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samson the builder

17/01/2009 8:41 PM

Jet JBM-5 Bench Mortiser



Anyone have any experience with this one? What are your
thoughts?

Thanks,

s


This topic has 9 replies

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

19/01/2009 7:56 PM

There seems to be always be something
that needs to be adjusted on the mortiser.

The better bit sets are fairly expensive.

The router just seems to be a natural for
"most" mortising once you get a decent
jig and setup.

I bought my Delta mortising machine for the
exact same reasons you have and the results
didn't come as expected. It was a expensive
lesson.

The MUCH larger mortising machines like the
Powermatic
http://www.toolking.com/products/11041587.aspx?googlebase=1791264K
don't suffer from the same problems their smaller
cousins seem to have.



samson the builder wrote:

> Thanks, Pat. I've made and used a mortising jig before,
> but I thought a dedicated mortiser would make things
> even easier. I guess not.
>
> I'll have to take my little wad of cash and buy a
> different tool.
>
> Thanks,
>
> s

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

18/01/2009 1:17 AM

"samson the builder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, boat042-
> [email protected] says...>
>> "samson the builder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyone have any experience with this one? What are your
>> > thoughts?
>>
>> It works well enough. Do you have specific concerns?
>
> Not really. I just need something decent for a mid-range
> home woodworker that will last a good long while.

There's nothing remarkable to say about it. It just quietly puts square
holes into the stock. The small base is tippy. Bolt it to a base plate with
the supplied bolts. Keep the chisels sharp with a rattail file. It's a
little fiddly with setting the chisel parallel to the board edge, and
setting the bit clearance. Again, nothing remarkable; just needs doing. Mine
lives in a locker under the small tool counter. I'd almost try to talk you
out of it, but sometimes it's better suited than any other tool. I use the
router table more often for the dust collection. Router cut mortises tend to
look sharp and crisp, while the mortiser can leave it looking a bit ratty. I
think that sums it up. I'm glad to have the choice, but very few times is it
the only tool for the job.

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samson the builder

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

17/01/2009 9:31 PM

In article <[email protected]>, boat042-
[email protected] says...>
> "samson the builder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with this one? What are your
> > thoughts?
>
> It works well enough. Do you have specific concerns?

Not really. I just need something decent for a mid-range
home woodworker that will last a good long while.

s

st

samson the builder

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

19/01/2009 12:46 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...>
> I have a mortiser and after learning how to
> use jigs and a router, I much prefer the
> router.
>
> http://www.woodsmith.com/issues/147/videos/setting-up-and-using-the-router-jig/
> or
> http://www.shopnotes.com/issues/090/extras/plunge-router-mortising-jig/
>
>
> samson the builder wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with this one? What are your
> > thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > s

Thanks, Pat. I've made and used a mortising jig before,
but I thought a dedicated mortiser would make things
even easier. I guess not.

I'll have to take my little wad of cash and buy a
different tool.

Thanks,

s

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

19/01/2009 5:09 PM

Pat Barber wrote:
> I have a mortiser and after learning how to
> use jigs and a router, I much prefer the
> router.
>

I also have a mortiser, but not the aforementioned, and that makes one
of us. <G>

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

19/01/2009 2:32 PM

Pat Barber wrote:
> The router just seems to be a natural for
> "most" mortising once you get a decent
> jig and setup.
>

If were doing production work for which I need a bunch of repeated
mortising, I would go with a dedicated machine.

If I needed 8 or 16 for a bed or big table or something as a one off
custom job, I would be tempted to make a jog and use the router.

But in the one video someone posted, by the time the guy had the jig
setup with the stock clamped up, someone with sharp tools could've
drilled and chiseled the things out. Surely, in the time it takes to
make the jig, the other ones could be done as well. And yeah, you'd
have the jig done and ready for the next time around.

I think we should all have to do a thing by hand, before using a power
tool or dedicated machine to do the thing, for a couple reasons.
A. It helps you really appreciated the power tool or dedicated machine,
having once done them my hand.
II. It gives you the experience needed for determining if the power tool
or dedicated machine is really worth the extra money, and if it's
*really* saving you time/effort or not.



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-MIKE-

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dw

"d.williams"

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

19/01/2009 6:22 PM


"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pat Barber wrote:
>> I have a mortiser and after learning how to
>> use jigs and a router, I much prefer the
>> router.
>>
>
> I also have a mortiser, but not the aforementioned, and that makes one of
> us. <G>

I have the Delta 14-651 mortiser, under $300, I like it. Easy to set up,
once the settings (the back fence, and the depth) are locked in, I trust
them and have not had any trouble having to readjust. I just made a radiator
cover with 24 slats spread out over 50 inches and found it to be very quick
and accurate. Basically 48 - 3/8" square plunge cuts. In that case I
wouldn't imagine a router jig being as fast. Not intending to say that it's
the only way, but it was slick in this case.

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

17/01/2009 9:15 PM

"samson the builder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Anyone have any experience with this one? What are your
> thoughts?

It works well enough. Do you have specific concerns?

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to samson the builder on 17/01/2009 8:41 PM

19/01/2009 3:48 PM

I have a mortiser and after learning how to
use jigs and a router, I much prefer the
router.

http://www.woodsmith.com/issues/147/videos/setting-up-and-using-the-router-jig/
or
http://www.shopnotes.com/issues/090/extras/plunge-router-mortising-jig/


samson the builder wrote:
>
> Anyone have any experience with this one? What are your
> thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> s


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