GG

Greg Guarino

19/02/2019 10:13 AM

Advice: How to address a curved edge

Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.=20

I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:

https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y

It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is shown in =
schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will be largely obsc=
ured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.=20

I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is less=
likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge, I could j=
ust use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how that looks at =
the edges.=20

I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have only fou=
nd it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4" oak strip at Ho=
me depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it would make the bend, =
but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at me someday (and I don't h=
ave a steamer).=20

Any ideas?


This topic has 31 replies

Di

"Dave in SoTex"

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 10:16 PM

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-5, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> "DerbyDad03" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >
> > I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>
> O/T to your inquiry but an observation based on my experience:
>
> I hope you do not wear bifocal glasses. With your monitors at such an
> elevated level your neck will be constantly cocked back such that you will
> likely experience some kind of repetitive stress discomfort - as I have.
> My own monitor sits such that the top fourth of the screen is
> approximately eye level. Consider, if you have not already done so, a
> full
> frame pair of prescription readers. Mine have helped considerably.
>
> Dave in SoTex

I'm not sure why the post you responded to was attributed to me. Bad
snippage, perhaps?

Me either.

DinSoTex

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 1:58 PM

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:55:18 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> I have used this before. My problem with it is that you really can't ease the edges very much or very well. I would much prefer a thicker material.

You have used what before? There is no context for your comment, not even the
handle of the person who you are responding to.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 7:36 PM

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 4:58:41 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:55:18 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > I have used this before. My problem with it is that you really can't ease the edges very much or very well. I would much prefer a thicker material.
>
> You have used what before? There is no context for your comment, not even the
> handle of the person who you are responding to.

That was possibly my first attempt at posting from a phone. I'm not sure why nothing was quoted, but it was "iron-on" veneer rolls that I have used before.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 10:20 AM

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.=20
>=20
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>=20
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>=20
> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is shown i=
n schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will be largely ob=
scured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.=20
>=20
> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is le=
ss likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge, I could=
just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how that looks a=
t the edges.=20
>=20
> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have only f=
ound it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4" oak strip at =
Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it would make the bend=
, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at me someday (and I don't=
have a steamer).=20
>=20
> Any ideas?

Do you have a table or band saw?

You could rip strips much thinner than 1/4" that glue would easily hold.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 7:58 PM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:36:54 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:11:25 PM UTC-6, gray_wolf wrote:
> > On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > > Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> > >=20
> > > I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> > >=20
> > > https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> > >=20
> >=20
> > Stunning photos on your flickr site. What camera are you using?
>=20
> Those really are some terrific pictures, especially the lighted city scap=
es. With those old B&Ws, it looks like the talent runs in the family.

Thanks a lot. After my parents passed on, I discovered a trove of old negat=
ives and slides. I've been slowly scanning them. There are 35mm slides and =
negatives from the Argus rangefinder they had when they were first married =
(in 1952), plus 2x2 and even 4x5 negatives! Each set is a new little treasu=
re.

e

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

21/02/2019 3:04 AM

I just ripped some 3/16 mahogany strips to glue onto a 24" round plywood lazy susan. It bent and glued easily. I did the math and cut the banding to the required circumference. I have a calculater app that does the math for me.

https://www.vineyarddetails.com

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 7:39 PM

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 4:15:04 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Greg Guarino <[email protected]> writes:
> >Yes, I neglected to mention my limitations. I do not have either a table saw or much of a band saw. Although getting a table saw is on my list, finally. Probably not soon enough for this project, though.
>
> You could do the whole thing in hardwood with a jack plane, a handsaw,
> a coping saw and a block plane with a bit of practice.

