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charlie b

12/10/2003 2:28 PM

Great Rocking Chair Maker URL

Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
doing Trial and Error.

http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.

charlie b

(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).


This topic has 13 replies

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BRuce

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 5:14 PM

I can see some resemblance but I don't think that anyone has a "lock" on
"a rocking chair with flairs and sweeping curves...". I see Maloof's
inspiration there but not an outright copy. there are several different
styles and many sizes. If I could work wood that well or as well as Mr.
Maloof, I too would quit my day job.

Bruce

YesMaam27577 wrote:

> Just this past weekend, at a seminar in Atlanta, Sam Maloof clearly
> stated that he is irritated by those that make money using his
> designs. He prefers not to waste time tracking down the violators, but
> it bothers him just the same.
>
> So, although I was also impressed with haltaylor.com, I won't be
> spending any money there. I'll do what Sam did -- keep trying
> something new, until I come up with something that works.
>
>
>
>
> charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
>>in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
>>Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
>>rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
>>doing Trial and Error.
>>
>>http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm
>>
>>If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
>>spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.
>>
>>charlie b
>>
>>(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).

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BRuce

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charlie b

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

14/10/2003 5:01 PM

Anyone buy Hal's set of plans for five different sizes of
his rocker? The samples of pages of the plans don't
really give much of a feel for the level of detail in
the plans. If they include methods for making the joints
along with full size patterns for $55/chair plans seems
like a good deal. Could save a lot of trial and error
and be a very valuable source of specialized techniques.

As for the similarity to Sam Maloof rockers, the former's
rockers are "s" shaped, Hal's aren't. Hal's front legs/
armrest supports are inward "c's", Maloof's are straighter.
Maloof's seats are very low, Hal's are at a more traditional
height.

I'm sure Hal utilizes some of the joinery Sam Maloof used.
If you study oriental furniture joinery you'll see that
Maloof didn't invent the joining methods he uses.

Bottom line, we all build on the knowledge developed by
others. Occassionaly we think we "create" something new
but a little researching usually shows it's been done
many times before. There is very little new under the
sun.

charlie b

cb

charlie b

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

15/10/2003 8:39 PM

George wrote:
>
> Uh, Ed, that's not quality being charged, but rarity. Daresay the
> customer's butt would be as well and long supported by rockers costing much
> less.
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message

But I'd be willing to bet a grand or two that none of his chairs
are going to end up in a dump, garage sale or thrift shop - at
least not on purpose. Regardless of its price tag, I'm sure
if something broke or turned loose it would be repaired - not
so for most of what you find in a furniture store.

charlie b

Gs

"George"

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 9:59 AM

Uh, Ed, that's not quality being charged, but rarity. Daresay the
customer's butt would be as well and long supported by rockers costing much
less.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Very impressive work. I have to admire someone that can make a career of
a
> high priced item and enjoy doing it. It would be nice to spend a week in
> his shop making your own chair.
>
> The fact that lead time can reach 35 weeks says there is a market for
> quality furniture.
> Ed

gG

[email protected] (Gary Greenberg)

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

16/10/2003 4:44 AM

[email protected] (Chris) wrote:
> Read the rest of his website. He hasn't made a career of this, he was
> an engineer who used to make musical instruments as a hobby. I am
> guessing that his rocking chair making grew from his woodworking in
> musical instruments.
>
> Let see, 200+ chairs at $5000 and up equals a cool 1 million plus.
> Add 100+ plans at $275, selling workshop time, etc, he probably made
> another 50G pocket change. Nice hobby!

Did you forgot the payment he must get for being a Tenryu Gold Medal
blade spokesman. I thought he looks familiar from ads in FWW.
I'd say the man is living right ;-P

Cheers,
Gary

wM

[email protected] (Mark Ohlund)

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 2:17 PM

charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
> in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
> Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
> rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
> doing Trial and Error.
>
> http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm
>
> If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
> spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.
>
> charlie b

Another source of similar rocking chairs is:

http://www.mesquiterocker.com/

Hensarling has the same type of business. He used to sell plans too
but now you have to take a course to get them.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

12/10/2003 11:19 PM


"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
> in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
> Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
> rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
> doing Trial and Error.
>
> http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm

Very impressive work. I have to admire someone that can make a career of a
high priced item and enjoy doing it. It would be nice to spend a week in
his shop making your own chair.

