I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
because it was so cold. After reading about HDR photog (on the
wrec) I decided to try it out. The latest assembled picture is a
composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. I like the results and
think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
achieved with film (I think?).
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
www.garagewoodworks.com
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 1/14/2010 3:58 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>>
>>>> HDR photog
>>>
>>> Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Got
>>> to check it out.
>>
>> Thank you Swing! It is really cool. I have been playing around with
>> HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
>> Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
>> fast camera). I have also found that the results get better if I
>> drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. This way there is
>> absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
>
> I've been stuck in the stone age of photography since my old Pentax SLR,
> that I bought in Hong Kong in the mid 60's, was stolen some years ago,
> with nothing but cheap digital point and shoots in the interim.
>
> I hate to open another Pandora's box (Festool'ed hell outta the budget
> last month), and although I've done some beautiful pieces, doing justice
> to the beauty of the wood for presentation purposes has always been
> problematic for my limited equipment and skills. Judging from your
> example, HDR is indeed something to explore in that regard.
>
> It simply never dawned on me to explore HDR in that light (no pun
> intended) and the planning going into a new web site for the company at
> present makes it even more intriguing.
>
> Thanks for the inspiration!! ...
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
> Shooting in RAW is also a
>> requirement for HDR though I do believe that jpgs are required for
>> "exposure blending."
>
>
> Not correct, I never shood in RAW for HDR, always jpg.
I can no longer remember where I got that idea. I had to go into some
of my bracketed RAW files, convert them to jpgs just to run them back
through Photomatix to see for myself - voila. I know that Photomatix
recommends jpgs or tiff files for the exposure fusion option but cannot
conjure up a clue as to where I got the RAW-file-only brain fart. Chalk
that up to input overload.
Dave in Houston
On Jan 14, 4:53=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > HDR photog
>
> Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Got
> to check it out.
Thank you Swing! It is really cool. I have been playing around with
HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
fast camera). I have also found that the results get better if I
drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. This way there is
absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Jan 14, 5:06=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 14, 4:58=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 14, 4:53=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > > > HDR photog
>
> > > Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. G=
ot
> > > to check it out.
>
> > Thank you Swing! =A0It is really cool. =A0I have been playing around wi=
th
> > HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
> > Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
> > fast camera). =A0I have also found that the results get better if I
> > drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. =A0This way there is
> > absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
>
> > > --www.e-woodshop.net
> > > Last update: 10/22/08
> > > KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> Photomatix Pro will compensate for movement...up to a point and
> assuming there are some straight lines it can reference too. But
> you're right, can't beat a good tripod.
Neat. I need to look into that. I'm using Photoshop CS2 which
doesn't compensate for movement (unless I don't know how to do it).
On Jan 14, 6:50=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jan 14, 5:31 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> > >I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> > > because it was so cold. After reading about HDR photog (on the
> > > wrec) I decided to try it out. The latest assembled picture is a
> > > composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. I like the results and
> > > think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> > > achieved with film (I think?).
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> > >www.garagewoodworks.com
>
> > Great picture and the case looks good too. ;~)
>
> > You can get away with a 3 pic process on the HDR, since it all averages
> > out
> > from one extreme to the other you may not see any difference when takin=
g
> > more pictures.
>
> > BUT what else are you doing...to get the DHR effect? Usually there is a=
n
> > HDR tool...
>
> > Your picture is really well taken..
>
> > For a bit of inspiration take a look at the links below.
>
> > This guy's photographs are what lured me to using HDR a few years ago a=
nd
> > he
> > really has a way of pushing the limits to make the photographs have a
> > painting appearance.
>
> >http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2347718&forward=3Dviewportfo=
l...
>
> id=3D2329299&forward=3Dviewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/vie=
w?
>
> id=3D2281063&forward=3Dviewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/vie=
w?
>
> id=3D2182327&forward=3Dviewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/vie=
w?
>
> id=3D2058932&forward=3Dviewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/vie=
w?id=3D2051576&forward=3Dviewportfol...
>
> Looks I need an account to view those, aside from the first (which is
> awesome!). =A0 Thanks.
>
> Pretty cool, =A0the links got screwed up, you don't need an account IIRC.
>
> Here are a couple I took with HDR and "with out". =A0I screwed up the lig=
hting
> on the HDR, of course, the back lighting lightened the left side of the f=
oot
> board.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4275428546/in/photostream/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4275442450/in/photostream/
Nice! And I especially like the furniture.
On Jan 15, 8:07=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:fXR3n.98105$N07.8269=
[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:3a53bf8e-26a7-4968-a9f9-fc95343aee0a@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com..=
.
> >> On Jan 14, 8:03 pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> =A0 =A0 A cable release works well, too. =A0In the digital realm they=
have
> >>> come
> >>> electronic triggers.
