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"dadiOH"

04/01/2016 3:20 PM

rotary tool collets

I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few days
ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it off to Dremel
to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent back another one -
probably refurbished - which I didn't much care for...slide switch to vary
speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial, bearings less than stellar (made
afair amount of noise. They charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is
about what the wholesale was on a new one.

I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight since I
have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I have
numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank sizes that I would like
to keep using, have collets for all. My question is, does anyone know -
KNOW - if the Dremel collets are useable in the HF tool?

Thanks.


This topic has 18 replies

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

06/01/2016 12:15 AM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

*snip*

> I have a friend that taught me how to build models at a top level. He
> went through many dremels. He built full time, so they were used a
> lot, but he abused them all the time. I don't stall mine, he always
> pushed hard to the stalling point. I never understood that, I let the
> tool cut, I bog it slightly so it is not burning up the bit, but I
> let it cut.
>

One thing I remember from reading the Dremel manual all those years ago was
the basic theory of operation: Don't push, let the speed of the tool do
the work.

Puckdropper

nn

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 10:35 AM

Many years ago I burned up a Dremel after a satisfactory amount of work doi=
ng carving and polishing. I bought another, and it wasn't as well made and=
didn't last well, either. So I bought a rotary from HF. It was cheap, di=
dn't last that long, but I felt like I got my money's worth out of it. How=
ever, I was <<<really annoyed>>> when it died, and was even more annoyed I =
had to stop working on my project because it simply quit.

I mentioned that to a guy that I know that does a lot of woodcarving, and h=
e put me onto the Black and Decker RTX. Maybe I got a good one, I don't kn=
ow. But it is about 20 years old and runs like it did when it was new. I =
used it a couple of weeks ago to polish out and burnish the edge of a knife=
with some metal polish and it is still as strong as the day I got it.

The hardest work day this tool had was to cut about 250 roofing nails off t=
hat punched through 1/2" plywood decking. It burned a lot of grinding whee=
ls up, but not the tool for that all day and a half job.

http://goo.gl/CuVY8f

So what I am saying is that I would split the difference on the price of th=
e Dremel and the HF, and get what I think is a better tool. And yes, all t=
he Dremel bits (anything with 1/8" shank) will fit the Black and Decker.

Just my 0.02.

Robert



Ll

Leon

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 9:11 AM

On 1/4/2016 2:20 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few days
> ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it off to Dremel
> to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent back another one -
> probably refurbished - which I didn't much care for...slide switch to vary
> speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial, bearings less than stellar (made
> afair amount of noise. They charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is
> about what the wholesale was on a new one.
>
> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight since I
> have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I have
> numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank sizes that I would like
> to keep using, have collets for all. My question is, does anyone know -
> KNOW - if the Dremel collets are useable in the HF tool?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

Leaving emotions out of the decision making, I think I would buy another
Dremel with the features you like. UNLESS of course you simply don't
like any of the models.

I have had a Dremel rotary tool since 1981. Cheap and gets hot quick
when use on full speed. BUT my son bought an accessory kit for it about
6 years ago. All of the accessories fit that 35 year old unit.

And in the last few years I have replaced the Wrench collet with a
finger tighten collet for a few dollars.

Which model did they send you? Most all I see on the web site still
have a rotary speed dial with a slide for quick replacement of accessories.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 6:59 PM

On 1/5/2016 4:08 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 1/4/2016 2:20 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>>> was on a new one. I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at
>>> Harbor Freight
>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I
>>> have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>>> useable in the HF tool? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Leaving emotions out of the decision making, I think I would buy
>> another Dremel with the features you like. UNLESS of course you
>> simply don't like any of the models.
>
> I just don't like Dremel. Two reasons...
>
> 1. They were less (WAY less) than customer oriented when I returned the
> the one for repair.
>
> 2. I think they are way overpriced. Especially the "accessories".
>
>>
>> I have had a Dremel rotary tool since 1981. Cheap and gets hot quick
>> when use on full speed. BUT my son bought an accessory kit for it
>> about 6 years ago. All of the accessories fit that 35 year old unit.
>>
>> And in the last few years I have replaced the Wrench collet with a
>> finger tighten collet for a few dollars.
>>
>> Which model did they send you? Most all I see on the web site still
>> have a rotary speed dial with a slide for quick replacement of
>> accessories.
>
> No idea which model, probably no longer made. The one they sent has a
> sliding switch for on/off/speed. Don't like it. it was sent to Dremel
> heaven (trash) a few days ago so I can't look up for the model number.
>
>
>

I would miss mine if it went. I have an old model with ball bearings.
It's probably 45 years old, I had it when I was a kid and was building
models. I have used and abused it. No speed control, but I added an
external speed control, my dad thought it said 10 amps and had me buy an
expensive motor controller. It was really 1.0 amps.