The fact that lead time can reach 35 weeks says there is a market for
quality furniture.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


jj

"joe"

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 6:10 AM

thanks for the tip HAL


"charlie b" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
> in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
> Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
> rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
> doing Trial and Error.
>
> http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm
>
> If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
> spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.
>
> charlie b
>
> (not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).

DY

[email protected] (YesMaam27577)

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 1:42 PM

Just this past weekend, at a seminar in Atlanta, Sam Maloof clearly
stated that he is irritated by those that make money using his
designs. He prefers not to waste time tracking down the violators, but
it bothers him just the same.

So, although I was also impressed with haltaylor.com, I won't be
spending any money there. I'll do what Sam did -- keep trying
something new, until I come up with something that works.




charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
> in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
> Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
> rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
> doing Trial and Error.
>
> http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm
>
> If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
> spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.
>
> charlie b
>
> (not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).

cC

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 11:18 AM

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Very impressive work. I have to admire someone that can make a career of a
> high priced item and enjoy doing it. It would be nice to spend a week in
> his shop making your own chair.
>
> The fact that lead time can reach 35 weeks says there is a market for
> quality furniture.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

Read the rest of his website. He hasn't made a career of this, he was
an engineer who used to make musical instruments as a hobby. I am
guessing that his rocking chair making grew from his woodworking in
musical instruments.

Let see, 200+ chairs at $5000 and up equals a cool 1 million plus.
Add 100+ plans at $275, selling workshop time, etc, he probably made
another 50G pocket change. Nice hobby!

-Chris

LL

Lazarus Long

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

15/10/2003 8:41 AM

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:01:14 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>I'm sure Hal utilizes some of the joinery Sam Maloof used.
>If you study oriental furniture joinery you'll see that
>Maloof didn't invent the joining methods he uses.
>
>Bottom line, we all build on the knowledge developed by
>others. Occassionaly we think we "create" something new
>but a little researching usually shows it's been done
>many times before. There is very little new under the
>sun.
>
>charlie b

This is true, but how close is too close? Maloof or Nakashima or
Krenov all have their look. Which of course is based on learning from
what's been done before. A summing up of the lessons they learned and
a bit of their own contribution.

So when others imitate the Maloof or Krenov style, how close is too
close? I think when the imitation causes one to be confused to the
point of thinking "is it live or Memorex?", that's too close. That
is, the imitator who offers things for sale should add enough of
themselves to avoid the confusion.

If, on the other hand, you want a Maloof rocker for yourself and
you'll only build that one, then sure, knock yourself out. Go for a
100% copy.

LL

Lazarus Long

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 9:58 AM

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 06:10:00 GMT, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>thanks for the tip HAL
>
>

I doubt that charlie b is actually the Hal in haltaylor.com I saw
that website quite some time ago and was equally impressed. Charlie b
is simply blown away by it and wants to share.

Tt

TomL

in reply to charlie b on 12/10/2003 2:28 PM

13/10/2003 4:47 PM

Great site. Good inspiration. Wonder if it would be worth the $275 to
buy the book and plans..........?

Thanks, charlie.
TomL

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:28:40 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Found this guy's site in some round about way. He specializes
>in rocking chairs If you like Maloof's rockers you'll like
>Hal's rockers. He has a set of plans for four or five size
>rockers - $275 but they'd save you that much in wood wasted
>doing Trial and Error.
>
>http://www.haltaylor.com/chairs.htm
>
>If you like sculpted pieces check this one out. You can also
>spend a week in his shop - for $800. Probably worth it.
>
>charlie b
>
>(not affiliated in any way with Hal Taylor).


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