end up bringing them back, etc, etc, etc.
==========================================================================
Sounds like a personal problem.
"-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On 12/3/12 4:30 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
> news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>
> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>
> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
> insurance for accident and illness.
> =====================================================================
> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
> than find new homes for them.
Bullshit.
==================================================
No, not at all.
Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
Martin
On 12/2/2012 8:52 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
>> Kaci.
>>
>> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
>> socializing and obedience training begins...
>>
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>
>
> That's a great looking doggie so why was she at the pound so long??
>
> PS: pay attention to her socializing and obedience lessons :)
>
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/2/12 9:45 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article
>> <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
>> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or
>>> yourself,
>>> don't get a dog for free. It is like another kid.
>>> Medical and all.
>>
>> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a
>> licence,
>> $250 for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls,
>> rope tug,
>> bag of food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6
>> weeks of pet
>> health insurance for accident and illness.
>>
>
> This whole time, I'm seeing the list of replies to this
> subject line
> and I'm thinking,
> "Let me see what all this talk is about some new workbench
> clamping
> devices." :-)
I'm not even going to say what I thought the "Blue Wood"
thread was about<g>
"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
news:051220122052584648%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds like a personal problem.
CW, it seems to me that your posts have seen a definite decline in
civility and sense in recent times. Is there an underlying medical
issue we should take into account when we read them?
I'm not being a smartass, I am quite serious.
Yes, there actually is but no one should have to take that into
consideration. You're right, I should stay off here for a while. On the
upside, I have my knee replaced Christmas eve. I haven't been this excited
about Christmas since I was a kid. Last step in a year and a half recovery.
Dave, thanks for the concern and the reminder I'm being a pain in the ....
On 12/1/2012 8:28 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 02 Dec 2012 01:17:33 GMT, "-Steve-" <rendar~at~cheerful~dot~com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in
>> news:011220121839542183%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca:
>>
>>> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
>> Kaci.
>>>
>>> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
>>> socializing and obedience training begins...
>>>
>>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>>>
>>
>> That's a fine lookin' pup ya got there!!
>
> Does he always sit on the floor and pet you, Steve?
>
> --
> Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
> -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
>
Try to keep up Larry, Dave has the pup not Steve. ;~)
Bottom line is, people are going to look at that price and go get a puppy
out of the newspaper for free to $25.00. Say you go to two different car
lots and look at the same car. One of them is priced way higher than the
other. When asked why his price is so high, he says it's to make sure you
really want it. You'd buy the expensive one, right?
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in
news:011220121839542183%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
Kaci.
>
> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
> socializing and obedience training begins...
>
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>
That's a fine lookin' pup ya got there!!
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in
news:011220121839542183%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci.
>
> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
> socializing and obedience training begins...
>
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
+1!
--
Best regards
Han
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"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On the
> upside, I have my knee replaced Christmas eve. I haven't been this
> excited about Christmas since I was a kid. Last step in a year and a
> half recovery. Dave, thanks for the concern and the reminder I'm being
> a pain in the ....
Best of luck, and do take the rehabilitation VERY seriously ...
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in 1543273 20121203 034518 Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
>Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>
>She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
>for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
>food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
>insurance for accident and illness.
It'll be worth every penny.
On 02 Dec 2012 01:17:33 GMT, "-Steve-" <rendar~at~cheerful~dot~com>
wrote:
>Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in
>news:011220121839542183%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca:
>
>> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
>Kaci.
>>
>> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
>> socializing and obedience training begins...
>>
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>>
>
>That's a fine lookin' pup ya got there!!
Does he always sit on the floor and pet you, Steve?
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"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
insurance for accident and illness.
=====================================================================
At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather than
find new homes for them.
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 16:45:49 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Dave Balderstone" wrote:
>
>> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
>> Kaci.
>>
>> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
>> socializing and obedience training begins...
>>
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Great looking pooch. Congratulations.
>
>Lew
>
>
The important thing is to impress on her FROM THE START that YOU are
the "top dog". If she ever gets the drop on you, you are in a heap of
trouble. Pyrennes are GREAT dogs - but VERY strong characters. Nephew
has one -took some real training but now she's great.
On 12/1/2012 7:39 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci.
>
> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
> socializing and obedience training begins...
>
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
>
Nice... How big is she?
Good luck with her.
"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
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Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci.
She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
socializing and obedience training begins...
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
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On 12/5/2012 11:47 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
> news:051220122052584648%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>
> In article <[email protected]>, CW
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a personal problem.
