Now I'm conducting a market research for plywood .
Could you please advise me "what kinds of plywood you usually use and
for what end use do you use the plywood" ?
Could you please specify as detail as the following:
Plywood,
Grade of plywood :______
Species of face/back veneers: ______ (such as birch, maple, Oak, pine,
poplar,red hardwood(in cluding Okoume), etc.)
Species of core: _____ (Poplar, birch, tropical hardwood,etc.)
Glue:______ (MR,Melamine,Phenolic, E1 glue)
End use: ________ (funiture making, building(underlayment, subfloor ,
roof , wall borad) , packing )
(If you don't know it, leave it blank)
Thank you very much!
Mason Pan
http://www.plywood.cc/
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:01:13 -0500, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mason Pan wrote:
>
>I use plywood for building things. I prefer the flat kind with
>waterproof glue and with a good solid center.
I am late on this quiz. Maybe 10 years ago I got a sheet of 3/4" or so
plywood from BORG. I think it had a maple face. It had many plies, I
mean it was not 5 ply CDX but a higher number. It stunk when it was
cut. Not a pleasant smell but it did not smell like pig squeeze. It
was pretty heavy but not as heavy as mdf. Now I cannot remember what I
bought it for. Last project was a small subwoofer for the car.
I did buy some oak face plywood. It was supposed to 1/4" or so but
measures 11/64. The 3/4 plywood was 45/64". I would like plywood to be
close to dimension. But that was not a question.
On Sep 4, 2:46 pm, "Jack Dahlgren" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Mason Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Glue:______ (MR,Melamine,Phenolic, E1 glue)
>
> I usually use PVA glue, but model glue is better for sniffing.
PVC pipe glue is the best.
On Sep 10, 7:17 pm, Jim Behning
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:48:27 -0000, Mason Pan
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Thank you for all your feedbacks .
>
> >When you using plywood, have you paid some attention to the glue and
> >core of the plywood ?
> >What glue and core are they ?
>
> >Mason Pan
> >http://www.plywood.cc/
>
> Since I do not have a plywood plant in my backyard I have no way to
> influence the glue used. If you know anything about plywood you know
> most roof and decking plywood is spec 'ed with exterior glue. What
> that glue is who knows. For interior plywood much plywood is made
> 10,000 miles away. I would expect that there is lead, human bones,
> spit and other goo in the glue as many Asian manufacturers seem to
> want to dispose of hazardous materials to US consumers.
>
> When I use CDX or BCX for projects I expect Southern Yellow pine as
> the surface and core. I do not want mystery wood or mystery glue. I
> want something that is "safe" for me and my livestock. I also do not
> want voids in the core whether I am using the plywood for furniture or
> for construction.
>
> If you ask the same question of wholesale customers who can ask for
> certain glues and cores then you may get a different answer. End
> consumers often have little to no choice in the matter as they are at
> the mercy of the local wholesale/retail store.
>
> I have seen fire ret ardent plywood fail on TV and in the
> neighborhood. Failure is defined as people falling through roofs as
> the plywood delaminated. I would suspect that if the plywood was at
> the failure point where walking on it would let someone fall through
> then it was a greater fire hazard than plywood that had not suffered a
> glue failure.
I think that usually end users want to pay for high priced and high
quality plywood .
Is this right ?
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:48:27 -0000, Mason Pan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Thank you for all your feedbacks .
>
>When you using plywood, have you paid some attention to the glue and
>core of the plywood ?
>What glue and core are they ?
>
>Mason Pan
>http://www.plywood.cc/
Since I do not have a plywood plant in my backyard I have no way to
influence the glue used. If you know anything about plywood you know
most roof and decking plywood is spec 'ed with exterior glue. What
that glue is who knows. For interior plywood much plywood is made
10,000 miles away. I would expect that there is lead, human bones,
spit and other goo in the glue as many Asian manufacturers seem to
want to dispose of hazardous materials to US consumers.
When I use CDX or BCX for projects I expect Southern Yellow pine as
the surface and core. I do not want mystery wood or mystery glue. I
want something that is "safe" for me and my livestock. I also do not
want voids in the core whether I am using the plywood for furniture or
for construction.