>
> >> Only problem is that unless using autobracket, I will need to change
> >> the shutter speed.
>
> > =A0 =A0Yes, set your camera to aperture priority to prevent depth of fi=
eld
> > from changing from one exposure to the next. =A0Shooting in RAW is also=
a
> > requirement for HDR though I do believe that jpgs are required for
> > "exposure blending."
>
> Actually you want the apature to change during autobracketing when shooti=
ng
> for HDR pictures. =A0You are not really looking for shutter speed changes=
.
You want DOF to remain the same, so shutter speed it is... unless a
CCD suffers from reciprocity problems.
If you're shooting in bright conditions with a wide angle, DOF isn't
much of an issue, so the aperture option opens up.
On Jan 14, 4:48=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> because it was so cold. =A0After reading about HDR photog (on the
> wrec) =A0 I decided to try it out. =A0The latest assembled picture is a
> composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. =A0 I like the results and
> think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> achieved with film (I think?).
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> www.garagewoodworks.com
I have found that one over and one under bracketing is lots. You don't
really gain from all those steps in between.
I'm glad to see you didn't go overboard with the process. Less is more.
That was one of the pleasures of shooting that good old Kodachrome 25.
That stuff was so slow, you almost always shot wide open so outdoor
portraits (although not an ideal film for portraits) had the
background turn into this fantastic blur of colours off-setting the
focused element of the shot as if it was 3D-looking. 64 was a bit more
versatile, but either film was full of lies...nice lies, but lies
nonetheless.
I started using HDR shots when I needed the shadow detail for texture
bump-maps for use in Strata. One shot 'over' would usually all I'd
need to add to the texture.
Yup, Sony with a floppy.
On Jan 14, 8:03=A0pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> >> > HDR photog
>
> >> Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Go=
t
> >> to check it out.
>
> > Thank you Swing! =A0It is really cool. =A0I have been playing around wi=
th
> > HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
> > Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
> > fast camera). =A0I have also found that the results get better if I
> > drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. =A0This way there is
> > absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
>
> =A0 =A0 A cable release works well, too. =A0In the digital realm they hav=
e come
> electronic triggers.
Only problem is that unless using autobracket, I will need to change
the shutter speed.
> =A0 =A0 Here is the Photomatix web link. =A0You can download a trial vers=
ion, same
> as the paid-for version except for the watermarks.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.hdrsoft.com/
Thanks.
>
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Dave in Houston
> =A0 =A0 =A0 flickr :: HaveNikon_WillTravelhttp://www.pbase.com/speedracer
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Actually my current camers does auto bracketing in a small variety of
> modes including simulated film mode and Dynamic Range mode which changes
> the simulated film speed..
>
> Oddly AE Autobracketing in Apeture or Shutter priority results in a fixed
> shutter speed with apeture changes for the 3 exposures. Autobracketind in
> Program mode however changes the shutter speed and leaves the apeture the
> same...
>
> Actually I think/know that you can chose either mode shutter or apeture
> and get the necessary exposures however I can see an advantage of
> chooseing one over the other especially if you want a sharp crisp picture.
What is your current go-to camera?
Dave in Houston
On Jan 14, 7:56=A0pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Looks I need an account to view those, aside from the first (which is
> > awesome!). =A0 Thanks.
>
> =A0 =A0 You shouldn't need an account to browse through these:http://www.=
flickr.com/search/?q=3DHDR&w=3Dall
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Dave in Houston
> =A0 =A0 =A0flickr :: HaveNikon_WillTravelhttp://www.pbase.com/speedracer
Awesome! Thank you.
"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:3a53bf8e-26a7-4968-a9f9-fc95343aee0a@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 14, 8:03 pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> A cable release works well, too. In the digital realm they have
>>> come
>>> electronic triggers.
>>
>> Only problem is that unless using autobracket, I will need to change
>> the shutter speed.
>
> Yes, set your camera to aperture priority to prevent depth of field
> from changing from one exposure to the next.
Shooting in RAW is also a
> requirement for HDR though I do believe that jpgs are required for
> "exposure blending."
Not correct, I never shood in RAW for HDR, always jpg.
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:48:06 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
>because it was so cold. After reading about HDR photog (on the
>wrec) I decided to try it out. The latest assembled picture is a
>composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. I like the results and
>think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
>achieved with film (I think?).
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
OH, Brian. I'm so sorry. Did you drag the face on something? Will
they sand out?
I see 3 horribly deep gouges in each of the front posts!
--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln
On Jan 15, 3:56=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/15/2010 2:50 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > As Canadians, we're pretty proud of RIM, but Corel can take a hike.
