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13/05/2009 6:29 PM

Jointer Question

I have a general 8" Jointer. When I joint long pieces of wood the
machine cuts the first few inches and not the rest of the piece. With
multiple passes it continues to take off material but only at the
front or first end through the machine. Is my jointer out of line?
Can you have a problem with the infeed or outfeed table on a angle?
Any advice would be appreciated.


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sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to k on 13/05/2009 6:29 PM

14/05/2009 2:25 AM

In article <5dd20ac2-aa05-4b6f-a174-c982d89fcb49@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, k <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a general 8" Jointer. When I joint long pieces of wood the
>machine cuts the first few inches and not the rest of the piece. With
>multiple passes it continues to take off material but only at the
>front or first end through the machine. Is my jointer out of line?
>Can you have a problem with the infeed or outfeed table on a angle?
>Any advice would be appreciated.

First thing to check is to make sure that the infeed and outfeed tables are
parallel -- sounds to me like yours might not be, specifically that they form
an angle less than 180 degrees.

Next check the height of the knives: they should be at exactly the same height
as, or just slightly higher than, the outfeed table. "Just slightly" means not
more than 0.002" (0.05 mm).

Finally, check your technique. Initially, all downward pressure should be
applied to the board on the infeed side. As soon as there is enough of the
board on the outfeed side to hold one of your pushblocks (you *do* use
pushblocks, don't you, not your bare hands? If not, then we need to have a
separate discussion about safety.) then transfer pressure to the outfeed side
and do not apply any pressure over the infeed table. And never, ever apply
pressure over the cutterhead.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to k on 13/05/2009 6:29 PM

14/05/2009 12:03 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:5dd20ac2-aa05-4b6f-a174-c982d89fcb49@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>I have a general 8" Jointer. When I joint long pieces of wood the
>> machine cuts the first few inches and not the rest of the piece. With
>> multiple passes it continues to take off material but only at the
>> front or first end through the machine. Is my jointer out of line?
>> Can you have a problem with the infeed or outfeed table on a angle?
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>Your board is bowed. Try flipping the board over and starting at or near
>the center.

Not sure I agree with you here, Leon -- seems to me that if the board were
bowed, he'd be taking material off of *each* end, not just -- and always --
the leading end.

I think his tables aren't coplanar, but they're close enough that the problem
shows up only when he's jointing something long enough to hang over the end of
the infeed table at the same time that several inches of it are on the outfeed
as well.
>
>Or you can cut the board in half to reduce the amount of waste created to
>straighten the board.

That's a good point. To the OP: unless you *need* the full length, you're
better off cutting the board into shorter segments. For example, if you have
an 8-foot board, and your project calls for 42" pieces, don't try to joint all
8 feet at once. Cut it into two 4-foot sections and joint them separately. The
benefits are:
- less waste, hence thicker stock when you're finished
- takes less time, since you're not removing as much material
- shorter boards are easier to handle...
- ... especially if you have a small or crowded shop (DAMHIKT)
- because they're easier to handle, you get better results too.

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to k on 13/05/2009 6:29 PM

14/05/2009 8:51 AM

Doug Miller wrote:
> That's a good point. To the OP: unless you *need* the full length, you're
> better off cutting the board into shorter segments. For example, if you have
> an 8-foot board, and your project calls for 42" pieces, don't try to joint all
> 8 feet at once. Cut it into two 4-foot sections and joint them separately. The
> benefits are:
> - less waste, hence thicker stock when you're finished
> - takes less time, since you're not removing as much material
> - shorter boards are easier to handle...
> - ... especially if you have a small or crowded shop (DAMHIKT)
> - because they're easier to handle, you get better results too.

Yep, I do that all the time.

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to k on 13/05/2009 6:29 PM

14/05/2009 7:39 AM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>"k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:5dd20ac2-aa05-4b6f-a174-c982d89fcb49@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>>I have a general 8" Jointer. When I joint long pieces of wood the
>>> machine cuts the first few inches and not the rest of the piece. With
>>> multiple passes it continues to take off material but only at the
>>> front or first end through the machine. Is my jointer out of line?
>>> Can you have a problem with the infeed or outfeed table on a angle?
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>Your board is bowed. Try flipping the board over and starting at or near
>>the center.
>
> Not sure I agree with you here, Leon -- seems to me that if the board were
> bowed, he'd be taking material off of *each* end, not just -- and
> always --
> the leading end.

Ahh! I stand corrected, I incorrectly understood both ends. I thought the
problem was a bit too simple to cure.


>
> I think his tables aren't coplanar, but they're close enough that the
> problem
> shows up only when he's jointing something long enough to hang over the
> end of
> the infeed table at the same time that several inches of it are on the
> outfeed
> as well.

You are probably right.



>>
>>Or you can cut the board in half to reduce the amount of waste created to
>>straighten the board.
>
> That's a good point. To the OP: unless you *need* the full length, you're
> better off cutting the board into shorter segments. For example, if you
> have
> an 8-foot board, and your project calls for 42" pieces, don't try to joint
> all
> 8 feet at once. Cut it into two 4-foot sections and joint them separately.
> The
> benefits are:
> - less waste, hence thicker stock when you're finished
> - takes less time, since you're not removing as much material
> - shorter boards are easier to handle...
> - ... especially if you have a small or crowded shop (DAMHIKT)
> - because they're easier to handle, you get better results too.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to k on 13/05/2009 6:29 PM

13/05/2009 9:49 PM


"k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5dd20ac2-aa05-4b6f-a174-c982d89fcb49@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>I have a general 8" Jointer. When I joint long pieces of wood the
> machine cuts the first few inches and not the rest of the piece. With
> multiple passes it continues to take off material but only at the
> front or first end through the machine. Is my jointer out of line?
> Can you have a problem with the infeed or outfeed table on a angle?
> Any advice would be appreciated.

Your board is bowed. Try flipping the board over and starting at or near
the center.

Or you can cut the board in half to reduce the amount of waste created to
straighten the board.


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