Wreckers,
I recently . . . last six months maybe? Saw His Normness building an
entertainment center "inspired by" an antique (My brain says Shaker, but
that's probably my fallback position for "I've no clue.") -- the
inspiring piece was an armoire, but the depth was increased to
accommodate a 27-32" television.
Material was mostly maple plywood.
Wandering about my local bookstore, I found "Classics From the NYW"
which had a similar piece, but it was sized to only accommodate a 19"
television.
I'm nearly certain the piece I saw him build was a good bit larger.
Does anyone recall the piece? Is it published in a book or is it still
in the "for a measured 'draw-ring' please send . . " stage?
Thanks
Charles
Norm = God
As one of the many "unwashed masses" in woodworking, I can only
hope to achieve his level of craft.
When I do, I intend to become very cynical about him.
On the business side, I am sure he is responsible for many
millions of $ in jobs/economy etc. I know I have contributed
my share and continue to do so - and am a better recreational
woodworker because of him.
Norm is a great teacher (from a retired one!)
My 2ç
Lou
> Norm is a carpenter, first and foremost. I have often writhed in
> disgust upon viewing his more than judicious use of brads to hold trim
> and such on his furniture projects...
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:01:48 -0400, Greg G. wrote:
... snip
>
>I wish they would run more of his programs on HGTV, 'cause he's about
>the only thing worth watching on the DIY network.
>
They've got some real winners, don't they? That hyperactive little guy
running the "Warehouse Warriors" comes to mind. Also the college robot
battles and the remote-control a/c shows (seems like they only have one of
those they keep showing). Seems like DIY got the shows that didn't make
the HGTV cut list.
>FWIW,
>
>Greg G.
loutent said:
>Norm = God
Well, I wouldn't go THAT far...
David Marks, perhaps...
>As one of the many "unwashed masses" in woodworking, I can only
>hope to achieve his level of craft.
>
>When I do, I intend to become very cynical about him.
Don't get the wrong idea. I think Norm is a great guy, and pretty
much the one who started the DIY business. I have watched every show
he ever made and have them all on DVD, and you couldn't ask for a
nicer guy. But he is NOT a "fine" woodworker - he is a practical
woodworker. Besides, there is a limited amount of detail you can
cover in a 30 minute show.
>On the business side, I am sure he is responsible for many
>millions of $ in jobs/economy etc. I know I have contributed
>my share and continue to do so - and am a better recreational
>woodworker because of him.
>
>Norm is a great teacher (from a retired one!)
>
>My 2ç
>
>Lou
Agreed - he provided the motivation to get many a woodworker started
in the craft - including myself. But his use of brads in all trimwork
and his choice of finishes is a bit crude. And slathering poly over
everything he builds... well...
But the most unforgivable of sins - he stains cherry with Minwax!
>> Norm is a carpenter, first and foremost. I have often writhed in
>> disgust upon viewing his more than judicious use of brads to hold trim
>> and such on his furniture projects...
FWIW,
Greg G.
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:58:03 -0400, Greg G. <> wrote:
> U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles said:
>
>>Wreckers,
>
>>Does anyone recall the piece? Is it published in a book or is it still
>>in the "for a measured 'draw-ring' please send . . " stage?
>
> Norm has done two projects of this nature that I recall.
>
> The first was Armoire (Entertainment Center) - Project 213
> http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?213
>
> The most recent was Media Press - Project 0307
> http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0307
>
> Have a look at those to see if either fits the bill.
>
> As for either's availability in book form, don't ask me - I don't use
> no steenkin' plans... ;-)
>
The first is the one that's in "Classics From..." book.
The second is the one I'm after, I think. I remember thinking "Gee,
that's a nice piece . . . why's he using so many nails" . . . . which I
suppose is a common feeling wrt his "fine" pieces.
Greg ...
<<Don't get the wrong idea. I think Norm is a great guy, and pretty
much the one who started the DIY business. I have watched every show
he ever made and have them all on DVD, and you couldn't ask for a
nicer guy. But he is NOT a "fine" woodworker - he is a practical
woodworker. Besides, there is a limited amount of detail you can
cover in a 30 minute show.>>
First of all, Norm is a carpenter and a woodworker but I don't recall him
ever claiming to be a "fine" woodworker. In fact he often seems quite
deferential to craftsmen whose experience exceeds his own and whose work he
admires.
My cable company does not carry DIY so I must admit I have watched a lot
more of Norm than I have of David Marks but from what I have seen I would
say Marks is indeed a fine woodworker and his show seems aimed at more
experienced woodworkers. In those same 30 minutes that each man has (more
like 23 minutes, actually), Marks seems to gloss over more of the details as
if he assumes the audience has a fair amount of knowledge, while Norm
explains more of the basics, even if it is something he has covered before.
