william kossack wrote:
> I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
Some of these are better than others, and it seem to be function of
what wood you use and long you are making your dowels.
http://tinyurl.com/mll5p
When I need a hardwood dowel I go to Woodcraft and buy one I can hold
in my hand for inspection. I can make the larger ones on my lathe, but
for anything around 1/4", I just buy it. I really only use dowels for
plugs or decorations, so others might help you better if you need
something more specialized.
Robert
william kossack wrote:
> I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
This looks a little scary:
http://www.routerworkshop.com/easydl.html
This looks a little too complicated:
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=53
Or you could just take a piece of square stock the appropriate size and
run it through your router table using a 1/4 round-over bit on all four
sides just leaving the ends square.
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
I consider a dowel to be a round piece of wood that is completely hidden in
a joint or seem. A peg is a round piece of wood that is partially embedded
and the remainder protrudes from the work piece. A plug is round piece of
wood that is partially embedded and cut flush to the wood.
Sorry for the above but I can not understand why a dowel in the above would
need to be made from exotics.
However, what size of dowel, do you need?
Dave
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>>> "william kossack" I need some dowls for a project using some exotic
>>> stock.
>>>
>>>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>>>round and most are bent.
>>>
>>>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
>>
>> Teamcasa wrote:
>> I consider a dowel to be a round piece of wood that is completely hidden
>> in a joint or seem. A peg is a round piece of wood that is partially
>> embedded and the remainder protrudes from the work piece. A plug is
>> round piece of wood that is partially embedded and cut flush to the wood.
>>
>> Sorry for the above but I can not understand why a dowel in the above
>> would need to be made from exotics.
>>
>> However, what size of dowel, do you need?
>> Dave
>"william kossack"
> because it will be seen
Then you don't need a dowel, you need a plug. DAGS plug cutter. Lee Valley
and others have them - in-expensive.
Dave
> "Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I consider a dowel to be a round piece of wood that is completely hidden
> in
>> a joint or seem. A peg is a round piece of wood that is partially
> embedded
>> and the remainder protrudes from the work piece. A plug is round piece
>> of
>> wood that is partially embedded and cut flush to the wood.
>
>
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So, when you go into the wood store, you ask for round wooden sticks as,
> by
> your definition, they can not be called a dowel
Well - I did say "I consider...". But yes I really don't care what anyone
else calls them.
Here's some more Daveisams:
Rod - Round stick, not generally used as a dowel.
Tube - Round hollow stick, not generally used as a dowel.
Pin - Round or multisided stick, not generally used as a dowel, mainly used
for indexing.
Dave
"william kossack"
> this is not a joining project.
>
> The dowels are needed for a project using a beall threading rig
>
Well now we are getting somewhere. What diameter?
Others have suggest very good methods for making a "wooden bolt/screw
blank - to be threaded"
I like a rotary plane or a lathe for making these.
Dave
I needed some dowels for joinery through leg to pin the side panel
tenons. I drilled a 1/4" hole in a piece of metal clamped it to bench.
Cut a 1/4"+ square piece of maple and hamered it through the hole. As
kids we were taught you cant put a square into a round. But they didnt
say unless you had a hammer.Works great for short dowels that will not
be seen.
william kossack wrote:
> I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
Because of the grain orientation, the roundness of a dowell varies
with the humidity.
Another poster has described ounding dowelss through holes
in a steel bar. That is the simplest dowell-making tool I
have eerheard of. You can rip the stock octagonal instead
of square before starting and one would suppose the
quality of the finished dowell and the effort needed to
make it would depend largely on how fine the gradations are
between the holes.
--
FF
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:38:55 -0600, william kossack
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>round and most are bent.
>
>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=52401&cat=51&ap=2
william kossack wrote:
> I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
1. Stock squared to diameter needed
2. 1/4 round router bit with correct radius
3. Four passes on a router table (leave enough stock square at each end so
it will run against table & fence).
--
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this is not a joining project.
The dowls are needed for a project using a beall threading rig
Stephen M wrote:
>>>>However, what size of dowel, do you need?
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>"william kossack"
>>>because it will be seen
>>
>>Then you don't need a dowel, you need a plug. DAGS plug cutter. Lee
>
> Valley
>
>>and others have them - in-expensive.
>
>
> I respectfully dissent. I think he wants a dowel
>
> A plug is cut with a cross-grain orientation.
>
> IMO, there are more definitions/usages than you cite.
>
> Interestingly, dowel, peg and plug are can all used as both noun and verb.
> IMO "dowel" can refer to any long-grain cylindrical stock... including that
> which is used to "peg" a tennon.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
>
Ah! I see. Know anyone that has made one.... someone to answer questions.
I wish the plans were better. I'm going to try the round over bit
method first because it will save on building time. I don't need a lot
of dowl but I need different sizes. I have lots of baltic birch plywood
scrap ot try to make jigs.
dadiOH wrote:
> william kossack wrote:
>
>>the second I think requires that you start with a round dowl otherwise
>>how to you round it true with the bit?
