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14/09/2005 7:05 AM

Aging "African Mahogany"


I am building a fireplace surround out of tile and african mahogany.
The mahogany boards are of varing degrees of aging and therefore of
varying degrees of color. I need to age them to a consistant color. I
know they will eventually turn color but in the meantime I have to live
with some light tan areas and some deep brown. Any suggestions? Leo


This topic has 8 replies

w

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

14/09/2005 1:15 PM

Thanks, I knew you would say that. Probably by the time I get done
planing they will all be about the same hue. I have used this stuff
before and like the ribbon grain but sometimes the color is a problem.
Leo

ee

"ed_h"

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

16/09/2005 9:55 AM


[email protected] wrote:
> I am building a fireplace surround out of tile and african mahogany.
> The mahogany boards are of varing degrees of aging and therefore of
> varying degrees of color. I need to age them to a consistant color. I
> know they will eventually turn color but in the meantime I have to live
> with some light tan areas and some deep brown. Any suggestions? Leo

Mahogany can be darkened with a dilute lye solution. Experiment with
strength, but just a few percent worked well for me. The effect is
instantaneous. Some will say you need to neutralize the lye with a
weak acid, but I haven't found this necessary. I believe exposure to
the air for a time will do it.

ee

"ed_h"

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

19/09/2005 11:01 AM


Australopithecus scobis wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:08:01 -0700, bridger wrote:
>
> > then what do you do to neutralize the vinegar?
> >
> >
> > <hint> most species of wood are mildly acidic as they come off of the
> > tree.
>
> The vinegar and the lye neutralize each other. Didn't know about the
> acidity of trees; thanks for the tidbit.
>
> --
> "Keep your ass behind you"
> vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com

I've never neutralized the lye, and haven't seen problems with finishes
(the main concern, I think). Lye is a strong base, and I wouldn't be
surprised if it would mess up the chemistry of a finish material. Lye
loses strength when exposed, though. I suspect that the NaOH reacts
slowly with atmospheric CO2, leaving sodium carbonate--a much more
benign material.

JM

"John Martin"

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

20/09/2005 4:32 PM


[email protected] wrote:
> I am building a fireplace surround out of tile and african mahogany.
> The mahogany boards are of varing degrees of aging and therefore of
> varying degrees of color. I need to age them to a consistant color. I
> know they will eventually turn color but in the meantime I have to live
> with some light tan areas and some deep brown. Any suggestions? Leo

A potassium dichromate solution will help the color along. A good
photo supply shop should have it.

John Martin

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

14/09/2005 7:36 PM

Yep...put them in the sun light...of course that will cause
other problems... You will need to tint,dye or stain that
wood to get a constant color(which is what factories do).


[email protected] wrote:

> I am building a fireplace surround out of tile and african mahogany.
> The mahogany boards are of varing degrees of aging and therefore of
> varying degrees of color. I need to age them to a consistant color. I
> know they will eventually turn color but in the meantime I have to live
> with some light tan areas and some deep brown. Any suggestions? Leo
>

b

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

16/09/2005 2:08 PM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:11:53 -0500, Australopithecus scobis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:55:56 -0700, ed_h wrote:
>
>> Some will say you need to neutralize the lye with a
>> weak acid, but I haven't found this necessary. I believe exposure to
>> the air for a time will do it.
>
>Acids and bases don't just go away. It's possible that wood has some
>slight buffering capacity, but a splash of vinegar is easy and quick.


then what do you do to neutralize the vinegar?


<hint> most species of wood are mildly acidic as they come off of the
tree.

As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

16/09/2005 3:11 PM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:55:56 -0700, ed_h wrote:

> Some will say you need to neutralize the lye with a
> weak acid, but I haven't found this necessary. I believe exposure to
> the air for a time will do it.

Acids and bases don't just go away. It's possible that wood has some
slight buffering capacity, but a splash of vinegar is easy and quick.

--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com

As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to [email protected] on 14/09/2005 7:05 AM

16/09/2005 7:19 PM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:08:01 -0700, bridger wrote:

> then what do you do to neutralize the vinegar?
>
>
> <hint> most species of wood are mildly acidic as they come off of the
> tree.

The vinegar and the lye neutralize each other. Didn't know about the
acidity of trees; thanks for the tidbit.

--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com


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