>
> I like RIM also ... just wish they'd get off the GML quest and get back
> to dancing with who brung'em ... if I wanted to play games, I wouldn't
> do it on my crackberry.
>
> Lately RIM's been leaning toward consumer driven, instead of business
> driven ... screw a bunch of ADHD twits and their jesus phone complex.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Could not agree more. If I want to play a game, I'll borrow my kid's
Playstation and hook it up to my plasma.
Other than that, my Blackberry is my life-line. SMS, as well as eMail
and of course, convos.
The only other app I have ever used on my BB, is the GPS trying to
find an address whilst walking around during the Montreal Jazz
Festival. (Isn't 'whilst' a cool word?? LOL).. oh and the weather
report.
I'm pretty much entrenched in Apple computers. My family and I use 5
of them in our household and one is a server. I still couldn't fall
for the eye-candy trap of the iPhone. It's cute and fun...but I ain't
a high school kid anymore. Funny enough, my 16-year old uses a BB too
"the iPod, is oh-so yesterday, daaaad". (Atta girl!)
On 01/14/2010 03:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> because it was so cold. After reading about HDR photog (on the
> wrec) I decided to try it out. The latest assembled picture is a
> composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. I like the results and
> think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> achieved with film (I think?).
Film generally has higher dynamic range to start with, so you can play
games at scanning time (if digitizing later) or at printing time (if
using wet chemistry).
Rather than driving from a laptop, my DSLR has the option to
automatically take up to 7 shots with configurable EV differences
between the shots. I can then set it on a 2 second delay before the
initial shot to avoid mirror slap issues.
Chris
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looks I need an account to view those, aside from the first (which is
> awesome!). Thanks.
You shouldn't need an account to browse through these:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=HDR&w=all
--
Dave in Houston
flickr :: HaveNikon_WillTravel
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer
On Jan 14, 11:55=A0pm, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:48:06 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> >because it was so cold. =A0After reading about HDR photog (on the
> >wrec) =A0 I decided to try it out. =A0The latest assembled picture is a
> >composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. =A0 I like the results and
> >think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> >achieved with film (I think?).
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> OH, Brian. I'm so sorry. Did you drag the face on something? =A0Will
> they sand out? =A0
>
> I see 3 horribly deep gouges in each of the front posts!
I was hoping nobody would notice. :^(
Thanks a lot for pointing it out to everyone!
>
> --
> The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
> of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -=
-Abraham Lincoln
On Jan 15, 3:39=A0pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, TIF(F) files are huge, but when compressed with LZW, it is a
lossless compression. But the effectiveness of .lzw compression
depends on the content. A picture with leaves and grass won't compress
very well, but a nightscape or a snowy field would compress nicely.
"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip
>>
>>
>> Not correct, I never shood in RAW for HDR, always jpg.
>
> I can no longer remember where I got that idea. I had to go into some
> of my bracketed RAW files, convert them to jpgs just to run them back
> through Photomatix to see for myself - voila. I know that Photomatix
> recommends jpgs or tiff files for the exposure fusion option but cannot
> conjure up a clue as to where I got the RAW-file-only brain fart. Chalk
> that up to input overload.
>
> Dave in Houston
I hear you.. ultimately you get a better result in RAW IIRC... ;~) But man
those things are big..
I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years, since it was free IIRC.
Version 3.?
Currently this program X2 has an HDR function and the function is pretty
simple. The program has not been as good since Corel purchased it from JASC
but the program has a lot of bang for the buck.
On 1/15/2010 2:50 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> As Canadians, we're pretty proud of RIM, but Corel can take a hike.
I like RIM also ... just wish they'd get off the GML quest and get back
to dancing with who brung'em ... if I wanted to play games, I wouldn't
do it on my crackberry.
Lately RIM's been leaning toward consumer driven, instead of business
driven ... screw a bunch of ADHD twits and their jesus phone complex.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/15/2010 11:19 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years, since it was free IIRC.
>> Version 3.?
>>
>> Currently this program X2 has an HDR function and the function is pretty
>> simple. The program has not been as good since Corel purchased it from
>> JASC
>> but the program has a lot of bang for the buck.
>
> Still using JASC version of PSP 6.02 ... runs fine under Vista. Basically
> refuse to load ANY Corel and their bloated POS' ... really hated to see
> JASC sell out back then.
A common refrain amongst the long-time users that frequent the Corel
Servers' newsgroups. The consensus is that Corel has thinned the ranks of
its code writers to the point that PSP gets scant attention anymore and
therefore has not begun to keep up with the competition. That and all the
firesale prices you see (FREE after rebate!) lend rise to the idea that it
will be history in the not-too-distant future. Of late I get email offers
from Corel almost weekly.
I do miss Word Perfect, v8 being the last we had.
