Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
option?
I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
Thanks. Paul P
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:26:17 GMT, "PAUL KETTERER" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Since water based finishes cause considerable grain rise, I sand the piece
>with 220 grit, remove all dust from the surface, then apply the stain with a
>brush or staining pad. After drying, I brush on the first coat of Super
>Poly, let it dry overnight, and lightly hand sand with a fine grit foam
>sanding pad to remove the grain rise. After cleaning off the dust I recoat
>with Super Poly.
Paul, you don't wet the piece with water, let this dry, sand the
raised grain before finishing? This is what I've done with WB aniline
dyes and WB Poly and there was very little sanding do to other than
scuff sanding afterward. I learned this from someone who takes his
pieces out in the yard and hoses them down.
Sanding off the raised grain before finishing supposedly keeps you
from sanding off some of the color (if you're staining or dyeing). I
wouldn't know, this is the only way I've done it and it worked for me.
YMMV
TWS
"PEP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
> I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
> not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
> option?
>
> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
I have used Hydrocote with pretty good success. Highland Hardware carries
it.
SH
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:07 -0500, "firstjois"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>PEP wrote:
>>> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
>>> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry
>>> boxes I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax
>>> Polycrylic, but not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please
>>> recommend another option?
>>>
>>> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
>>> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>>>
>>> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Paul P
>
>Some of the guys here recommend shellac for indoor safe use. Probably
>wouldn't be a bad choice for boxes that would not be roughly used.
>
>What didn't you like about Minwax Polycrylic? I've used it on indoor
>furniture and floor cloths and liked it. But I like a matte or less a than
>satin finish on a lot of things.
>
>Josie
>
It did produce a nice finish after I rubbed it out, but I didn't
expect to have to spray on four coats - on top of a coat of sanding
sealer - to get it to fill the grain on my walnut piece.
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:07 -0500, "firstjois"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>PEP wrote:
>>> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
>>> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry
>>> boxes I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax
>>> Polycrylic, but not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please
>>> recommend another option?
>>>
>>> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
>>> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>>>
>>> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Paul P
>
>Some of the guys here recommend shellac for indoor safe use. Probably
>wouldn't be a bad choice for boxes that would not be roughly used.
>
>What didn't you like about Minwax Polycrylic? I've used it on indoor
>furniture and floor cloths and liked it. But I like a matte or less a than
>satin finish on a lot of things.
>
>Josie
>
It did produce a nice finish after I rubbed it out, but I didn't
expect to have to spray on four coats - on top of a coat of sanding
sealer - to get it to fill the grain on my walnut piece.
Hi Paul'
Worth a look. JG
http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/
PEP wrote:
> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
> I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
> not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
> option?
>
> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>
> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>
> Thanks. Paul P
http://hoodfinishing.com/
You should use their Hydrocote Resistane for your project. Also you should
consider the Amber Additive to tint the finish with. The solvent used IIRC
is the same type of solvent used floor cleaners you buy at the store.
There is some out gassing when finished but when dry there is no noticeable
smell. Resistane can be brushed on, but spraying works best. Sand to 220
prior to application and 330 between coats. If necessary buff with a grey
scotchbrite pad after finishing using a bit of the premixed/ready to spray
"Murphy's Oil Soap" for lubricant.
--
Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"PEP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
> I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
> not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
> option?
>
> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>
> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>
> Thanks. Paul P
I have used only water based finishes in my basement shop for the past 7
years. After trying many different stains and clear finishes, I find that I
get the best results with Behr Eurocolour water based wood stain, and
Carver-Tripp Safe-and Simple Super Poly. The Eurocolour stains are mostly
dye based, with a small amount of pigment, and thus do not hide the grain of
the wood. They dry quickly, can be blended to get the desired color, and I
have even thinned them with Behr water based pre-stain and wood conditioner
to lighten the color. The Carver-Trip Super Poly is self leveling, goes on
in nice thin coats, and dries quickly so it can be recoated in as little as
2 hours. I usually use 2 or 3 coats of gloss and a final coat of satin
finish to give a nice deep, non glossy finish.
Since water based finishes cause considerable grain rise, I sand the piece
with 220 grit, remove all dust from the surface, then apply the stain with a
brush or staining pad. After drying, I brush on the first coat of Super
Poly, let it dry overnight, and lightly hand sand with a fine grit foam
sanding pad to remove the grain rise. After cleaning off the dust I recoat
with Super Poly. Depending on the wood, I may or may not hand sand between
subsequent coats. I have used these products on red and white oak, maple,
cherry, and Honduran and African mahogany with good results. I hope this
helps.
Paul Ketterer
"PEP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
> I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
> not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
> option?
>
> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>
> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>
> Thanks. Paul P
>Since water based finishes cause considerable grain rise,
Perhaps your 1 st coat of finish is too thick.
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Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"PAUL KETTERER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JwJod.4596$K36.2201@trndny03...
> I have used only water based finishes in my basement shop for the past 7
> years. After trying many different stains and clear finishes, I find that
I
> get the best results with Behr Eurocolour water based wood stain, and
> Carver-Tripp Safe-and Simple Super Poly. The Eurocolour stains are mostly
> dye based, with a small amount of pigment, and thus do not hide the grain
of
> the wood. They dry quickly, can be blended to get the desired color, and
I
> have even thinned them with Behr water based pre-stain and wood
conditioner
> to lighten the color. The Carver-Trip Super Poly is self leveling, goes
on
> in nice thin coats, and dries quickly so it can be recoated in as little
as
> 2 hours. I usually use 2 or 3 coats of gloss and a final coat of satin
> finish to give a nice deep, non glossy finish.
>
> Since water based finishes cause considerable grain rise, I sand the piece
> with 220 grit, remove all dust from the surface, then apply the stain with
a
> brush or staining pad. After drying, I brush on the first coat of Super
> Poly, let it dry overnight, and lightly hand sand with a fine grit foam
> sanding pad to remove the grain rise. After cleaning off the dust I
recoat
> with Super Poly. Depending on the wood, I may or may not hand sand
between
> subsequent coats. I have used these products on red and white oak, maple,
> cherry, and Honduran and African mahogany with good results. I hope this
> helps.
> Paul Ketterer
>
>
> "PEP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
> > an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
> > I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
> > not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
> > option?
> >
> > I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
> > know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
> >
> > I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
> >
> > Thanks. Paul P
>
>
"PEP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry boxes
> I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax Polycrylic, but
> not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please recommend another
> option?
>
> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>
> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>
> Thanks. Paul P
PEP wrote:
>> Now that the heating season is upon us here in the NE I have to find
>> an odorless, non-toxic finish I can use indoors for some jewelry
>> boxes I'm building for Christmas gifts. I've tried Minwax
>> Polycrylic, but not entirely satisfied with it. Will someone please
>> recommend another option?
>>
>> I've read some in this newsgroup use Hydrocote finishes, but don't
>> know which one would apply, or, where to purchase them.
>>
>> I'm using red oak for some boxes and cherry/walnut on others.
>>
>> Thanks. Paul P
Some of the guys here recommend shellac for indoor safe use. Probably
wouldn't be a bad choice for boxes that would not be roughly used.
What didn't you like about Minwax Polycrylic? I've used it on indoor
furniture and floor cloths and liked it. But I like a matte or less a than
satin finish on a lot of things.
Josie