MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

02/03/2004 4:26 AM

The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking

The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking

1.) All the time I have spent acquiring the latest and greatest in
jigs, planes, blades, bits, shaves, and all the other stuff I thought
I needed to work wood was never as well spent as the time I could have
spent trying to actually work wood.

2.) I need small, frequent "wins." I work and learn more consistently
when I break down some process into such small increments that I can
accomplish them in one-hour time frames. It may take me _much_ longer
to learn a process this way, but I will keep going until I achieve the
goal. (I ought to have mitered blind dovetails down by 2015.)

3.) It is worth _any_ expense of time and energy and money for me to
find anyone who can teach me a skill I don't know. Even if "he's
really good, and I suck." _Especially_ if "he's really good, and I
suck." False pride, shame, and fear have no place in an avocation as
passionate as working wood.

4.) The craftsmen I most wish to emulate are the ones who take the
time to pass on what they have learned. For them, it's not only about
the work, it's about people. I want to be like them when I "get good."

5.) Keeping my tools in cases and doored cabinets in a perfectly
de-humidified shop will never be more important than keeping them out
where I can get to them immediately, humidity and rust goblins be
damned. I own relatively few, and since they were a lot of money for
me I need to take reasonable care with them, but if I have to stop
what I'm doing, or interrupt the flow to get to tools I can't leave
out on a bench, I need cheaper tools.

6.) The only thing more important than my concern for the condition of
my tools is that if my concern for their condition is preventing me
from using them to their utmost in spite of an occasional bashing
about, I need cheaper tools.

7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.

8.) The projects I make and the time I spend making them will never be
as beautiful nor as rewarding as what I make when I put my tools down
and answer her: "Sure, honey, I'd be happy to..."

9.) The most precious tools I ever-- or will ever have-- owned were
the ones that had "Playskool" on them. On second thought, they may
have said "Fischer-Price", I was barely walking at the time and I
can't remember which ones my dad gave me when I was so little that the
tools looked _big._ I played with them for awhile, but then I
"outgrew" them. I would trade not only my current tools, but anything
I own, to have those cheap plastic tools back. _Anything._

10.) A couple of hundred years from now when whatever is left of me is
merely nourishment for some new tree, the only thing that will matter
to the woodworking I will be able to do then is whether I cared about
any of the above now.

I'd better, because I want to be working wood forever.

Michael Baglio


This topic has 21 replies

Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

01/03/2004 9:57 PM

Very good - I was almost gettin' misty.


"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
> 1.) All the time I have spent acquiring the latest and greatest in
> jigs, planes, blades, bits, shaves, and all the other stuff I thought
> I needed to work wood was never as well spent as the time I could have
> spent trying to actually work wood.
>
> 2.) I need small, frequent "wins." I work and learn more consistently
> when I break down some process into such small increments that I can
> accomplish them in one-hour time frames. It may take me _much_ longer
> to learn a process this way, but I will keep going until I achieve the
> goal. (I ought to have mitered blind dovetails down by 2015.)
>
> 3.) It is worth _any_ expense of time and energy and money for me to
> find anyone who can teach me a skill I don't know. Even if "he's
> really good, and I suck." _Especially_ if "he's really good, and I
> suck." False pride, shame, and fear have no place in an avocation as
> passionate as working wood.
>
> 4.) The craftsmen I most wish to emulate are the ones who take the
> time to pass on what they have learned. For them, it's not only about
> the work, it's about people. I want to be like them when I "get good."
>
> 5.) Keeping my tools in cases and doored cabinets in a perfectly
> de-humidified shop will never be more important than keeping them out
> where I can get to them immediately, humidity and rust goblins be
> damned. I own relatively few, and since they were a lot of money for
> me I need to take reasonable care with them, but if I have to stop
> what I'm doing, or interrupt the flow to get to tools I can't leave
> out on a bench, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 6.) The only thing more important than my concern for the condition of
> my tools is that if my concern for their condition is preventing me
> from using them to their utmost in spite of an occasional bashing
> about, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>
> 8.) The projects I make and the time I spend making them will never be
> as beautiful nor as rewarding as what I make when I put my tools down
> and answer her: "Sure, honey, I'd be happy to..."
>
> 9.) The most precious tools I ever-- or will ever have-- owned were
> the ones that had "Playskool" on them. On second thought, they may
> have said "Fischer-Price", I was barely walking at the time and I
> can't remember which ones my dad gave me when I was so little that the
> tools looked _big._ I played with them for awhile, but then I
> "outgrew" them. I would trade not only my current tools, but anything
> I own, to have those cheap plastic tools back. _Anything._
>
> 10.) A couple of hundred years from now when whatever is left of me is
> merely nourishment for some new tree, the only thing that will matter
> to the woodworking I will be able to do then is whether I cared about
> any of the above now.
>
> I'd better, because I want to be working wood forever.
>
> Michael Baglio