I had to resolder the brush holder to the lead. It broke off twice. I
assume from heat or poor design originally.

I have a friend that taught me how to build models at a top level. He
went through many dremels. He built full time, so they were used a lot,
but he abused them all the time. I don't stall mine, he always pushed
hard to the stalling point. I never understood that, I let the tool cut,
I bog it slightly so it is not burning up the bit, but I let it cut.

--
Jeff

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

04/01/2016 6:28 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few days
> ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it off to Dremel
> to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent back another one -
> probably refurbished - which I didn't much care for...slide switch to vary
> speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial, bearings less than stellar (made
> afair amount of noise. They charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is
> about what the wholesale was on a new one.
>
> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight since I
> have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I have
> numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank sizes that I would like
> to keep using, have collets for all. My question is, does anyone know -
> KNOW - if the Dremel collets are useable in the HF tool?
>
> Thanks.

I don't know about the electric tools but I've used Dremel collets in
their miniature air grinder.

On

OFWW

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 4:17 PM

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:11:17 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>OFWW wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>>> was on a new one.
>>>
>>> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>>> However, I have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>>> useable in the HF tool?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> I bought their "add on" kit with buffer wheels, grinding wheels and so
>> on, and they all fit my Dremel that has the1-5 slide for speed
>> control. The brushes or something internal is giving be speed
>> problems, so it is either slow or fast depending on whether it is
>> having a good day or not.
>>
>> So I imagine they're the same. I've looked at some of theirs in person
>> and a few models are hardly bigger than the palm of my hand. So be
>> choosy about which model you get. If you do please post your thoughts
>> since I'm in the market for one as well.
>
>I bought their corded, variable speed one, $24.95. The Dremel collets are a
>smidge smaller(<1/64) OD but they seat so the tapered collet nut will draw
>them up just fine. Yay :)
>
Cool, let me know what it feels like to use and the power compared to
the dremel. I miss mine. :)

wn

woodchucker

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

06/01/2016 12:20 PM

On 1/5/2016 7:23 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/5/2016 5:59 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 1/5/2016 4:08 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>> On 1/4/2016 2:20 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>>>>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>>>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>>>>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>>>>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>>>>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>>>>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>>>>> was on a new one. I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get
>>>>> one at
>>>>> Harbor Freight
>>>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>>>>> However, I
>>>>> have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>>>>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>>>>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>>>>> useable in the HF tool? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leaving emotions out of the decision making, I think I would buy
>>>> another Dremel with the features you like. UNLESS of course you
>>>> simply don't like any of the models.
>>>
>>> I just don't like Dremel. Two reasons...
>>>
>>> 1. They were less (WAY less) than customer oriented when I returned the
>>> the one for repair.
>>>
>>> 2. I think they are way overpriced. Especially the "accessories".
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have had a Dremel rotary tool since 1981. Cheap and gets hot quick
>>>> when use on full speed. BUT my son bought an accessory kit for it
>>>> about 6 years ago. All of the accessories fit that 35 year old unit.
>>>>
>>>> And in the last few years I have replaced the Wrench collet with a
>>>> finger tighten collet for a few dollars.
>>>>
>>>> Which model did they send you? Most all I see on the web site still
>>>> have a rotary speed dial with a slide for quick replacement of
>>>> accessories.
>>>
>>> No idea which model, probably no longer made. The one they sent has a
>>> sliding switch for on/off/speed. Don't like it. it was sent to Dremel
>>> heaven (trash) a few days ago so I can't look up for the model number.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I would miss mine if it went. I have an old model with ball bearings.
>> It's probably 45 years old, I had it when I was a kid and was building
>> models. I have used and abused it. No speed control, but I added an
>> external speed control, my dad thought it said 10 amps and had me buy an
>> expensive motor controller. It was really 1.0 amps.
>>
>> I had to resolder the brush holder to the lead. It broke off twice. I
>> assume from heat or poor design originally.
>>
>> I have a friend that taught me how to build models at a top level. He
>> went through many dremels. He built full time, so they were used a lot,
>> but he abused them all the time. I don't stall mine, he always pushed
>> hard to the stalling point. I never understood that, I let the tool cut,
>> I bog it slightly so it is not burning up the bit, but I let it cut.
>>
>
>
> Strangely enough my old cheap-o Dremel that I bought in 1981 had
> electronic speed control. I would have guessed bronze bushings over
> ball bearings however.