I could (and might) do the whole thing in hardwood, which would solve the "edge" issue. But whatever the material, there will be motors involved. :)

Mm

Michael

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

23/02/2019 7:09 AM

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:29:58 PM UTC-6, gray_wolf wrote:
> On 2/20/2019 9:52 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:11:25 PM UTC-5, gray_wolf wrote:
> >> On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> >>> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >>>
> >>> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >>>
> >>> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> >>>
> >>
> >> Stunning photos on your flickr site. What camera are you using?
> >=20
> > Thanks for the kind words. I have used several cameras over the years. =
Canon AE-1 film cameras, a Kodak 880, and most recently a Nikon D3300. But =
a lot of the New York City photos were actually taken with a phone, a three=
year old Samsung S6. I don't use it for "serious" photos, but my exercise =
"regimen" in my dotage is to walk about four miles a day; I take different =
routes, and I take photos whenever something strikes me.
> >=20
>=20
> It doesn't seem to matter much what you are using. Your technique is top =
drawer.=20
> :-)

Agreed. Years ago, I was at a conference once with my OM-1. A professional=
photographer took a few shots with my camera. When I got the film develope=
d, there was no doubt: It's the craftsman, not the tools.

Mm

Markem

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 4:36 PM

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 12:54:18 -0800 (PST), Greg Guarino
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yes, I neglected to mention my limitations. I do not have either a table saw or much of a band saw. Although getting a table saw is on my list, finally. Probably not soon enough for this project, though.

A sabre saw would do. With that I would glue a trim piece that is
deeper than the curve, then sand to make a nice edge.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 12:55 PM

I have used this before. My problem with it is that you really can't ease the edges very much or very well. I would much prefer a thicker material.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 2:04 PM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-5, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> "DerbyDad03" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >
> > I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>
> O/T to your inquiry but an observation based on my experience:
>
> I hope you do not wear bifocal glasses. With your monitors at such an
> elevated level your neck will be constantly cocked back such that you will
> likely experience some kind of repetitive stress discomfort - as I have.
> My own monitor sits such that the top fourth of the screen is
> approximately eye level. Consider, if you have not already done so, a full
> frame pair of prescription readers. Mine have helped considerably.
>
> Dave in SoTex

I'm not sure why the post you responded to was attributed to me. Bad snippage, perhaps?

Ll

Leon

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 12:11 PM

On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>
> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is shown in schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will be largely obscured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.
>
> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is less likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge, I could just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how that looks at the edges.
>
> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have only found it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4" oak strip at Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it would make the bend, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at me someday (and I don't have a steamer).
>
> Any ideas?
>


With a gentle curve like you drawing shows you can easily rip 1/4"
strips and attach. Oak will very easily bend tighter than that. Glue
and brad or pin.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 12:20 PM

On 2/20/2019 8:14 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> "DerbyDad03"  wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>>
>> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>
>    O/T to your inquiry but an observation based on my experience:
>
>    I hope you do not wear bifocal glasses.  With your monitors at such
> an elevated level your neck will be constantly cocked back such that you
> will likely experience some kind of repetitive stress discomfort - as I
> have.
>    My own monitor sits such that the top fourth of the screen is
> approximately eye level.  Consider, if you have not already done so, a
> full frame pair of prescription readers.  Mine have helped considerably.
>
> Dave in SoTex

Excellent point!!!

FWIW my monitor is lifted 4" above my desk top and I certainly would not
want it any further up whether I wore glasses or not.

You want to be able to see the screen and the keyboard with out moving
our head.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 12:54 PM

Yes, I neglected to mention my limitations. I do not have either a table saw or much of a band saw. Although getting a table saw is on my list, finally. Probably not soon enough for this project, though.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 7:52 PM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:11:25 PM UTC-5, gray_wolf wrote:
> On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >=20
> > I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >=20
> > https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> >=20
>=20
> Stunning photos on your flickr site. What camera are you using?

Thanks for the kind words. I have used several cameras over the years. Cano=
n AE-1 film cameras, a Kodak 880, and most recently a Nikon D3300. But a lo=
t of the New York City photos were actually taken with a phone, a three yea=
r old Samsung S6. I don't use it for "serious" photos, but my exercise "reg=
imen" in my dotage is to walk about four miles a day; I take different rout=
es, and I take photos whenever something strikes me.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

21/02/2019 3:53 AM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:14:41 AM UTC-5, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> > "DerbyDad03" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > > Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> > >
> > > I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> > >
> > > https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> >
> > O/T to your inquiry but an observation based on my experience:
> >
> > I hope you do not wear bifocal glasses. With your monitors at such an
> > elevated level your neck will be constantly cocked back such that you will
> > likely experience some kind of repetitive stress discomfort - as I have.
> > My own monitor sits such that the top fourth of the screen is
> > approximately eye level. Consider, if you have not already done so, a full
> > frame pair of prescription readers. Mine have helped considerably.
> >
> > Dave in SoTex
>
> I'm not sure why the post you responded to was attributed to me. Bad snippage, perhaps?