>
> CW, it seems to me that your posts have seen a definite decline in
> civility and sense in recent times. Is there an underlying medical
> issue we should take into account when we read them?
>
> I'm not being a smartass, I am quite serious.
>
> Yes, there actually is but no one should have to take that into
> consideration. You're right, I should stay off here for a while. On the
> upside, I have my knee replaced Christmas eve. I haven't been this
> excited about Christmas since I was a kid. Last step in a year and a
> half recovery. Dave, thanks for the concern and the reminder I'm being a
> pain in the ....
Hope you have a recovery as fast as my neighbors. She was home in 3
days and walking around.
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:07:50 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>As for the crate... what self respecting woodworker would not have built his
>own? Out of Ipe, or someother suitably nice wood for a new doggie, domino
>joinery (good reason to call Leon and order a new Domino...), and a
>handrubbed finish, of course.
Know you're joking, but you'd need a metal crate for most dogs. They'd
chew their way out of anything else.
Nice chair you got for her....:-)
BobS
"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
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Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of Kaci.
She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
socializing and obedience training begins...
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
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Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably
doesn¹t.
John Gierach
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Just brought her home from the SPCA. Great Pyrenees cross. Name of
> Kaci.
>
> She'd been at the pound 131 days, and is about 13 months old. The
> socializing and obedience training begins...
>
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/balderstone/8236646398/in/photostream>
That's a great looking doggie so why was she at the pound so long??
PS: pay attention to her socializing and obedience lessons :)
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On 12/2/12 9:45 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>
> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
> insurance for accident and illness.
>
This whole time, I'm seeing the list of replies to this subject line and
I'm thinking,
"Let me see what all this talk is about some new workbench clamping
devices." :-)
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself,
>> don't get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>
> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
> insurance for accident and illness.
Wow - it's no wonder animals sit in adoption centers for so long with
adoption fees that high.
As for the crate... what self respecting woodworker would not have built his
own? Out of Ipe, or someother suitably nice wood for a new doggie, domino
joinery (good reason to call Leon and order a new Domino...), and a
handrubbed finish, of course.
--
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[email protected]
On 12/3/12 1:13 AM, ChairMan wrote:
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This whole time, I'm seeing the list of replies to this
>> subject line
>> and I'm thinking,
>> "Let me see what all this talk is about some new workbench
>> clamping
>> devices." :-)
>
> I'm not even going to say what I thought the "Blue Wood"
> thread was about<g>
>
+1
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On 12/3/12 4:30 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
> news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>
> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>
> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
> insurance for accident and illness.
> =====================================================================
> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
> than find new homes for them.
Bullshit.
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On 12/3/12 7:18 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 12/3/12 4:30 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
>> news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>>
>> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
>> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>>
>> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
>> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
>> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
>> insurance for accident and illness.
>> =====================================================================
>> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
>> than find new homes for them.
>
>
> Bullshit.
> ==================================================
> No, not at all.
>
With all that evidence you presented, how can I argue.
Oh, that's right, I've fostered over 100 animals through shelters,
dealing closely with them, learning the financial strains they are under
and learning about the people they deal with trying to adopt animals who
end up bringing them back, etc, etc, etc.
Now, what were you saying again? Oh that's right... nothing. Just blind
speculation, otherwise know as... hmmm where have I heard this before?
Oh that's tight, bullshit.
Thanks for playing.
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Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:30:23 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence,
>> $250 for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug,
>> bag of food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet
>> health insurance for accident and illness.
>> =====================================================================
>
>> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
>> than find new homes for them.
>
> That doesn't make any sense at all. Adoption fee, licensing and yearly
> licensing renewal on top of that. Initial supplies ~ all of these
> things are revenue makers.
>
> It makes more sense to promote adoption so they can profit from that
> revenue stream.
The price surprised me and seemed like a lot to me, but I don't think it's
very profitable for them. Most adoption services that I am aware of,
operate on a shoestring budget - relying on donations beyond their fees.
The key word being "relying".
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
> Maybe it's high compared to some other jurisdictions, but it includes
> all shots being up to date, microchipping, a paid vet checkup (we're
> going Friday), spay and/or neuter if required, and 6 weeks of pet
> health insurance.
>
> Try and do all that for just over $200.
I guess it's all in what you're used to. My wife took in kittens for a long
time, under a foster parent program through a local adoption agency. They
reimbursed the foster parents for all food costs (we never took any
reimbursement), provided all of the shots, provided spay and neuter
services, and then adoped out the kittens for free or some foolish fee like
$50 (or something like that). We never got into the dog program - just the
cats.