Yep, the diff in price was a lot for the ball bearing over the bronze.
So far, glad I spent the money. Back then in the late 60s- early 70s it
was a lot of money.

--
Jeff

Ll

Leon

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 9:15 AM

On 1/4/2016 10:10 PM, Bill wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500
>> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent
>>> back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much care
>>> for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial,
>> i notice a lot of places do this now
>> no repair just send a new one
>> problem is new ones are not always better
>>
>>> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>> thinking about getting item#40432 since it has a flexible shaft and
>> is moreversatile than my handheld
>> i have a dremel look alike
>> craftsmen i think
>
> I had one HF rotary tool that did on honest amount of work over 2 days,
> but it's replacement didn't last 10 minutes. It's replacement (the 3rd
> unit) is still in the box unopened since I will save it for "very
> lightweight" applications. The good news is the HF is liberal about
> replacement within 30 days. I don't think I would buy another one, but
> you say you have had good luck with HF tools, so who knows... Some
> people say that they would never buy a car that was a rental (e.g.
> Hertz), but I have bought 4 or 5 or them, with complete satisfaction.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
So Bill your first HF lasted an honest 2 days, the second 10 minutes and
you have an unopened on in the box......

Do you really recommend that tool? It seems that It would be cheaper to
buy one that would last longer and probably be more comfortable to use
and save you time by not having to replace if after 2 days of use.

Just saying.....

Ll

Leon

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 6:21 PM

On 1/5/2016 3:08 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 1/4/2016 2:20 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>>> was on a new one. I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at
>>> Harbor Freight
>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I
>>> have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>>> useable in the HF tool? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Leaving emotions out of the decision making, I think I would buy
>> another Dremel with the features you like. UNLESS of course you
>> simply don't like any of the models.
>
> I just don't like Dremel. Two reasons...
>
> 1. They were less (WAY less) than customer oriented when I returned the
> the one for repair.
>
> 2. I think they are way overpriced. Especially the "accessories".

Reason enough!



>
>>
>> I have had a Dremel rotary tool since 1981. Cheap and gets hot quick
>> when use on full speed. BUT my son bought an accessory kit for it
>> about 6 years ago. All of the accessories fit that 35 year old unit.
>>
>> And in the last few years I have replaced the Wrench collet with a
>> finger tighten collet for a few dollars.
>>
>> Which model did they send you? Most all I see on the web site still
>> have a rotary speed dial with a slide for quick replacement of
>> accessories.
>
> No idea which model, probably no longer made. The one they sent has a
> sliding switch for on/off/speed. Don't like it. it was sent to Dremel
> heaven (trash) a few days ago so I can't look up for the model number.
>
>
>

I honestly believe that you would be happier with the B&D that
Nailshooter mentioned, than the HF. You would be pretty much going
down in quality to the bottom and what you threw away might be
preferable. You can trust Nailshooters suggestions.

Ll

Leon

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 6:23 PM

On 1/5/2016 5:59 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 1/5/2016 4:08 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> On 1/4/2016 2:20 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>>>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>>>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>>>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>>>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>>>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>>>> was on a new one. I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at
>>>> Harbor Freight
>>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>>>> However, I
>>>> have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>>>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>>>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>>>> useable in the HF tool? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Leaving emotions out of the decision making, I think I would buy
>>> another Dremel with the features you like. UNLESS of course you
>>> simply don't like any of the models.
>>
>> I just don't like Dremel. Two reasons...
>>
>> 1. They were less (WAY less) than customer oriented when I returned the
>> the one for repair.
>>
>> 2. I think they are way overpriced. Especially the "accessories".
>>
>>>
>>> I have had a Dremel rotary tool since 1981. Cheap and gets hot quick
>>> when use on full speed. BUT my son bought an accessory kit for it
>>> about 6 years ago. All of the accessories fit that 35 year old unit.
>>>
>>> And in the last few years I have replaced the Wrench collet with a
>>> finger tighten collet for a few dollars.
>>>
>>> Which model did they send you? Most all I see on the web site still
>>> have a rotary speed dial with a slide for quick replacement of
>>> accessories.
>>
>> No idea which model, probably no longer made. The one they sent has a
>> sliding switch for on/off/speed. Don't like it. it was sent to Dremel
>> heaven (trash) a few days ago so I can't look up for the model number.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I would miss mine if it went. I have an old model with ball bearings.
> It's probably 45 years old, I had it when I was a kid and was building
> models. I have used and abused it. No speed control, but I added an
> external speed control, my dad thought it said 10 amps and had me buy an
> expensive motor controller. It was really 1.0 amps.
>
> I had to resolder the brush holder to the lead. It broke off twice. I
> assume from heat or poor design originally.
>
> I have a friend that taught me how to build models at a top level. He
> went through many dremels. He built full time, so they were used a lot,
> but he abused them all the time. I don't stall mine, he always pushed
> hard to the stalling point. I never understood that, I let the tool cut,
> I bog it slightly so it is not burning up the bit, but I let it cut.
>