>>
>>>http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=53
>
>
> No, you start with square stock. The round infeed hole is the diameter of
> the stock diagonal...as the square stock is fed through the infeed hole it
> is rotated and the router bit cuts it round...it then enters the outfeed
> hole which is the diameter of the finished dowel.
>
ouch! look interesting but expensive
Woodhead wrote:
> Try these babies! Expensive, but fantastic for chair spindles:
>
> http://web.onetel.com/~ashemcrafts/index.htm
>
> Jim
> "william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>>
>>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>>round and most are bent.
>>
>>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
>
>
>
I think I'm going to try this approach
dadiOH wrote:
> william kossack wrote:
>
>>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>>
>>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>>round and most are bent.
>>
>>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
>
>
> 1. Stock squared to diameter needed
>
> 2. 1/4 round router bit with correct radius
>
> 3. Four passes on a router table (leave enough stock square at each end so
> it will run against table & fence).
>
>
the second I think requires that you start with a round dowl otherwise
how to you round it true with the bit?
RayV wrote:
> william kossack wrote:
>
>>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>>
>>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>>round and most are bent.
>>
>>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
>
>
> This looks a little scary:
> http://www.routerworkshop.com/easydl.html
>
> This looks a little too complicated:
> http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=53
>
> Or you could just take a piece of square stock the appropriate size and
> run it through your router table using a 1/4 round-over bit on all four
> sides just leaving the ends square.
>
I've seen these but I've heard they don't work very well.
At least that is what I've heard.
Prometheus wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:38:55 -0600, william kossack
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>>
>>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>>round and most are bent.
>>
>>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
>
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=52401&cat=51&ap=2
because it will be seen
Teamcasa wrote:
> "william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>>
>>I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
>>round and most are bent.
>>
>>Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
>
>
> I consider a dowel to be a round piece of wood that is completely hidden in
> a joint or seem. A peg is a round piece of wood that is partially embedded
> and the remainder protrudes from the work piece. A plug is round piece of
> wood that is partially embedded and cut flush to the wood.
>
> Sorry for the above but I can not understand why a dowel in the above would
> need to be made from exotics.
>
> However, what size of dowel, do you need?
> Dave
>
>
>
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"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
> >> However, what size of dowel, do you need?
> >> Dave
> >"william kossack"
> > because it will be seen
>
> Then you don't need a dowel, you need a plug. DAGS plug cutter. Lee
Valley
> and others have them - in-expensive.
I respectfully dissent. I think he wants a dowel
A plug is cut with a cross-grain orientation.
IMO, there are more definitions/usages than you cite.
Interestingly, dowel, peg and plug are can all used as both noun and verb.
IMO "dowel" can refer to any long-grain cylindrical stock... including that
which is used to "peg" a tennon.
Cheers,
Steve
Try these babies! Expensive, but fantastic for chair spindles:
http://web.onetel.com/~ashemcrafts/index.htm
Jim
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some dowls for a project using some exotic stock.
>
> I've tried to buy dowls for a project in the past but none of them are
> round and most are bent.
>
> Anyone have a jig or tool for making acurate dowls that works?
william kossack wrote:
> the second I think requires that you start with a round dowl otherwise
> how to you round it true with the bit?
>> http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=53
No, you start with square stock. The round infeed hole is the diameter of
the stock diagonal...as the square stock is fed through the infeed hole it
is rotated and the router bit cuts it round...it then enters the outfeed
hole which is the diameter of the finished dowel.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
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So, when you go into the wood store, you ask for round wooden sticks as, by
your definition, they can not be called a dowel.
"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I consider a dowel to be a round piece of wood that is completely hidden
in
> a joint or seem. A peg is a round piece of wood that is partially
embedded
> and the remainder protrudes from the work piece. A plug is round piece of
> wood that is partially embedded and cut flush to the wood.
I've not seen any dowls in the stores that are really round or straight
Teamcasa wrote:
>>"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>I consider a dowel to be a round piece of wood that is completely hidden
>>
>>in
>>
>>>a joint or seem. A peg is a round piece of wood that is partially
>>
>>embedded
>>
>>>and the remainder protrudes from the work piece. A plug is round piece
>>>of
>>>wood that is partially embedded and cut flush to the wood.
>>
>>
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>So, when you go into the wood store, you ask for round wooden sticks as,
>>by
>>your definition, they can not be called a dowel
>
>
> Well - I did say "I consider...". But yes I really don't care what anyone
> else calls them.
> Here's some more Daveisams:
>
> Rod - Round stick, not generally used as a dowel.
> Tube - Round hollow stick, not generally used as a dowel.
> Pin - Round or multisided stick, not generally used as a dowel, mainly used
> for indexing.
>
> Dave
>
>
>