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charlie b

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 6:09 PM

Larry wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> If you can find a copy of the essay "Murder in the Kitchen" by Allan
> Watts I'm sure you would appreciate how the philosophy expressed
> applies to wood working. I don't remember which of his books it was
> in but a Google search will probably locate a copy of the essay or at
> least discussion.
>
> Larry
>
> P.S. Check out the lyrics to the old Jefferson Airplane tune "Eskimo
> Blue Day"

Larry:

Allen Watts!?

Won't be long before Steve Gaskin and Wednesday Night Class are
mentioned - on The Wreck of all places. Nex thing you know Larry
J will make Lao Tse T-shirts available.

Michael:

Though I'm certain you could've Stepped Off The Wheel a long
time ago, thanks for the reminders on what's important and
what ain't.


charlie b

ps
To the Born Again Christians - maybe this time you'll get
it.

pps
For any Muslim contemplating martyrdom - 40 virgins - for
eternity! That ain't heaven - that's hell you're aiming
for. Reconsider - please.

lL

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 2:54 AM

Michael,

If you can find a copy of the essay "Murder in the Kitchen" by Allan
Watts I'm sure you would appreciate how the philosophy expressed
applies to wood working. I don't remember which of his books it was
in but a Google search will probably locate a copy of the essay or at
least discussion.

Larry

P.S. Check out the lyrics to the old Jefferson Airplane tune "Eskimo
Blue Day"

cC

[email protected] (Conan the Librarian)

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 5:12 AM

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

Just a couple of slight modifications here:

> My off the top of my head list of 10 most valuable lessons i've
> learned.
>
> 1. I'm not perfect, so neither does the project need be in order to be
> something unique, beautiful, useful and significant.

I'm not perfect, and therefore the project *will* *not* *be*, but
usually I'm the only one who notices anyway.

> 2. The absolute most satisfying projects are the ones you build for
> someone you love.

They are also the most frustrating unless you make absolutely sure
that you know exactly what they want beforehand. Even at that ...

> 3. It's ok to spend a few hours straightening out the shop, puttering
> around doing nothing more important than doing a bit of maintenance
> and dreaming of the next/current project.

It should be mandatory to do this at least once a month.
Sharpening sessions may or may not count depending on the level of
your galootitude.

> 4. Five minutes spent drawing/sketching/thinking will usually avoid an
> hour or five later spent in the moaning chair.

Nothing to add here.

> 4.a Some days it's best just to go directly to the moaning chair and
> have a beer.

Or see #3 above.

> 5. It's not an interruption, it's a chance to show someone what you're
> working on (sorry bh).

And if it is a younger family member, possibly a chance to interest
them in the joys of your hobby. SWMBO'ette #2 thinks I'm crazy
because of the time I spend making those curlies, but on more than one
occasion she has asked me for a bagful for decorating or wrapping
presents.

> 6. Friends/relatives generally don't have an appreciation for a museum
> of jack planes.

Nor do they necessarily understand the joy you feel when you show
them your collection of ultimate smoothers and ask if they want to see
you get a perfect, one-sided shaving.

Corrollary: If they are heavy power tool users, they may look
around your shop in dismay, wondering where the machinery went to.

> 7. The worst day wooddorking is still better than the best Kenny G.
> concert.

Er, I can't disagree with that, but the best K*nn* G concert would
be marginally better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick (or
not).

> 8. Blood is an impressive dye stain.

Corrollary A: You will only get it on your work after all the
surfaces are perfectly planed.

Corrollary A1: In your effort to remove said bloodstain, you will
get horrible tearout in that area and have to smooth the whole surface
again.

Corrollary A2: See corrollary A.

> 9. It's difficult to learn while your gums are flapping or you're
> thinking up a funny retort instead of really paying attention.

No comment.