Strangely enough my old cheap-o Dremel that I bought in 1981 had
electronic speed control. I would have guessed bronze bushings over
ball bearings however.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

04/01/2016 3:35 PM

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent
> back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much care
> for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial,

i notice a lot of places do this now
no repair just send a new one
problem is new ones are not always better

> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.

thinking about getting item#40432 since it has a flexible shaft and
is moreversatile than my handheld

i have a dremel look alike
craftsmen i think








BB

Bill

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

04/01/2016 11:10 PM

Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent
>> back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much care
>> for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial,
> i notice a lot of places do this now
> no repair just send a new one
> problem is new ones are not always better
>
>> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
> thinking about getting item#40432 since it has a flexible shaft and
> is moreversatile than my handheld
>
> i have a dremel look alike
> craftsmen i think
>
>

I had one HF rotary tool that did on honest amount of work over 2 days,
but it's replacement didn't last 10 minutes. It's replacement (the 3rd
unit) is still in the box unopened since I will save it for "very
lightweight" applications. The good news is the HF is liberal about
replacement within 30 days. I don't think I would buy another one, but
you say you have had good luck with HF tools, so who knows... Some
people say that they would never buy a car that was a rental (e.g.
Hertz), but I have bought 4 or 5 or them, with complete satisfaction.

Bill



>
>
>
>
>

BB

Bill

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 10:36 AM

Leon wrote:
> On 1/4/2016 10:10 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500
>>> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent
>>>> back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much care
>>>> for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial,
>>> i notice a lot of places do this now
>>> no repair just send a new one
>>> problem is new ones are not always better
>>>
>>>> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
>>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>>> thinking about getting item#40432 since it has a flexible shaft and
>>> is moreversatile than my handheld
>>> i have a dremel look alike
>>> craftsmen i think
>>
>> I had one HF rotary tool that did on honest amount of work over 2 days,
>> but it's replacement didn't last 10 minutes. It's replacement (the 3rd
>> unit) is still in the box unopened since I will save it for "very
>> lightweight" applications. The good news is the HF is liberal about
>> replacement within 30 days. I don't think I would buy another one, but
>> you say you have had good luck with HF tools, so who knows... Some
>> people say that they would never buy a car that was a rental (e.g.
>> Hertz), but I have bought 4 or 5 or them, with complete satisfaction.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
> So Bill your first HF lasted an honest 2 days, the second 10 minutes
> and you have an unopened on in the box......
>
> Do you really recommend that tool?

No, if you read again, you'll notice that I wrote: "I Don't think I
would buy another one,..." (and I really meant it!)

Bill





> It seems that It would be cheaper to buy one that would last longer
> and probably be more comfortable to use and save you time by not
> having to replace if after 2 days of use.
>
> Just saying.....
>
>

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 7:49 AM

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 23:10:44 -0500
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

> I had one HF rotary tool that did on honest amount of work over 2
> days, but it's replacement didn't last 10 minutes. It's replacement
> (the 3rd unit) is still in the box unopened since I will save it for

item # matters with hf













dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 4:08 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 1/4/2016 2:20 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>> was on a new one. I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at
>> Harbor Freight
>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I
>> have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>> useable in the HF tool? Thanks.
>>
>>
>
> Leaving emotions out of the decision making, I think I would buy
> another Dremel with the features you like. UNLESS of course you
> simply don't like any of the models.

I just don't like Dremel. Two reasons...

1. They were less (WAY less) than customer oriented when I returned the
the one for repair.

2. I think they are way overpriced. Especially the "accessories".

>
> I have had a Dremel rotary tool since 1981. Cheap and gets hot quick
> when use on full speed. BUT my son bought an accessory kit for it
> about 6 years ago. All of the accessories fit that 35 year old unit.
>
> And in the last few years I have replaced the Wrench collet with a
> finger tighten collet for a few dollars.
>
> Which model did they send you? Most all I see on the web site still
> have a rotary speed dial with a slide for quick replacement of
> accessories.