Dave in Houston
On 01/14/2010 04:09 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Jan 14, 5:01 pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Rather than driving from a laptop, my DSLR has the option to
>> automatically take up to 7 shots with configurable EV differences
>> between the shots. I can then set it on a 2 second delay before the
>> initial shot to avoid mirror slap issues.
> That's pretty cool. What are you shooting with? I have a Canon
> DSLR Rebel XT (with cheap lens). I can bracket shots (one under and
> over at a 2EV max).
> I like the idea of the 7 configurable shots.
I use a Sony A700. Didn't want to get rid of my Minolta glass.
Checking the specs, it appears I misspoke. It's either 3 or 5 shots,
not 7. I haven't played with the HDR options much, but I think I can
set it to up to +/-2 stops between shots.
Chris
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That was one of the pleasures of shooting that good old Kodachrome 25.
> That stuff was so slow, you almost always shot wide open so outdoor
> portraits (although not an ideal film for portraits) had the
> background turn into this fantastic blur of colours off-setting the
> focused element of the shot as if it was 3D-looking. 64 was a bit more
> versatile, but either film was full of lies...nice lies, but lies
> nonetheless.
Exactly, the fast short lenses could draw out single area details for that
3D look.
I however also like for everything to be in focus "for certain type shots"
for what I refer to as that "Old Timey Painting" look. Basically the
opposite effect.
On 1/14/2010 3:58 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>
>>> HDR photog
>>
>> Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Got
>> to check it out.
>
> Thank you Swing! It is really cool. I have been playing around with
> HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
> Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
> fast camera). I have also found that the results get better if I
> drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. This way there is
> absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
I've been stuck in the stone age of photography since my old Pentax SLR,
that I bought in Hong Kong in the mid 60's, was stolen some years ago,
with nothing but cheap digital point and shoots in the interim.
I hate to open another Pandora's box (Festool'ed hell outta the budget
last month), and although I've done some beautiful pieces, doing justice
to the beauty of the wood for presentation purposes has always been
problematic for my limited equipment and skills. Judging from your
example, HDR is indeed something to explore in that regard.
It simply never dawned on me to explore HDR in that light (no pun
intended) and the planning going into a new web site for the company at
present makes it even more intriguing.
Thanks for the inspiration!! ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> because it was so cold. After reading about HDR photog (on the
> wrec) I decided to try it out. The latest assembled picture is a
> composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. I like the results and
> think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> achieved with film (I think?).
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> www.garagewoodworks.com
Great picture and the case looks good too. ;~)
You can get away with a 3 pic process on the HDR, since it all averages out
from one extreme to the other you may not see any difference when taking
more pictures.
BUT what else are you doing...to get the DHR effect? Usually there is an
HDR tool...
Your picture is really well taken..
For a bit of inspiration take a look at the links below.
This guy's photographs are what lured me to using HDR a few years ago and he
really has a way of pushing the limits to make the photographs have a
painting appearance.
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2347718&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2329299&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2281063&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2182327&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2058932&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2051576&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2000553&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1991085&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1989833&forward=viewportfolio
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> No I mean like the Houston Chronicle buying out the Houston Post.. ;~)
> Unfortunately the Post was pretty much immediately closed down and it's
> employees terminated. That was exactly when I dropped the Chronicle.
You mean Houston's No. 1 information source?
It will soon go the way of the [print] dinosaur, not to mention many
other major metropolitan newspapers that have already bitten the dust.
We used to have a 30 pound Sheltie that would get the Chronicle for me
Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays. The rest of the week it was too heavy or
large for him to get it in his mouth. Now we've got a 14 pound Sheltie that
can fetch it Monday through Friday most weeks.
Dave in Houston
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On Jan 15, 4:43 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in
> messagenews:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > A common refrain amongst the long-time users that frequent the Corel
> > Servers' newsgroups. The consensus is that Corel has thinned the ranks
> > of
> > its code writers to the point that PSP gets scant attention anymore and
> > therefore has not begun to keep up with the competition. That and all
> > the
> > firesale prices you see (FREE after rebate!) lend rise to the idea that
> > it
> > will be history in the not-too-distant future. Of late I get email
> > offers
> > from Corel almost weekly.
>
> That and the version changes are coming much farther in between. Corel
> already had this type software, I would not be surprised at all if they
> were
> simply buying out the competition.
You mean like Adobe buying Aldus and Macromedia?
No I mean like the Houston Chronicle buying out the Houston Post.. ;~)
Unfortunately the Post was pretty much immediately closed down and it's
employees terminated. That was exactly when I dropped the Chronicle.
On 1/15/2010 11:19 AM, Leon wrote:
> I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years, since it was free IIRC.
> Version 3.?