> 10. Every day you leave the shop and can still count to ten without
> taking off your shoes is a good day.

Amen, my galootish hermano.


Chuck Vance

cC

[email protected] (Conan the Librarian)

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 5:22 AM

charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> Won't be long before Steve Gaskin and Wednesday Night Class are
> mentioned - on The Wreck of all places.

The Steven Gaskin? As in The Farm? Once upon a time, in a place
very far away I had friends who tried to talk me into joining.


Chuck Vance
Just say (tmPL) In a sense I *did* join.

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 3:37 AM

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:15:27 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:26:37 GMT, Michael Baglio
><mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking

>Good stuff, Michael.

Yeah, well, truth be told, part of it's your fault. Hadn't thought
about #7 in quite some time, but the first time I hit your site and
saw http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/img118.jpg it all came back in
a flash. It's a really good photograph. And he looks like a great
kid. I'm thinkin' he probably has a pretty good dad.

Michael

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 2:51 PM

Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking

Michael,
Thanks for sharing that. I hope to be working the wood forever too.

Regarding #7, there's a time to raise an alarmed voice to a
Galoot-In-Training (GIT), and that's when the little aspiring
wooddorker is (about to) put his/herself in immediate danger. An old
rec.normer named Dave Hess used to post a tome called, "A Father's
Touch." The bottom line is that we're not so much making projects as
making memories.

My off the top of my head list of 10 most valuable lessons i've
learned.

1. I'm not perfect, so neither does the project need be in order to be
something unique, beautiful, useful and significant.

2. The absolute most satisfying projects are the ones you build for
someone you love.

3. It's ok to spend a few hours straightening out the shop, puttering
around doing nothing more important than doing a bit of maintenance
and dreaming of the next/current project.

4. Five minutes spent drawing/sketching/thinking will usually avoid an
hour or five later spent in the moaning chair.

4.a Some days it's best just to go directly to the moaning chair and
have a beer.

5. It's not an interruption, it's a chance to show someone what you're
working on (sorry bh).

6. Friends/relatives generally don't have an appreciation for a museum
of jack planes.

7. The worst day wooddorking is still better than the best Kenny G.
concert.

8. Blood is an impressive dye stain.

9. It's difficult to learn while your gums are flapping or you're
thinking up a funny retort instead of really paying attention.

10. Every day you leave the shop and can still count to ten without
taking off your shoes is a good day.

Humbly submitted,
O'Deen

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 10:50 AM

>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something.

This was the thread I was looking for. Dave Van Ess wrote it. A Father's Hug.

http://tinyurl.com/2vwlc

Thanks again for the reminder, Michael.

O'Deen

md

"mttt"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 4:45 PM


"Specter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:CR_0c.647306$JQ1.164800@pd7tw1no...
>
>
> Oow. Number seven hit me right where it hurts. I may be guilty of that
> particular infraction.
>
> "Michael Baglio wrote ...
> > The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
> >
> > 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> > I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> > someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> > he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> > from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> > my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>

dammit... me too.
g'dammit... me too...

Ss

"Specter"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 12:11 PM

Oow. Number seven hit me right where it hurts. I may be guilty of that
particular infraction.

Rob

----------------------------------

"Michael Baglio wrote ...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.

BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 7:53 AM

Thank you, Mike--beautifully done. It isn't about woodworking, you know.
It's about life.