Not sure either. When I was more active on newsgroups I had a real newsreader, but lately I've been using the accursed Google Groups.

Mm

Michael

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 6:36 PM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:11:25 PM UTC-6, gray_wolf wrote:
> On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> > Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >
> > I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> >
>
> Stunning photos on your flickr site. What camera are you using?

Those really are some terrific pictures, especially the lighted city scapes. With those old B&Ws, it looks like the talent runs in the family.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 12:05 PM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:20:19 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 2/20/2019 8:14 AM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> > "DerbyDad03"=C2=A0 wrote in message=20
> > news:[email protected]...
> >=20
> > On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> >> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >>
> >> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >>
> >> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> >=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 O/T to your inquiry but an observation based on my experi=
ence:
> >=20
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 I hope you do not wear bifocal glasses.=C2=A0 With your m=
onitors at such=20
> > an elevated level your neck will be constantly cocked back such that yo=
u=20
> > will likely experience some kind of repetitive stress discomfort - as I=
=20
> > have.
> > =C2=A0=C2=A0 My own monitor sits such that the top fourth of the scree=
n is=20
> > approximately eye level.=C2=A0 Consider, if you have not already done s=
o, a=20
> > full frame pair of prescription readers.=C2=A0 Mine have helped conside=
rably.
> >=20
> > Dave in SoTex
>=20
> Excellent point!!!
>=20
> FWIW my monitor is lifted 4" above my desk top and I certainly would not=
=20
> want it any further up whether I wore glasses or not.
>=20
> You want to be able to see the screen and the keyboard with out moving=20
> our head.

I don't wear bifocals. My old shelf kept the monitors considerably higher t=
han 4", but I thought they were a little low for my taste. I have jury-rigg=
ed a temporary shelf that I have decided is a little high, but I intend to =
try out different heights before I settle on the design. I had already chan=
ged it before I posted here, but the curve was the same, so it didn't matte=
r.=20

While I will occasionally type emails and do other work like that, I won't =
be using a (QWERTY) keyboard that much. My main keyboard has 88 keys. :) Bu=
t I do have an audio mixer and some other controllers that I want to fit un=
derneath the monitor "bridge".

gg

gray_wolf

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 8:11 PM

On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>

Stunning photos on your flickr site. What camera are you using?

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 7:23 AM

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 9:39:12 PM UTC-6, Greg Guarino wrote:

> I could (and might) do the whole thing in hardwood, which would solve the "edge" issue. But whatever the material, there will be motors involved. :)

How about asking a local cabinet shop to cut some laminate strips for you? Shouldn't cost too terribly much.... might even do it for free, for such a small job. Just show them your plans.

Sonny

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 11:07 AM

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.=20
>=20
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>=20
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>=20
> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is shown i=
n schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will be largely ob=
scured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.=20
>=20
> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is le=
ss likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge, I could=
just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how that looks a=
t the edges.=20
>=20
> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have only f=
ound it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4" oak strip at =
Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it would make the bend=
, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at me someday (and I don't=
have a steamer).=20
>=20
> Any ideas?

P.S.

I made a half dozen of these to glue on the 1/8" poplar edge banding for=20
some plywood shelves that I recently made. Cheap and easy, work great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dqttn0GqifAQ

I made the edging just slightly oversized, which makes it easier to center,
then a quick pass with the router leaves a perfectly flush edge.

If you choose to round-over the edges, the seam will virtually disappear.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 7:43 PM

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:55:17 PM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
> On 2/20/2019 1:11 PM, Leon wrote:
> > On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> >> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
> >>
> >> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
> >>
> >> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
> >>
> >> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is
> >> shown in schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will
> >> be largely obscured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.
> >>
> >> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is
> >> less likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge,
> >> I could just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how
> >> that looks at the edges.
> >>
> >> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have
> >> only found it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4"
> >> oak strip at Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it
> >> would make the bend, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at
> >> me someday (and I don't have a steamer).
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
>=20
> > With a gentle curve like you drawing shows you can easily rip 1/4"
> > strips and attach. Oak will very easily bend tighter than that. Glue
> > and brad or pin.
> ++1
>=20
> The other option is not to put a curve on it to begin with. This is=20
> particularly true if you don't have tools to shape and smooth the curve.=
=20
> This type of "bridge" commonly has no curve so that option may not be as=
=20
> nice, but still worth consideration.