If you ask the same question of wholesale customers who can ask for
certain glues and cores then you may get a different answer. End
consumers often have little to no choice in the matter as they are at
the mercy of the local wholesale/retail store.
I have seen fire ret ardent plywood fail on TV and in the
neighborhood. Failure is defined as people falling through roofs as
the plywood delaminated. I would suspect that if the plywood was at
the failure point where walking on it would let someone fall through
then it was a greater fire hazard than plywood that had not suffered a
glue failure.
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in news:46e76526$0$504$815e3792
@news.qwest.net:
> Mason Pan wrote:
>
>| I think that usually end users want to pay for high priced and high
>| quality plywood .
>| Is this right ?
>
> No. This end user wants to pay LOW price for high quality plywood. :-)
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
Ideally, you'd pay ME to take your high-quality plywood. ;-)
Puckdropper
--
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To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
"Mason Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now I'm conducting a market research for plywood .
> Could you please advise me "what kinds of plywood you usually use and
> for what end use do you use the plywood" ?
I like the flat kind. I use it to make things with.
> Could you please specify as detail as the following:
> Plywood,
> Grade of plywood :______
As required.
> Species of face/back veneers: ______ (such as birch, maple, Oak, pine,
> poplar,red hardwood(in cluding Okoume), etc.)
To match.
> Species of core: _____ (Poplar, birch, tropical hardwood,etc.)
etc.
> Glue:______ (MR,Melamine,Phenolic, E1 glue)
I usually use PVA glue, but model glue is better for sniffing.
> End use: ________ (funiture making, building(underlayment, subfloor ,
> roof , wall borad) , packing )
Yes.
> (If you don't know it, leave it blank)
OK
I prefer the laminated type
"Mason Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Now I'm conducting a market research for plywood .
> Could you please advise me "what kinds of plywood you usually use and
> for what end use do you use the plywood" ?
> Could you please specify as detail as the following:
> Plywood,
> Grade of plywood :______
> Species of face/back veneers: ______ (such as birch, maple, Oak, pine,
> poplar,red hardwood(in cluding Okoume), etc.)
> Species of core: _____ (Poplar, birch, tropical hardwood,etc.)
> Glue:______ (MR,Melamine,Phenolic, E1 glue)
> End use: ________ (funiture making, building(underlayment, subfloor ,
> roof , wall borad) , packing )
> (If you don't know it, leave it blank)
>
> Thank you very much!
> Mason Pan
> http://www.plywood.cc/
>
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:03:58 -0500, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mason Pan wrote:
>
>| I think that usually end users want to pay for high priced and high
>| quality plywood .
>| Is this right ?
>
>No. This end user wants to pay LOW price for high quality plywood. :-)
>
>--
>Morris Dovey
>DeSoto Solar
>DeSoto, Iowa USA
>http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>
It would be nice to have a choice of high quality at a fair price and
medium quality at a lesser price. When I go to the lumber yard I have
one grade of furniture plywood. I have a few choices for constuction
plywood. None of the plywood is valued priced as it was 10-12 years
ago.
I use the multi-ply type.
Lee wrote:
> I prefer the laminated type
> "Mason Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Now I'm conducting a market research for plywood .
>>Could you please advise me "what kinds of plywood you usually use and
>>for what end use do you use the plywood" ?
>>Could you please specify as detail as the following:
>>Plywood,
>>Grade of plywood :______
>>Species of face/back veneers: ______ (such as birch, maple, Oak, pine,
>>poplar,red hardwood(in cluding Okoume), etc.)
>>Species of core: _____ (Poplar, birch, tropical hardwood,etc.)
>>Glue:______ (MR,Melamine,Phenolic, E1 glue)
>>End use: ________ (funiture making, building(underlayment, subfloor ,
>>roof , wall borad) , packing )
>>(If you don't know it, leave it blank)
>>
>>Thank you very much!
>>Mason Pan
>>http://www.plywood.cc/
>>
>
>
>