>
> Currently this program X2 has an HDR function and the function is pretty
> simple. The program has not been as good since Corel purchased it from JASC
> but the program has a lot of bang for the buck.
Still using JASC version of PSP 6.02 ... runs fine under Vista.
Basically refuse to load ANY Corel and their bloated POS' ... really
hated to see JASC sell out back then.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > HDR photog
>
> Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Got
> to check it out.
Thank you Swing! It is really cool. I have been playing around with
HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
fast camera). I have also found that the results get better if I
drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. This way there is
absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
Sometimes it helps on indoor work to move the lighting around
between exposures.
I have been playing around with night landscape shots
with an open shutter and painting in the exposure with
a million candle power spotlight, I think I'll HDR some
of those and see what I get.
basilisk
"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:3a53bf8e-26a7-4968-a9f9-fc95343aee0a@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 14, 8:03 pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> A cable release works well, too. In the digital realm they have
>>> come
>>> electronic triggers.
>>
>> Only problem is that unless using autobracket, I will need to change
>> the shutter speed.
>
> Yes, set your camera to aperture priority to prevent depth of field
> from changing from one exposure to the next. Shooting in RAW is also a
> requirement for HDR though I do believe that jpgs are required for
> "exposure blending."
Actually you want the apature to change during autobracketing when shooting
for HDR pictures. You are not really looking for shutter speed changes.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> Yes, set your camera to aperture priority to prevent depth of field
>> from changing from one exposure to the next. Shooting in RAW is also a
>> requirement for HDR though I do believe that jpgs are required for
>> "exposure blending."
>
>
> Actually you want the apature to change during autobracketing when
> shooting for HDR pictures. You are not really looking for shutter speed
> changes.
>
Ok, I can see where both ways would be to an advantage on certain
situations.
I checked my camera and AE autobracketing switches to shutter priority when
in Apeture or Shutter priority mode. It does AE autobracket with Apeture
priority when in Program mode...
On Jan 15, 4:43=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:Fu44n.53455$oC1.4831=
[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > =A0 =A0A common refrain amongst the long-time users that frequent the C=
orel
> > Servers' newsgroups. =A0The consensus is that Corel has thinned the ran=
ks of
> > its code writers to the point that PSP gets scant attention anymore and
> > therefore has not begun to keep up with the competition. =A0That and al=
l the
> > firesale prices you see (FREE after rebate!) lend rise to the idea that=
it
> > will be history in the not-too-distant future. =A0Of late I get email o=
ffers
> > from Corel almost weekly.
>
> That and the version changes are coming much farther in between. =A0Corel
> already had this type software, I would not be surprised at all if they w=
ere
> simply buying out the competition.
You mean like Adobe buying Aldus and Macromedia?
On Jan 14, 4:58=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jan 14, 4:53=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > > HDR photog
>
> > Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Got
> > to check it out.
>
> Thank you Swing! =A0It is really cool. =A0I have been playing around with
> HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
> Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
> fast camera). =A0I have also found that the results get better if I
> drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. =A0This way there is
> absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
>
>
>
>
>
> > --www.e-woodshop.net
> > Last update: 10/22/08
> > KarlC@ (the obvious)
Photomatix Pro will compensate for movement...up to a point and
assuming there are some straight lines it can reference too. But
you're right, can't beat a good tripod.
On Jan 14, 5:01=A0pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 01/14/2010 03:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> > because it was so cold. =A0After reading about HDR photog (on the
> > wrec) =A0 I decided to try it out. =A0The latest assembled picture is a
> > composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. =A0 I like the results and
> > think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> > achieved with film (I think?).
>
> Film generally has higher dynamic range to start with, so you can play
> games at scanning time (if digitizing later) or at printing time (if
> using wet chemistry).
>
> Rather than driving from a laptop, my DSLR has the option to
> automatically take up to 7 shots with configurable EV differences
> between the shots. =A0I can then set it on a 2 second delay before the
> initial shot to avoid mirror slap issues.
>
> Chris
Can't lock it up?
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 1/15/2010 11:19 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years, since it was free IIRC.
>> Version 3.?
>>
>> Currently this program X2 has an HDR function and the function is pretty
>> simple. The program has not been as good since Corel purchased it from
>> JASC
>> but the program has a lot of bang for the buck.
>
> Still using JASC version of PSP 6.02 ... runs fine under Vista. Basically
> refuse to load ANY Corel and their bloated POS' ... really hated to see
> JASC sell out back then.
IIRC Kim has PSP 10 or 11 on her Vista laptop.. Came preloaded however.
IIRC JASC had it up to 8 or 9
"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> A common refrain amongst the long-time users that frequent the Corel
> Servers' newsgroups. The consensus is that Corel has thinned the ranks of
> its code writers to the point that PSP gets scant attention anymore and
> therefore has not begun to keep up with the competition. That and all the
> firesale prices you see (FREE after rebate!) lend rise to the idea that it
> will be history in the not-too-distant future. Of late I get email offers
> from Corel almost weekly.