I have had some success with curves:

https://flic.kr/p/ndmKyy

https://flic.kr/p/spubfs

https://flic.kr/p/nP66fR

In this case, the ends of the "bridge" need to be deep enough to hold the s=
peakers, as well as a couple of pieces of gear that I don't need all the ti=
me (in the little cubbies below the speakers). The middle of the bridge onl=
y needs to be deep enough for the monitor bases and a couple of small audio=
"boxes" underneath. And, I want to be able to see the mixer controls a lit=
tle more easily; the cutout should help some.=20

Incidentally, has anyone here used the "Camera Position" function in Sketch=
up? I figured it out the other day and it has helped me to estimate what wi=
ll be in my sight line from my sitting position at the desk.=20

So: I could have simply made the middle section less deep, but in a straigh=
t line and square corners. I just think the curve is more elegant looking. =
Anyway, pattern-routing is fun. Although in this case I will have to use th=
e router handheld rather than my (small, crappy) table.=20

Here's the latest iteration:

https://flic.kr/p/2eLZrwC

Di

"Dave in SoTex"

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 8:14 AM

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:13:05 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y

O/T to your inquiry but an observation based on my experience:

I hope you do not wear bifocal glasses. With your monitors at such an
elevated level your neck will be constantly cocked back such that you will
likely experience some kind of repetitive stress discomfort - as I have.
My own monitor sits such that the top fourth of the screen is
approximately eye level. Consider, if you have not already done so, a full
frame pair of prescription readers. Mine have helped considerably.

Dave in SoTex

gg

gray_wolf

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

21/02/2019 3:29 PM

On 2/20/2019 9:52 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:11:25 PM UTC-5, gray_wolf wrote:
>> On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>>>
>>> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>>>
>>
>> Stunning photos on your flickr site. What camera are you using?
>
> Thanks for the kind words. I have used several cameras over the years. Canon AE-1 film cameras, a Kodak 880, and most recently a Nikon D3300. But a lot of the New York City photos were actually taken with a phone, a three year old Samsung S6. I don't use it for "serious" photos, but my exercise "regimen" in my dotage is to walk about four miles a day; I take different routes, and I take photos whenever something strikes me.
>

It doesn't seem to matter much what you are using. Your technique is top drawer.
:-)
I got the D3400 two years back on a black Friday sale. I wish it handled like my
D90.

I got bit by the camera bug back in the late '70s. Then I really went nuts with
Pentax 6x7, 4x5 and had my own color darkroom. In the late '80s I bought into
the Nikon N90s, Hasselblad 500 CM and a Linhof 4x5 monorail.

It was a blast. My friend, the manager of a downtown camera store pushed me over
the cliff with a deal on the 6x7. I used to complain to him that he never told
me how much money I'd be spending. He said "yeah but if there was anything more
fun I should let him know."

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 3:05 PM

On 2/19/19 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>
> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is
> shown in schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will
> be largely obscured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look
> nice.
>
> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply
> is less likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved
> edge, I could just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy
> about how that looks at the edges.
>
> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have
> only found it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4"
> oak strip at Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it
> would make the bend, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself
> at me someday (and I don't have a steamer).
>
> Any ideas?
>

Whenever I rip poplar, birch, or maple, I'm always very surprised at how
flexible the thinner cut-offs are.
A strip of any of the above 1/8"-3/16" thick could *easily* make that
bend.
Glue, clamp, an hour later it's on there forever.

You could probably get thicker piece to bend to that radius, but it's
probably not necessary.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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Jj

Jack

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

20/02/2019 4:55 PM

On 2/20/2019 1:11 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>>
>> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>>
>> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is
>> shown in schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will
>> be largely obscured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.
>>
>> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is
>> less likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge,
>> I could just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how
>> that looks at the edges.
>>
>> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have
>> only found it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4"
>> oak strip at Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it
>> would make the bend, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at
>> me someday (and I don't have a steamer).
>>
>> Any ideas?