Bob

"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
> 1.) All the time I have spent acquiring the latest and greatest in
> jigs, planes, blades, bits, shaves, and all the other stuff I thought
> I needed to work wood was never as well spent as the time I could have
> spent trying to actually work wood.
>
> 2.) I need small, frequent "wins." I work and learn more consistently
> when I break down some process into such small increments that I can
> accomplish them in one-hour time frames. It may take me _much_ longer
> to learn a process this way, but I will keep going until I achieve the
> goal. (I ought to have mitered blind dovetails down by 2015.)
>
> 3.) It is worth _any_ expense of time and energy and money for me to
> find anyone who can teach me a skill I don't know. Even if "he's
> really good, and I suck." _Especially_ if "he's really good, and I
> suck." False pride, shame, and fear have no place in an avocation as
> passionate as working wood.
>
> 4.) The craftsmen I most wish to emulate are the ones who take the
> time to pass on what they have learned. For them, it's not only about
> the work, it's about people. I want to be like them when I "get good."
>
> 5.) Keeping my tools in cases and doored cabinets in a perfectly
> de-humidified shop will never be more important than keeping them out
> where I can get to them immediately, humidity and rust goblins be
> damned. I own relatively few, and since they were a lot of money for
> me I need to take reasonable care with them, but if I have to stop
> what I'm doing, or interrupt the flow to get to tools I can't leave
> out on a bench, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 6.) The only thing more important than my concern for the condition of
> my tools is that if my concern for their condition is preventing me
> from using them to their utmost in spite of an occasional bashing
> about, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>
> 8.) The projects I make and the time I spend making them will never be
> as beautiful nor as rewarding as what I make when I put my tools down
> and answer her: "Sure, honey, I'd be happy to..."
>
> 9.) The most precious tools I ever-- or will ever have-- owned were
> the ones that had "Playskool" on them. On second thought, they may
> have said "Fischer-Price", I was barely walking at the time and I
> can't remember which ones my dad gave me when I was so little that the
> tools looked _big._ I played with them for awhile, but then I
> "outgrew" them. I would trade not only my current tools, but anything
> I own, to have those cheap plastic tools back. _Anything._
>
> 10.) A couple of hundred years from now when whatever is left of me is
> merely nourishment for some new tree, the only thing that will matter
> to the woodworking I will be able to do then is whether I cared about
> any of the above now.
>
> I'd better, because I want to be working wood forever.
>
> Michael Baglio

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 9:32 PM

> > "Michael Baglio wrote ...
> > > The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
> > >
> > > 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> > > I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> > > someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> > > he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> > > from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> > > my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.

Sadly, most of us have done that at one time. At least I have grandkids now
and can make up for it a little.
Ed

LW

"Lone Wolf"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 12:34 AM

Michael,

I applaud your sentiment. I believe you have found the "Zen of woodworking
and true enlightenment"!

Lonewolf in Ontario

"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
> 1.) All the time I have spent acquiring the latest and greatest in
> jigs, planes, blades, bits, shaves, and all the other stuff I thought
> I needed to work wood was never as well spent as the time I could have
> spent trying to actually work wood.
>
> 2.) I need small, frequent "wins." I work and learn more consistently
> when I break down some process into such small increments that I can
> accomplish them in one-hour time frames. It may take me _much_ longer
> to learn a process this way, but I will keep going until I achieve the
> goal. (I ought to have mitered blind dovetails down by 2015.)
>
> 3.) It is worth _any_ expense of time and energy and money for me to
> find anyone who can teach me a skill I don't know. Even if "he's
> really good, and I suck." _Especially_ if "he's really good, and I
> suck." False pride, shame, and fear have no place in an avocation as
> passionate as working wood.
>
> 4.) The craftsmen I most wish to emulate are the ones who take the
> time to pass on what they have learned. For them, it's not only about
> the work, it's about people. I want to be like them when I "get good."
>
> 5.) Keeping my tools in cases and doored cabinets in a perfectly
> de-humidified shop will never be more important than keeping them out
> where I can get to them immediately, humidity and rust goblins be
> damned. I own relatively few, and since they were a lot of money for
> me I need to take reasonable care with them, but if I have to stop
> what I'm doing, or interrupt the flow to get to tools I can't leave
> out on a bench, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 6.) The only thing more important than my concern for the condition of
> my tools is that if my concern for their condition is preventing me
> from using them to their utmost in spite of an occasional bashing
> about, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>
> 8.) The projects I make and the time I spend making them will never be
> as beautiful nor as rewarding as what I make when I put my tools down
> and answer her: "Sure, honey, I'd be happy to..."
>
> 9.) The most precious tools I ever-- or will ever have-- owned were
> the ones that had "Playskool" on them. On second thought, they may
> have said "Fischer-Price", I was barely walking at the time and I
> can't remember which ones my dad gave me when I was so little that the
> tools looked _big._ I played with them for awhile, but then I
> "outgrew" them. I would trade not only my current tools, but anything
> I own, to have those cheap plastic tools back. _Anything._
>
> 10.) A couple of hundred years from now when whatever is left of me is
> merely nourishment for some new tree, the only thing that will matter
> to the woodworking I will be able to do then is whether I cared about
> any of the above now.
>
> I'd better, because I want to be working wood forever.
>
> Michael Baglio

MH

"Mark Hopkins"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

01/03/2004 11:55 PM

Pure poetry!