That and the version changes are coming much farther in between. Corel
already had this type software, I would not be surprised at all if they were
simply buying out the competition.
On Jan 15, 9:35=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/15/2010 8:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Yup, Sony with a floppy.
>
> Mavica? Still have one of latter ones with an optical telephoto lens ...
> in a case in the office closet for the last ten years or so.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
YES! I wracked my brain trying to think of it. Maaaan was that slow
and awkward. I never owned it, it belonged to a friend of mine who in
turn borrowed it from the police dept.
This thing was fixed focal length... 640x480 IIRC.
The first digital camera I bought for myself was a Nikon 885. Then to
a Sony H2, which I still have, That 12x Optical Zeiss is actually
quite good.
Then a 10MP Lumix which I bought strictly for its size as I have it in
my brief case or pocket.... always. That Leica lens does some things
quite well. Amazing little camera for interior shots as it has an
equivalent of a 28 mm wide angle. My kid's Canon Rebel is a wonderful
camera which gets great results.
I am dead serious about getting an M9 Leica at some point. I saw a 20"
x 24" print that just knocked me on my ass... that oughtta shut up
anybody who still clings to analogue/wet photography. That is one sick
little camera.... but a bit pricey. (A guy will always need something
to wish for.)
On Jan 15, 3:46=A0pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On 1/15/2010 11:19 AM, Leon wrote:
>
> >> I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years, since it was free IIR=
C.
> >> Version 3.?
>
> >> Currently this program X2 has an HDR function and the function is pret=
ty
> >> simple. =A0The program has not been as good since Corel purchased it f=
rom
> >> JASC
> >> but the program has a lot of bang for the buck.
>
> > Still using JASC version of PSP 6.02 ... runs fine under Vista. Basical=
ly
> > refuse to load ANY Corel and their bloated POS' ... really hated to see
> > JASC sell out back then.
>
> =A0 =A0 A common refrain amongst the long-time users that frequent the Co=
rel
> Servers' newsgroups. =A0The consensus is that Corel has thinned the ranks=
of
> its code writers to the point that PSP gets scant attention anymore and
> therefore has not begun to keep up with the competition. =A0That and all =
the
> firesale prices you see (FREE after rebate!) lend rise to the idea that i=
t
> will be history in the not-too-distant future. =A0Of late I get email off=
ers
> from Corel almost weekly.
> =A0 =A0 I do miss Word Perfect, v8 being the last we had.
>
> Dave in Houston
Kai Power Tools and Painter are not in tune with the end users anymore
either. And WordPerfect was a standard for a long time, they let it
slip away.
As Canadians, we're pretty proud of RIM, but Corel can take a hike.
On Jan 14, 5:01=A0pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 01/14/2010 03:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> > I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> > because it was so cold. =A0After reading about HDR photog (on the
> > wrec) =A0 I decided to try it out. =A0The latest assembled picture is a
> > composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. =A0 I like the results and
> > think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> > achieved with film (I think?).
>
> Film generally has higher dynamic range to start with, so you can play
> games at scanning time (if digitizing later) or at printing time (if
> using wet chemistry).
>
> Rather than driving from a laptop, my DSLR has the option to
> automatically take up to 7 shots with configurable EV differences
> between the shots. =A0I can then set it on a 2 second delay before the
> initial shot to avoid mirror slap issues.
>
> Chris
That's pretty cool. What are you shooting with? I have a Canon
DSLR Rebel XT (with cheap lens). I can bracket shots (one under and
over at a 2EV max).
I like the idea of the 7 configurable shots.
On Jan 14, 5:31=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> > because it was so cold. =A0After reading about HDR photog (on the
> > wrec) =A0 I decided to try it out. =A0The latest assembled picture is a
> > composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. =A0 I like the results and
> > think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> > achieved with film (I think?).
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >www.garagewoodworks.com
>
> Great picture and the case looks good too. =A0;~)
>
> You can get away with a 3 pic process on the HDR, since it all averages o=
ut
> from one extreme to the other you may not see any difference when taking
> more pictures.
>
> BUT what else are you doing...to get the DHR effect? =A0Usually there is =
an
> HDR tool...
>
> Your picture is really well taken..
>
> For a bit of inspiration take a look at the links below.
>
> This guy's photographs are what lured me to using HDR a few years ago and=
he
> really has a way of pushing the limits to make the photographs have a
> painting appearance.
