I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels. I'm
not picky about the chisels being ultimately sharp, just good enough.
Ideally, I'd want stones that last awhile and require little
maintenance.
Any advise on what kind of stones to get and what grits are necessary?
I almost bought some shaptons, but after buying a few stones, the
flattening plate, etc, it would be about $200. While I'm not looking
for the cheapest solution, I don't think I need the cadillac solution,
since I only sharpen maybe 2 or 3 times a year (at most).
I was considering buying a diamond stone or two, but I don't know which
brands are good and what grits to get.
Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks.
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
>
> I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels. I'm
> not picky about the chisels being ultimately sharp, just good enough.
> Ideally, I'd want stones that last awhile and require little
> maintenance.
>
> Any advise on what kind of stones to get and what grits are necessary?
>
> I almost bought some shaptons, but after buying a few stones, the
> flattening plate, etc, it would be about $200. While I'm not looking
> for the cheapest solution, I don't think I need the cadillac solution,
> since I only sharpen maybe 2 or 3 times a year (at most).
>
> I was considering buying a diamond stone or two, but I don't know which
> brands are good and what grits to get.
>
> Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks.
>
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=32970&cat=1,43072,45936
That should fit your budget.
Dave
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I've got a set of Arkansas stones that were at the local hardware store
for about $30. They came glued to a triangle-shaped block that rests
on a little stand.
I've used both these and the scary-sharp method, and there is little
real difference between the two. It seems like sharpening is more
about technique than abrasive to me.
For in the field touchups, I carry a mill file and an old Buck knife
"Wakesha stone" I got from a swap-meet for a couple bucks. A good file
will get them surprisingly sharp, especially after dinging the blade
badly.
You can pay anything you want for stones, but it's more about practice
than money. I've even sharpened old chisels to a reasonable edge on
the side of an old brick.
I got a rolling guide (wide enough for 2" planes too, and tool rests) on
sale for ~$8 while at busybeetools.com, and had SiC papers, and an old thick
piece of mirrored glass ~|1/4"|+, which you could find at any garage
sale/junk store for a couple bucks. I did have a can of spray glue; after
sticking the paper squares in the Zip-lock they come back out sticky the
next time. You only have to flatten the back once, and main edge
infrequently. You just need to fine tune the seconary angle which can be
done w/ paper (no stone). I haven't needed to re-do the main angle yet /
re-tune the back yet, but when I do I'm going to need to go through the
secondary angle to remove a chip. I'll probably spend ~$10 on a cheesy
combination stone to get back to where I need to be. May use it a few times
a year, for a few minutes.
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CW wrote:
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > CW wrote:
> > > Sharpening is just about a religious subject.
> >
> > And just like religion, there is only one true path. > JP
> >
>
> Yes, except for the others.
Heh. This must be a pretty grizzled group - I thought for sure I'd
hook a few with that troll!
JP
By 16 May 2006 18:30:22 -0700, "Jay Pique" <[email protected]>
decided to post "Re: help with stones for chisel sharpening" to
rec.woodworking:
>
>CW wrote:
>> Sharpening is just about a religious subject.
>
>And just like religion, there is only one true path. They're called
>Shapton Ceramic Sharpening Stones and the others are just pretenders to
>the throne.
>http://www.shaptonstones.com
>
>JP
Ok, I looked at their site. Just about anyone who uses the word 'utilize'
is either misinformed or pretentious. Or both. Do the stones match the
pitch? Hmmm.
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"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1147895887.528467.73790
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>
> CW wrote:
>> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > CW wrote:
>> > > Sharpening is just about a religious subject.
>> >
>> > And just like religion, there is only one true path. > JP
>> >
>>
>> Yes, except for the others.
>
> Heh. This must be a pretty grizzled group - I thought for sure I'd
> hook a few with that troll!
>
> JP
>
>
Wrong week.
Patriarch
Greetings BF,
dadiOH suggests something known as "the scary sharp method" which can
be searched out on the 'net easily, and pages go greatly in depth with technique.
If you go to a junk shop and buy a large thick piece of glass (mine is 18" x
18" x 3/4" thick), a can of 3M super 77, four grits of AO and SC waterproof
papers such as 220, 400, 800, 1200 and maybe 2000, a commonly found
sides clamping honing guide (or, vise type), you can sharpen your chisels and
plane blades as good as can possibly be done, with the bevels and backs
mirror-shiny, and the edges sharper than a scalpel.
