CJ

"Colin Jacobs"

16/03/2005 8:14 PM

Treating Pine Wood

I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some cabinets.
What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak Oil,
Stains Varnishes etc?

How does one prepare the wood please?
CJ
UK


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"Teamcasa"

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

16/03/2005 3:01 PM


"Colin Jacobs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some cabinets.
> What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak Oil,
> Stains Varnishes etc?
>
> How does one prepare the wood please?
> CJ
> UK

Pine? Outdoors? In-compatible unless kept dry and then painted.

Dave



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"George"

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

16/03/2005 7:16 PM


"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Colin Jacobs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some
cabinets.
> > What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak
Oil,
> > Stains Varnishes etc?
> >
> > How does one prepare the wood please?
> > CJ
> > UK
>
> Pine? Outdoors? In-compatible unless kept dry and then painted.
>

Best answer. Enclose some sort of polyethylene container in pine, leave the
bottom open, so it never has to deal with standing water, and it'll be fine.
Don't treat it. Lots of barns in the US are B&B pine, hemlock, or even
(real) poplar.

Ww

WillR

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

16/03/2005 4:02 PM

Colin Jacobs wrote:
> I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some cabinets.
> What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak Oil,
> Stains Varnishes etc?
>
> How does one prepare the wood please?
> CJ
> UK
>
>

Burn it. The ashes will last indefinitely if placed in an urn.

Sorry Couldn't resist. :-)

Pine is a Bad choice of wood for that application. (Especially if you
live in the north and use white pine. Southern (or ponderosa) pine may
be somewhat better if it has a high resin content -- but that is a
guess.) Use Cedar or Ipe. Or line the containers with plastic after you
build them. Better still use Cedar or Ipe AND line the containers.

And as a very wise person once said. Don't finish the cedar. Unless you
enjoy refinishing the material every year or two. Better off to spend
the time watching your flowers grow.


--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek
http://woodwork.pmccl.com

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

17/03/2005 3:44 AM

Colin Jacobs wrote:

> I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some cabinets.
> What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak Oil,
> Stains Varnishes etc?
>
> How does one prepare the wood please?
> CJ
> UK
>
>
Burn it with the propane torch, wire brush it
off, and cover it with polyurethane...

:-)
j4

WL

"Wilson Lamb"

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

16/03/2005 10:11 PM

My favorite treatment is copper naphthanate, at 19% concentration, but
considering the helpful nature of both our governments one often has to
settle for lower concentrations. It's available green, brown, and clear.
If you can't get that, soak in a heavy coating of oil stain, preferably
before assembly, and line if possible. As stated, these are unlikely to
last to be heirlooms.
Wilson
"WillR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Colin Jacobs wrote:
>> I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some
>> cabinets.
>> What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak Oil,
>> Stains Varnishes etc?
>>
>> How does one prepare the wood please?
>> CJ
>> UK
>>
>>
>
> Burn it. The ashes will last indefinitely if placed in an urn.
>
> Sorry Couldn't resist. :-)
>
> Pine is a Bad choice of wood for that application. (Especially if you live
> in the north and use white pine. Southern (or ponderosa) pine may be
> somewhat better if it has a high resin content -- but that is a guess.)
> Use Cedar or Ipe. Or line the containers with plastic after you build
> them. Better still use Cedar or Ipe AND line the containers.
>
> And as a very wise person once said. Don't finish the cedar. Unless you
> enjoy refinishing the material every year or two. Better off to spend the
> time watching your flowers grow.
>
>
> --
> Will
> Occasional Techno-geek
> http://woodwork.pmccl.com

md

mac davis

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

17/03/2005 9:08 AM

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:14:34 GMT, "Colin Jacobs" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some cabinets.
>What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside? Teak Oil,
>Stains Varnishes etc?
>
>How does one prepare the wood please?
>CJ
>UK
>
I also received pine and used ut outdoors, for benches and tables around the
pool..
I used a brush & roller to flood them with good quality redwood stain (before
assembly, if possible) and they've been out there for 2 summers and most of
their 3rd winter..
No rotting or softening yet, but I do recoat them each spring, when we recoat
the decking..


mac

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Colin Jacobs" on 16/03/2005 8:14 PM

16/03/2005 10:13 PM

It was somewhere outside Barstow when "Colin Jacobs"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have acquired some Pine to build planters for my patio & some cabinets.

Pine ? Or hemlock ? Because there's very little real "pine" sold
retail in the UK. You might get southern yellow pine or parana pine
if you ask specifically, but usually "white deal" will be hemlock and
"red deal" douglas fir or maybe spruce.

>What is the best way of treating Pine wood so it lasts outside?

In the UK ? Forget it ! You should try larch insted, or eastern red
cedar. Chestnut or oak if you have the budget, but pine is just a
waste of time and effort.


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