>
> http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2347718&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2329299&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2281063&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2182327&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2058932&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2051576&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D2000553&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D1991085&forward=3Dviewportfol=
iohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=3D1989833&forward=3Dviewportfol=
io
Looks I need an account to view those, aside from the first (which is
awesome!). Thanks.
On Jan 14, 5:14=A0pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 01/14/2010 04:04 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > I have found that one over and one under bracketing is lots. You don't
> > really gain from all those steps in between.
>
> Maybe for most shots. =A0If you're shooting in a dim room with backlit
> windows and snow outside you'll need more than one over. =A0:)
>
> Chris
You may want to dip into the shadows a bit by an extra over exposure
(or two) but you're right, in most cases 3 is enough.
Tough to keep the noise out of the shadows in any extreme case.
(I'm saving my money for an M9...as if...)
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jan 14, 4:53 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/14/2010 3:48 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>
>> > HDR photog
>>
>> Excellent work, and you're correct ... the photography is stunning. Got
>> to check it out.
>
> Thank you Swing! It is really cool. I have been playing around with
> HDR for the last couple of days and it is amazing what you can do.
> Only caveat is that you must use a tripod (unless you have a wicked
> fast camera). I have also found that the results get better if I
> drive the camera (on tripod) from a laptop. This way there is
> absolutely no camera movement from exposure to exposure.
A cable release works well, too. In the digital realm they have come
electronic triggers.
Here is the Photomatix web link. You can download a trial version, same
as the paid-for version except for the watermarks.
http://www.hdrsoft.com/
--
Dave in Houston
flickr :: HaveNikon_WillTravel
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 14, 5:31 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I assembled my bookcase last night and let the glue cure inside
> > because it was so cold. After reading about HDR photog (on the
> > wrec) I decided to try it out. The latest assembled picture is a
> > composite of (seven?) photos at varied EV. I like the results and
> > think this opens up a whole new door to digital photog that can't be
> > achieved with film (I think?).
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bookcase.php
>
> >www.garagewoodworks.com
>
> Great picture and the case looks good too. ;~)
>
> You can get away with a 3 pic process on the HDR, since it all averages
> out
> from one extreme to the other you may not see any difference when taking
> more pictures.
>
> BUT what else are you doing...to get the DHR effect? Usually there is an
> HDR tool...
>
> Your picture is really well taken..
>
> For a bit of inspiration take a look at the links below.
>
> This guy's photographs are what lured me to using HDR a few years ago and
> he
> really has a way of pushing the limits to make the photographs have a
> painting appearance.
>
> http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2347718&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?
id=2329299&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?
id=2281063&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?
id=2182327&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?
id=2058932&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2051576&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2000553&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1991085&forward=viewportfoliohttp://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1989833&forward=viewportfolio
Looks I need an account to view those, aside from the first (which is
awesome!). Thanks.
Pretty cool, the links got screwed up, you don't need an account IIRC.
Here are a couple I took with HDR and "with out". I screwed up the lighting
on the HDR, of course, the back lighting lightened the left side of the foot
board.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4275428546/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4275442450/in/photostream/
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jan 14, 8:03 pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> A cable release works well, too. In the digital realm they have come
>> electronic triggers.
>
> Only problem is that unless using autobracket, I will need to change
> the shutter speed.
Yes, set your camera to aperture priority to prevent depth of field from
changing from one exposure to the next. Shooting in RAW is also a
requirement for HDR though I do believe that jpgs are required for "exposure
blending."
--
Dave in Houston
flickr :: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuwave_dave/
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer
On 01/14/2010 04:28 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Jan 14, 5:01 pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Rather than driving from a laptop, my DSLR has the option to
>> automatically take up to 7 shots with configurable EV differences
>> between the shots. I can then set it on a 2 second delay before the
>> initial shot to avoid mirror slap issues.
> Can't lock it up?
The A700 doesn't have a separate mirror lockup. If you set a 2 second
delay then press the shutter release it locks the mirror up then after 2
seconds trips the shutter.
However, you can't mix the delay with the auto bracketing, so if you
want to use mirror lockup with HDR imaging you have to either touch the
camera or drive it via a computer.
I think the A900 has true mirror lockup. It's also a 24MP camera and
costs mucho dinero.
Chris
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I am not into it as much as I was years ago.
Funny, I'm not as much into woodworking as I was just a couple of years
ago (could you tell?). The camera and lenses are much easier to tote around
than the former tools of the trade.
Digital photography has been a game-changer. I've always looked at
photography as the lazy man's art from. And, I certainly resemble that
remark.
Dave in Houston
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Here are a couple I took with HDR and "with out". I screwed up the
> lighting
> on the HDR, of course, the back lighting lightened the left side of the
> foot
> board.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4275428546/in/photostream/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4275442450/in/photostream/
Nice! And I especially like the furniture.
Thank you... those are the tower project, bedroom furniture I am working
on...