No idea which model, probably no longer made. The one they sent has a
sliding switch for on/off/speed. Don't like it. it was sent to Dremel
heaven (trash) a few days ago so I can't look up for the model number.


dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 4:11 PM

OFWW wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few
>> days ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it
>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just
>> sent back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much
>> care for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier
>> dial, bearings less than stellar (made afair amount of noise. They
>> charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is about what the wholesale
>> was on a new one.
>>
>> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>> However, I have numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank
>> sizes that I would like to keep using, have collets for all. My
>> question is, does anyone know - KNOW - if the Dremel collets are
>> useable in the HF tool?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> I bought their "add on" kit with buffer wheels, grinding wheels and so
> on, and they all fit my Dremel that has the1-5 slide for speed
> control. The brushes or something internal is giving be speed
> problems, so it is either slow or fast depending on whether it is
> having a good day or not.
>
> So I imagine they're the same. I've looked at some of theirs in person
> and a few models are hardly bigger than the palm of my hand. So be
> choosy about which model you get. If you do please post your thoughts
> since I'm in the market for one as well.

I bought their corded, variable speed one, $24.95. The Dremel collets are a
smidge smaller(<1/64) OD but they seat so the tapered collet nut will draw
them up just fine. Yay :)

On

OFWW

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

04/01/2016 12:54 PM

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I've had a Dremel rotary tool for close to 45 years. It died a few days
>ago. Actually, it died aroounf 12 years ago but I shipped it off to Dremel
>to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent back another one -
>probably refurbished - which I didn't much care for...slide switch to vary
>speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial, bearings less than stellar (made
>afair amount of noise. They charged me $35 + shipping, I figure that is
>about what the wholesale was on a new one.
>
>I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight since I
>have had decent experiences with most of their tools. However, I have
>numerous old Dremel accessories with various shank sizes that I would like
>to keep using, have collets for all. My question is, does anyone know -
>KNOW - if the Dremel collets are useable in the HF tool?
>
>Thanks.
>

I bought their "add on" kit with buffer wheels, grinding wheels and so
on, and they all fit my Dremel that has the1-5 slide for speed
control. The brushes or something internal is giving be speed
problems, so it is either slow or fast depending on whether it is
having a good day or not.

So I imagine they're the same. I've looked at some of theirs in person
and a few models are hardly bigger than the palm of my hand. So be
choosy about which model you get. If you do please post your thoughts
since I'm in the market for one as well.

Ll

Leon

in reply to "dadiOH" on 04/01/2016 3:20 PM

05/01/2016 10:11 AM

On 1/5/2016 9:36 AM, Bill wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 1/4/2016 10:10 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:20:46 -0500
>>>> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> off to Dremel to be repaired. Well, they didn't repair it, just sent
>>>>> back another one - probably refurbished - which I didn't much care
>>>>> for...slide switch to vary speed instead of (IMO) a handier dial,
>>>> i notice a lot of places do this now
>>>> no repair just send a new one
>>>> problem is new ones are not always better
>>>>
>>>>> I won't be buying another Dremel, probably get one at Harbor Freight
>>>>> since I have had decent experiences with most of their tools.
>>>> thinking about getting item#40432 since it has a flexible shaft and
>>>> is moreversatile than my handheld
>>>> i have a dremel look alike
>>>> craftsmen i think
>>>
>>> I had one HF rotary tool that did on honest amount of work over 2 days,
>>> but it's replacement didn't last 10 minutes. It's replacement (the 3rd
>>> unit) is still in the box unopened since I will save it for "very
>>> lightweight" applications. The good news is the HF is liberal about
>>> replacement within 30 days. I don't think I would buy another one, but
>>> you say you have had good luck with HF tools, so who knows... Some
>>> people say that they would never buy a car that was a rental (e.g.
>>> Hertz), but I have bought 4 or 5 or them, with complete satisfaction.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> So Bill your first HF lasted an honest 2 days, the second 10 minutes
>> and you have an unopened on in the box......
>>
>> Do you really recommend that tool?
>
> No, if you read again, you'll notice that I wrote: "I Don't think I
> would buy another one,..." (and I really meant it!)
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>> It seems that It would be cheaper to buy one that would last longer
>> and probably be more comfortable to use and save you time by not
>> having to replace if after 2 days of use.
>>
>> Just saying.....
>>
>>
>
Sorry! I kind'a read these two together.

The good news is the HF is liberal about
>>> replacement within 30 days. I don't think I would buy another one,

I understood you could continue to return the bad units for exchanges
since they have 30 day liberal return policy.

I paid no attention to punctuation which would have mattered a lot. LOL

I have been seeing too many of Sparky Comet's comments with all that
goes with his/her projectile vomiting of words.




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