> With a gentle curve like you drawing shows you can easily rip 1/4"
> strips and attach. Oak will very easily bend tighter than that. Glue
> and brad or pin.
++1

The other option is not to put a curve on it to begin with. This is
particularly true if you don't have tools to shape and smooth the curve.
This type of "bridge" commonly has no curve so that option may not be as
nice, but still worth consideration.

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

21/02/2019 9:54 AM

On 2/21/19 5:04 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I just ripped some 3/16 mahogany strips to glue onto a 24" round
> plywood lazy susan. It bent and glued easily. I did the math and cut
> the banding to the required circumference. I have a calculater app
> that does the math for me.
>
> https://www.vineyarddetails.com
>

The math? You mean Pi(D)? :-p

Nice woodwork, by the way.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

Jj

Jack

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

22/02/2019 10:14 AM

On 2/20/2019 10:43 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:55:17 PM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
>> On 2/20/2019 1:11 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 2/19/2019 12:13 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:

>>>> Any ideas?
>>
>>> With a gentle curve like you drawing shows you can easily rip 1/4"
>>> strips and attach. Oak will very easily bend tighter than that. Glue
>>> and brad or pin.

>> ++1

>> The other option is not to put a curve on it to begin with. This is
>> particularly true if you don't have tools to shape and smooth the curve.
>> This type of "bridge" commonly has no curve so that option may not be as
>> nice, but still worth consideration.
>
> I have had some success with curves:

Yes!

> I just think the curve is more elegant looking. Anyway, pattern-routing is fun. Although in this case
> I will have to use the router handheld rather than my (small, crappy) table.

In that case, 1/4" oak should be no problem, as Leon suggested.
Particularly quarter sawn (straight grain)

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 9:10 PM

Greg Guarino <[email protected]> writes:
>Yes, I neglected to mention my limitations. I do not have either a table saw or much of a band saw. Although getting a table saw is on my list, finally. Probably not soon enough for this project, though.

You could do the whole thing in hardwood with a jack plane, a handsaw,
a coping saw and a block plane with a bit of practice.

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 1:26 PM

On 2/19/2019 11:13 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> Been awhile since I've posted here. I'm a weekend hobbyist at best.
>
> I'm planning out a "bridge" to sit on my desk:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/SGc97Y
>
> It is to help organize my music recording setup, some of which is shown in schematic form.This is a fairly utilitarian piece that will be largely obscured by the stuff on it, but I'd like it to look nice.
>
> I'd like to make it from plywood. It will be 6' long and figure ply is less likely to be twisted, cupped, etc. But there's that curved edge, I could just use the iron on edge veneer, but I'm not crazy about how that looks at the edges.
>
> I see that thicker edge banding is made (1.5 and 3mmm), but I have only found it in really large quantities. I tried bending some 1/4" oak strip at Home depot the other day (by hand) and it looks like it would make the bend, but I wouldn't want the piece to launch itself at me someday (and I don't have a steamer).
>
> Any ideas?

Veneer edging $7 for a 25-foot roll. Glue is heat activated.
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=veneer+edging

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to Greg Guarino on 19/02/2019 10:13 AM

19/02/2019 1:47 PM


Random thoughts...

For my desk, I made hardwood T-moulding that glued into slots on the
edges of everything. I did NOT want it to peel off in the future.
http://www.delorie.com/wood/desk/photos/img_1725.html

I don't know how bendable such T-moulding would be, though.

Next thought would be a bent lamination (glue-up, not steamed), so that
there's (1) no "spring" to pop it off, and (2) enough thickness to use
biscuits to hold it in place. Glue two 1/8" strips together in a curve,
to make one 1/4" curved trim piece that's pre-bent.

(if you do this, perhaps using the T-moulding idea for the two flat
parts of trim, and a miter joint, would "capture" the bent part of the
trim between the two flat trim bits)

Lastly, consider hardwood instead of plywood, or baltic birch plywood,
so that a bare edge doesn't look horrible ;-) (it's an excuse to buy a
jointer/planer if you don't have one, because you need "very flat wood" :)


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