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jan 14, 7:56 pm, "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dave in Houston
>> flickr :: HaveNikon_WillTravelhttp://www.pbase.com/speedracer
>
> Awesome! Thank you.
I should change my flickr link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuwave_dave/
--
Dave in Houston
flickr :: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuwave_dave/
http://www.pbase.com/speedracer
"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Actually my current camers does auto bracketing in a small variety of
>> modes including simulated film mode and Dynamic Range mode which changes
>> the simulated film speed..
>>
>> Oddly AE Autobracketing in Apeture or Shutter priority results in a
>> fixed shutter speed with apeture changes for the 3 exposures.
>> Autobracketind in Program mode however changes the shutter speed and
>> leaves the apeture the same...
>>
>> Actually I think/know that you can chose either mode shutter or apeture
>> and get the necessary exposures however I can see an advantage of
>> chooseing one over the other especially if you want a sharp crisp
>> picture.
>
> What is your current go-to camera?
Fujifilm S100FS, after.,.,. a Canon TX, AE-1, A1, EOS 650, EOS630, and a
Fujigilm S602Z
I am not into it as much as I was years ago.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Snip
>>>
>>>
>>> Not correct, I never shood in RAW for HDR, always jpg.
>>
>> I can no longer remember where I got that idea. I had to go into some
>> of my bracketed RAW files, convert them to jpgs just to run them back
>> through Photomatix to see for myself - voila. I know that Photomatix
>> recommends jpgs or tiff files for the exposure fusion option but cannot
>> conjure up a clue as to where I got the RAW-file-only brain fart. Chalk
>> that up to input overload.
>>
>> Dave in Houston
>
> I hear you.. ultimately you get a better result in RAW IIRC... ;~) But
> man those things are big..
Not nearly as big as TIFF files! Those are gargantuan!
Then again, Hard Drive storage is CHEAP these days. I just put a 1T
Barracuda in my desktop for $89+ (and did a clean install of Windows 7 HP).
Now I wish I'd bought a 1T WS MyBook instead of the 500 gig that I did buy
back in 2008.
>
> I have been using Paint Shop Pro for many years, since it was free IIRC.
> Version 3.?
>
> Currently this program X2 has an HDR function and the function is pretty
> simple. The program has not been as good since Corel purchased it from
> JASC but the program has a lot of bang for the buck.
Been using PSP since v.XI, now on v.X2U, the U meaning" ultimate." The
consensus in the Corel newsgroup(s) is that PSP is headed for the scrap
heap. IIRC somebody else recently bought out Corel (another brain fart?).
Don't use it too much any more since I bought the D300 and subsequently
discovered Capture NX, now NX2. Oddly enough I usually do initial tweaking
of HDR files in PSP. Heavy-handed use of 'CLARIFY,' (under Brightness and
Contrast) say, level 6 or 8 gives them an over-the-top, sometimes
surrealistic look. I haven't even tried PSP's HDR function.
Dave in Houston
Maybe these will work better..
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2347718&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2329299&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2281063&forward=viewportfolio
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=2182327&forward=viewportfolio
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"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I am not into it as much as I was years ago.
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> Funny, I'm not as much into woodworking as I was just a couple of years
> ago (could you tell?). The camera and lenses are much easier to tote
> around than the former tools of the trade.
> Digital photography has been a game-changer. I've always looked at
> photography as the lazy man's art from. And, I certainly resemble that
> remark.
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> Dave in Houston
LOL and I got tired of toting the big bag and lenses.
Now I just use an umm errrr uhhhh a small, MAN bag. for the camera.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 15, 8:07 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Actually you want the apature to change during autobracketing when
> shooting
> for HDR pictures. You are not really looking for shutter speed changes.
You want DOF to remain the same, so shutter speed it is... unless a
CCD suffers from reciprocity problems.
If you're shooting in bright conditions with a wide angle, DOF isn't
much of an issue, so the aperture option opens up.
Thinking about that,,,, I believe you are right.... I stand corrected. I
have always read and done autobracketing the pictures to get at least 3
exposures. My oldest cameras that did this automatically did that only in
shutter priority mode so the DOF was changed. So I naturally thought that
way when taking on HDR. DOH I'll have to try that out...
Actually my current camers does auto bracketing in a small variety of modes
including simulated film mode and Dynamic Range mode which changes the
simulated film speed..
Oddly AE Autobracketing in Apeture or Shutter priority results in a fixed
shutter speed with apeture changes for the 3 exposures. Autobracketind in
Program mode however changes the shutter speed and leaves the apeture the
same...
Actually I think/know that you can chose either mode shutter or apeture and
get the necessary exposures however I can see an advantage of chooseing one
over the other especially if you want a sharp crisp picture.