Good prices on the papers:
http://www.riverweb.com:8002/index.html
http://www.onlineindustrialsupply.com/
Thick float glass is what you want as it is very very flat. Very expensive new
unless bought used from a junk shop. As far as "junk shops"... if we can say
"thank God for the sewage system"... yeah, go there.
You can as well --not use the super 77, just soak the paper until it stays lying
flat as fully wet, keeps the metal dust all the way down, and no spraying. But
the adhesive is not waterproof and will will not work with water.
I have norton water stones, the four grits in two stones, I have several Arkansas
natural oil stones as well but for all intensive purposes, "scary sharp" is still
my favorite method because it is very straight forward in how it works, and
exacting in great results. The link below has great deals on continuous surface
diamond plates made by DMT, also norton water stones. You'd want the 220/
1000 and the 4000/8000, and the flattening stone, and the prep stone (nagura)
stone: http://www.craftsmanstudio.com/
These ideas are based upon doing very fine work, but if it's about framing
work, buy a two grit Norton India stone and mineral oil from the drug store,
maybe an Arkansas hard stone from seller jpfarm on eBay, for the final strokes.
Lee Valley has US made AO stones of exclusive grits, 90/600.
http://www.leevalley.com/
Have fun,
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"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> CW wrote:
> > Sharpening is just about a religious subject.
>
> And just like religion, there is only one true path. > JP
>
Yes, except for the others.
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
>
> I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels. I'm
> not picky about the chisels being ultimately sharp, just good enough.
> Ideally, I'd want stones that last awhile and require little
> maintenance.
>
> Any advise on what kind of stones to get and what grits are necessary?
>
> I almost bought some shaptons, but after buying a few stones, the
> flattening plate, etc, it would be about $200. While I'm not looking
> for the cheapest solution, I don't think I need the cadillac solution,
> since I only sharpen maybe 2 or 3 times a year (at most).
>
> I was considering buying a diamond stone or two, but I don't know which
> brands are good and what grits to get.
>
> Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks.
>
I am a professional and I sharpen atm two or three times a day and I am
using cheap disposable diamond stones, about five quid for a set of three
and they last me a month or two. Water lubricated, so no messy oil, always
flat enough, and the coarse grade takes off a steel at a suprising rate
(when it's new, but what the heck, buy another).
Tim W
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
>
> I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels. I'm
> not picky about the chisels being ultimately sharp, just good enough.
> Ideally, I'd want stones that last awhile and require little
> maintenance.
>snip>
> Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks.
I use Ezy-lap diamond hones. I've had them for 3 years and they are still
going strong.
bf wrote:
> I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
>
> I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels. I'm
> not picky about the chisels being ultimately sharp, just good enough.
> Ideally, I'd want stones that last awhile and require little
> maintenance.
>
> Any advise on what kind of stones to get and what grits are necessary?
1. Buy a piece or pieces of thick glass
2. Buy a can of spray adhesive
3. Buy some silicon carbide (wet/dry) sandpaper in grits from, say 280-1000
4. Put strips of paper on glass piece(s) with adhesive
--
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On 16 May 2006 13:24:52 -0700, "bf" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
>
>I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels.
Lots of options. Basic water stones are OK.
Re: the Shaptons. I read recently they have come out with a series
that are thinner and cheaper, bonded to a glass base.
I use "Scary Sharp" which uses sandpaper. You can read about it at
http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM
Sharpening is just about a religious subject. In any case, I have tried just
about everything at one time or another. None are really better than
another. What I most often use now is a dual sided diamond (320 and 600
grit) and a hard Arkansas to finish. Waterstones work fine but no better
than my current system and they need to be flattened. Between the diamond
stone and the hard Arkansas, about $200 is about right. Less money for a
system that works very well, just a bit slower, is a two grit India stone
and a piece of leather. About $25.00.
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've done a google search, but couldn't find a definite answer.
>
> I just want some basic sharpening stones for sharpening chisels. I'm
> not picky about the chisels being ultimately sharp, just good enough.
> Ideally, I'd want stones that last awhile and require little
> maintenance.
>
> Any advise on what kind of stones to get and what grits are necessary?
>
> I almost bought some shaptons, but after buying a few stones, the
> flattening plate, etc, it would be about $200. While I'm not looking
> for the cheapest solution, I don't think I need the cadillac solution,
> since I only sharpen maybe 2 or 3 times a year (at most).
>
> I was considering buying a diamond stone or two, but I don't know which
> brands are good and what grits to get.
>
> Any recommendations would be helpful. Thanks.
>