"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
> 1.) All the time I have spent acquiring the latest and greatest in
> jigs, planes, blades, bits, shaves, and all the other stuff I thought
> I needed to work wood was never as well spent as the time I could have
> spent trying to actually work wood.
>
> 2.) I need small, frequent "wins." I work and learn more consistently
> when I break down some process into such small increments that I can
> accomplish them in one-hour time frames. It may take me _much_ longer
> to learn a process this way, but I will keep going until I achieve the
> goal. (I ought to have mitered blind dovetails down by 2015.)
>
> 3.) It is worth _any_ expense of time and energy and money for me to
> find anyone who can teach me a skill I don't know. Even if "he's
> really good, and I suck." _Especially_ if "he's really good, and I
> suck." False pride, shame, and fear have no place in an avocation as
> passionate as working wood.
>
> 4.) The craftsmen I most wish to emulate are the ones who take the
> time to pass on what they have learned. For them, it's not only about
> the work, it's about people. I want to be like them when I "get good."
>
> 5.) Keeping my tools in cases and doored cabinets in a perfectly
> de-humidified shop will never be more important than keeping them out
> where I can get to them immediately, humidity and rust goblins be
> damned. I own relatively few, and since they were a lot of money for
> me I need to take reasonable care with them, but if I have to stop
> what I'm doing, or interrupt the flow to get to tools I can't leave
> out on a bench, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 6.) The only thing more important than my concern for the condition of
> my tools is that if my concern for their condition is preventing me
> from using them to their utmost in spite of an occasional bashing
> about, I need cheaper tools.
>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>
> 8.) The projects I make and the time I spend making them will never be
> as beautiful nor as rewarding as what I make when I put my tools down
> and answer her: "Sure, honey, I'd be happy to..."
>
> 9.) The most precious tools I ever-- or will ever have-- owned were
> the ones that had "Playskool" on them. On second thought, they may
> have said "Fischer-Price", I was barely walking at the time and I
> can't remember which ones my dad gave me when I was so little that the
> tools looked _big._ I played with them for awhile, but then I
> "outgrew" them. I would trade not only my current tools, but anything
> I own, to have those cheap plastic tools back. _Anything._
>
> 10.) A couple of hundred years from now when whatever is left of me is
> merely nourishment for some new tree, the only thing that will matter
> to the woodworking I will be able to do then is whether I cared about
> any of the above now.
>
> I'd better, because I want to be working wood forever.
>
> Michael Baglio

pp

patriarch

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 6:55 AM

Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:15:27 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:26:37 GMT, Michael Baglio
>><mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
>>Good stuff, Michael.
>
> Yeah, well, truth be told, part of it's your fault. Hadn't thought
> about #7 in quite some time, but the first time I hit your site and
> saw http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/img118.jpg it all came back in
> a flash. It's a really good photograph. And he looks like a great
> kid. I'm thinkin' he probably has a pretty good dad.
>
> Michael
>

The daughter-in-law brought the grandson-in-perpetual-motion by to visit
this afternoon. He's not quite 10 months old. In his hand is a new
plastic hammer that makes noises when he shakes it, or bangs it against
something. Grandpa couldn't see too clearly there for a minute.

Tom, I like the boy's bench. Goodonya....

Patriarch

pp

patriarch

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

04/03/2004 12:01 AM

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>>
>> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
>> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something.
>
> This was the thread I was looking for. Dave Van Ess wrote it. A
> Father's Hug.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2vwlc
>
> Thanks again for the reminder, Michael.
>
> O'Deen
>

The cycle also turns the other way....

As my father, now a widower after 56 years with my mother, has more time,
we find that some of the best time we spend together is in my shop, making
things and fixing things that need fixing around our homes.

When I was small, he taught me the rudiments of carpentry, and the details
of concrete and masonry and tile work. He taught me to plan a job, and to
come ready to work, and to finish it to the best of my abilities. He
taught me that my work is a lasting reflection of my caring.

Now he's in his late 70's, and I am in my early 50's. We both have had
successful (non-craft) careers, but enjoy making things that last. Over
the last several years, I have picked up my tools again, as my own sons
have graduated college, and I don't need to generate the same income flows
as before. It is great to be able to spend shop time with Dad, building
cabinets, or jewelry boxes, or frames for art glass, or whatever.

