Which first, the mortise or tenon?

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 8:11:49 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote=
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> On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 15:34:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
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> >On 12/27/2017 2:13 PM, Michael wrote:
> >> I normally make the mortise on the mortising machine and then use the =
table saw tenoning jig to match the mortise. But I made the tenons first la=
st week and then the mortises. This process seemed to take much less time a=
s I mortised just inside the pencil lines. What has been your experience?
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> >> Also, I broke the pin on the mortising machine that keeps the handle i=
n position. I've been dropping 10 penny nails in there until they eventuall=
y break too. What/where would you recommend I find an insanely strong cotte=
r pin to stick in there?
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> >> Thanks.
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> >
> >Mortises are first cut and tenons are cut to fit the mortise.
> >
> Leon, I thought you'd say "cut mortises, then insert dominoes." ;-)

You beat me to it! :-)

On 12/27/2017 7:11 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 15:34:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/27/2017 2:13 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> I normally make the mortise on the mortising machine and then use the table saw tenoning jig to match the mortise. But I made the tenons first last week and then the mortises. This process seemed to take much less time as I mortised just inside the pencil lines. What has been your experience?
>>>
>>> Also, I broke the pin on the mortising machine that keeps the handle in position. I've been dropping 10 penny nails in there until they eventually break too. What/where would you recommend I find an insanely strong cotter pin to stick in there?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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>> Mortises are first cut and tenons are cut to fit the mortise.
>>
> Leon, I thought you'd say "cut mortises, then insert dominoes." ;-)
>


Is that not mortises first and then tenons? Floating tenons. LOL

But seriously, it is much easier to cut a perfect tenon than a perfect
mortise, be it with a mortiser or by drill and chisel. Unless you have
a Domino mortiser.

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 15:34:34 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 12/27/2017 2:13 PM, Michael wrote:
>> I normally make the mortise on the mortising machine and then use the table saw tenoning jig to match the mortise. But I made the tenons first last week and then the mortises. This process seemed to take much less time as I mortised just inside the pencil lines. What has been your experience?
>>
>> Also, I broke the pin on the mortising machine that keeps the handle in position. I've been dropping 10 penny nails in there until they eventually break too. What/where would you recommend I find an insanely strong cotter pin to stick in there?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>Mortises are first cut and tenons are cut to fit the mortise.
>
Leon, I thought you'd say "cut mortises, then insert dominoes." ;-)

On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 3:01:25 PM UTC-6, Larry Kraus wrote:
> On 12/27/2017 3:13 PM, Michael wrote:
> > I normally make the mortise on the mortising machine and then use the t=
able saw tenoning jig to match the mortise. But I made the tenons first las=
t week and then the mortises. This process seemed to take much less time as=
I mortised just inside the pencil lines. What has been your experience?
> >=20
> > Also, I broke the pin on the mortising machine that keeps the handle in=
position. I've been dropping 10 penny nails in there until they eventually=
break too. What/where would you recommend I find an insanely strong cotter=
pin to stick in there?
> >=20
> > Thanks.
> >
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> Mortice or tenon first? Whatever works for you. I've done it both=20
> ways, with equally good (or bad) results.
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> Without a make, model or picture, I'd guess the broken part is a roll=20
> pin (Google it). Measure carefully to get the hole diameter and length.=
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> Any decent hardware store should have a pin that will work.

Thanks for the info! I went ahead and contacted Woodcraft about the Wood Ri=
ver mortiser. They immediately said they'd send a replacement free of charg=
e. Good customer service.

On 12/27/2017 2:13 PM, Michael wrote:
> I normally make the mortise on the mortising machine and then use the table saw tenoning jig to match the mortise. But I made the tenons first last week and then the mortises. This process seemed to take much less time as I mortised just inside the pencil lines. What has been your experience?
>
> Also, I broke the pin on the mortising machine that keeps the handle in position. I've been dropping 10 penny nails in there until they eventually break too. What/where would you recommend I find an insanely strong cotter pin to stick in there?
>
> Thanks.
>

Mortises are first cut and tenons are cut to fit the mortise.

On 12/27/2017 3:13 PM, Michael wrote:
> I normally make the mortise on the mortising machine and then use the table saw tenoning jig to match the mortise. But I made the tenons first last week and then the mortises. This process seemed to take much less time as I mortised just inside the pencil lines. What has been your experience?
>
> Also, I broke the pin on the mortising machine that keeps the handle in position. I've been dropping 10 penny nails in there until they eventually break too. What/where would you recommend I find an insanely strong cotter pin to stick in there?
>
> Thanks.
>

Mortice or tenon first? Whatever works for you. I've done it both
ways, with equally good (or bad) results.

Without a make, model or picture, I'd guess the broken part is a roll
pin (Google it). Measure carefully to get the hole diameter and length.
Any decent hardware store should have a pin that will work.