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On 12/4/12 9:55 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
>>
>> Maybe it's high compared to some other jurisdictions, but it includes
>> all shots being up to date, microchipping, a paid vet checkup (we're
>> going Friday), spay and/or neuter if required, and 6 weeks of pet
>> health insurance.
>>
>> Try and do all that for just over $200.
>
> I guess it's all in what you're used to. My wife took in kittens for a long
> time, under a foster parent program through a local adoption agency. They
> reimbursed the foster parents for all food costs (we never took any
> reimbursement), provided all of the shots, provided spay and neuter
> services, and then adoped out the kittens for free or some foolish fee like
> $50 (or something like that). We never got into the dog program - just the
> cats.
>
The simple answer is cats are less expensive than dogs.
Shelters generally have cats at 10:1 to dogs. Things like medicine and
microchips are cheaper in bulk. Cat's are much easier/cheaper to
spay/neuter, etc, etc.
Shelters have also found, from experience, a correlation between the
number of returned animals to the expense of the fee for adoption. The
lower the fee, the more likely it is the pet will be returned to them.
Human nature, people don't value what doesn't cost them.
They can weed out a lot of "impulse adopters" by simply charging any
amount to begin with. They can weed out many returns by charging
something higher. Most, as you say, are on a shoe-string budget. In the
spring when cats breed like rabbits :-), you see cheaper adoption fees.
Most shelters who do this are losing money and just hoping they don't
get as many returned, this time around.
Bottom line is, ol' CW was spouting ignorance.
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On 12/4/2012 12:20 PM, CW wrote:
>
> Bottom line is, people are going to look at that price and go get a
> puppy out of the newspaper for free to $25.00. Say you go to two
> different car lots and look at the same car. One of them is priced way
> higher than the other. When asked why his price is so high, he says it's
> to make sure you really want it. You'd buy the expensive one, right?
>
>
>
>
>
the free dog from the paper doesn't come with the added amenities (6
weeks health insurance, free vet visit, free spaying/neutering, etc).
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> On the contrary. The shelter here will keep a dog until they are
> adopted. They also take animals from other shelters in the province
> when those are full.
>
> The only dogs they euthanize are those that have been so abused they
> are vicious, without hope of rehabilitation.
My kind of place. Is it a national organization? As far as I know there
are no "no kill" shelters here and I'd like to know of one just in case.
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On 12/4/12 1:20 PM, CW wrote:
>
> Bottom line is, people are going to look at that price and go get a
> puppy out of the newspaper for free to $25.00. Say you go to two
> different car lots and look at the same car. One of them is priced way
> higher than the other. When asked why his price is so high, he says it's
> to make sure you really want it. You'd buy the expensive one, right?
>
What the fu@k does that have to do with you saying they'd rather kill
the dogs than adopt them out?
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On 12/4/12 2:06 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 12/3/12 7:18 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> On 12/3/12 4:30 PM, CW wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
>>> news:021220122145183403%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
>>>
>>> In article <H0Vus.793310$%[email protected]>,
>>> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Big dogs eat. If you can't afford food for the kid, or yourself, don't
>>>> get a dog for free. It is like another kid. Medical and all.
>>>
>>> She definitely wasn't free. $238 adoption fee, $15 for a licence, $250
>>> for a crate big enough for her, plus a Halty, bowls, rope tug, bag of
>>> food... BUT: Free vet checkup on Friday, and 6 weeks of pet health
>>> insurance for accident and illness.
>>> =====================================================================
>>> At those prices, it is obvious that they rather put them down rather
>>> than find new homes for them.
>>
>>
>> Bullshit.
>> ==================================================
>> No, not at all.
>>
>
> With all that evidence you presented, how can I argue.
>
> Oh, that's right, I've fostered over 100 animals through shelters,
> dealing closely with them, learning the financial strains they are under
> and learning about the people they deal with trying to adopt animals who
> end up bringing them back, etc, etc, etc.
> ==========================================================================
> Sounds like a personal problem.
So, what you're saying is, you have nothing to back up your bullshit,
ignorant spouting off. Yeah, I thought so.
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On 12/5/2012 9:12 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:51:27 PM UTC-6, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>>> .... The other critter is, well, a bit dodgy ;)
>
> Probably needs some training.
Yep, definitely wouldn't let him on the rugs ...
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