It is even nicer to be able to replace some of his disrepectable old tools
with a better grade than he had. And to use some of the good oldies that
came from his two brothers, who were finish carpenters by trade.

So thanks for that (re)post, as well as the earlier lessons learned.

Patriarch,
who also enjoys open air woodworking, but in Northern California.

ER

"Eric Ryder"

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 8:35 AM

Thank you for #7.


"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
>
snip
>
> 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>
snap

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 2:51 AM

In article <CR_0c.647306$JQ1.164800@pd7tw1no>, [email protected] says...
> Oow. Number seven hit me right where it hurts. I may be guilty of that
> particular infraction.
>
> Rob
>

Yeah, that hit kind of close to home.

> ----------------------------------
>
> "Michael Baglio wrote ...
> > The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking
> >
> > 7.) The time a favorite five-year-old picked up a prized hand saw and
> > I yelled "NO!!!", I killed something. Even if I spend $50,000 on tools
> > someday, I will never be able to buy back the delight in his eyes as
> > he reached for that saw nor will I ever be able to repay what I stole
> > from him that day. The next time I can't coach a kid in my shop with
> > my tools and show him how to use them, I will need cheaper tools.
>
>
>

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 6:31 PM

On 2 Mar 2004 14:51:36 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:


>Michael,
>Thanks for sharing that. I hope to be working the wood forever too.
>
>Regarding #7, there's a time to raise an alarmed voice to a
>Galoot-In-Training (GIT), and that's when the little aspiring
>wooddorker is (about to) put his/herself in immediate danger. An old
>rec.normer named Dave Hess used to post a tome called, "A Father's
>Touch." The bottom line is that we're not so much making projects as
>making memories.
>
>My off the top of my head list of 10 most valuable lessons i've
>learned.
>
>1. I'm not perfect, so neither does the project need be in order to be
>something unique, beautiful, useful and significant.
>
>2. The absolute most satisfying projects are the ones you build for
>someone you love.
>
>3. It's ok to spend a few hours straightening out the shop, puttering
>around doing nothing more important than doing a bit of maintenance
>and dreaming of the next/current project.
>
>4. Five minutes spent drawing/sketching/thinking will usually avoid an
>hour or five later spent in the moaning chair.
>
>4.a Some days it's best just to go directly to the moaning chair and
>have a beer.
>
>5. It's not an interruption, it's a chance to show someone what you're
>working on (sorry bh).
>
>6. Friends/relatives generally don't have an appreciation for a museum
>of jack planes.
>
>7. The worst day wooddorking is still better than the best Kenny G.
>concert.
>
>8. Blood is an impressive dye stain.
>
>9. It's difficult to learn while your gums are flapping or you're
>thinking up a funny retort instead of really paying attention.
>
>10. Every day you leave the shop and can still count to ten without
>taking off your shoes is a good day.
>
>Humbly submitted,
>O'Deen

<not snipped - out of due respect>


I be savin' dis.

Humbly received,


Thomas J. Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
(Real Email is tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

02/03/2004 10:15 PM

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:26:37 GMT, Michael Baglio
<mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>The Most Valuable 10 Lessons of My Woodworking


<snipped only to appease the bandwidth gods>

Good stuff, Michael.


Thomas J. Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
(Real Email is tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com> on 02/03/2004 4:26 AM

03/03/2004 3:27 AM

On 2 Mar 2004 14:51:36 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

>3. It's ok to spend a few hours straightening out the shop, puttering
>around doing nothing more important than doing a bit of maintenance
>and dreaming of the next/current project.

Heh... in your throw-the-door-open-and-its-big-as-all-outdoors shop
cleaning may be an option but, in a 12X16 shoppette it's downright
mandatory. The few hours I do that means I don't spend a few hours
wiping up blood, applying ice to banged-up bald heads, etc., etc...

>6. Friends/relatives generally don't have an appreciation for a museum
>of jack planes.

Don't take it too hard. Even Jesus didn't get any play in his own
hometown.
("HEY!" Ain't you that carpenter's kid? Get _away_ from me with your
"miracles." Go on, now, SCOOT!") ;>

>7. The worst day wooddorking is still better than the best Kenny G.
>concert.

LJ, you paying attention? Got a winning sticker here.


>Humbly submitted,

And every one a keeper. 'Specially the one dissin' Kenny G.

Michael


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