And another thing. Here in the newsgroup a few people seemed to mock Norm
for his extensive use of (expensive) power tools. So when I finally got to
see Marks, I was a bit surprised that he routinely uses some tools Norm only
dreams about. <g>
Lee
--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
Lee Gordon said:
>Greg ...
>
><<Don't get the wrong idea. I think Norm is a great guy, and pretty
>much the one who started the DIY business. I have watched every show
>he ever made and have them all on DVD, and you couldn't ask for a
>nicer guy. But he is NOT a "fine" woodworker - he is a practical
>woodworker. Besides, there is a limited amount of detail you can
>cover in a 30 minute show.>>
>
>First of all, Norm is a carpenter and a woodworker but I don't recall him
>ever claiming to be a "fine" woodworker. In fact he often seems quite
>deferential to craftsmen whose experience exceeds his own and whose work he
>admires.
>My cable company does not carry DIY so I must admit I have watched a lot
>more of Norm than I have of David Marks but from what I have seen I would
>say Marks is indeed a fine woodworker and his show seems aimed at more
>experienced woodworkers. In those same 30 minutes that each man has (more
>like 23 minutes, actually), Marks seems to gloss over more of the details as
>if he assumes the audience has a fair amount of knowledge, while Norm
>explains more of the basics, even if it is something he has covered before.
>And another thing. Here in the newsgroup a few people seemed to mock Norm
>for his extensive use of (expensive) power tools. So when I finally got to
>see Marks, I was a bit surprised that he routinely uses some tools Norm only
>dreams about. <g>
>
>Lee
Gee, I feel like I'm being chastised... Must be this Bush/Kerry thing
hovering in the air. ;-) Don't worry, Lee - I still love Norm!
Yes, David Marks has quite a few tools that Porter Cable and Delta
aren't ever gonna supply to Norm - one of the more impressive being
the U.S.S Saratoga Joiner. From what I understand, he buys his
equipment used and refurbishes it.
He also uses hand planes - which I hardly ever see Norm use, except
when knocking the edge off of a board.
And finally, Mr. Tung Oil experiments with a variety of finishes, from
Ammonia-fied Oak, to acid etched copper patina coverings.
I wish they would run more of his programs on HGTV, 'cause he's about
the only thing worth watching on the DIY network.
FWIW,
Greg G.
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:00:12 -0400, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Norm = God
>
>As one of the many "unwashed masses" in woodworking, I can only
>hope to achieve his level of craft.
>
>When I do, I intend to become very cynical about him.
That is one of the best lines I've seen here - and there have been a number
of good ones. In fact, you may have expressed a basic concept about
people. Thanks for the thoughtful laugh.
Oh, and I assume you mean Norm's level of craft. And, it is "Him", please.
Or, are you gonna become cynical of God?
U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles said:
>Wreckers,
>Does anyone recall the piece? Is it published in a book or is it still
>in the "for a measured 'draw-ring' please send . . " stage?
Norm has done two projects of this nature that I recall.
The first was Armoire (Entertainment Center) - Project 213
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?213
The most recent was Media Press - Project 0307
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0307
Have a look at those to see if either fits the bill.
As for either's availability in book form, don't ask me - I don't use
no steenkin' plans... ;-)
FWIW,
Greg G.
U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles said:
>On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:58:03 -0400, Greg G. <> wrote:
>> Have a look at those to see if either fits the bill.
>>
>> As for either's availability in book form, don't ask me - I don't use
>> no steenkin' plans... ;-)
>
>The first is the one that's in "Classics From..." book.
>
>The second is the one I'm after, I think. I remember thinking "Gee,
>that's a nice piece . . . why's he using so many nails" . . . . which I
>suppose is a common feeling wrt his "fine" pieces.
Norm is a carpenter, first and foremost. I have often writhed in
disgust upon viewing his more than judicious use of brads to hold trim
and such on his furniture projects...
But considering the finishes he generally uses, I doubt anyone really
notices... ;-)
Greg G.
Charles,
I replied to you by email, did you get it?
Wes
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:03:31 GMT, "U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles" <"Charles
Krug"@cdksystems.com> wrote:
|On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:58:03 -0400, Greg G. <> wrote:
|> U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles said:
|>
|>>Wreckers,
|>
|>>Does anyone recall the piece? Is it published in a book or is it still
|>>in the "for a measured 'draw-ring' please send . . " stage?
|>
|> Norm has done two projects of this nature that I recall.
|>
|> The first was Armoire (Entertainment Center) - Project 213
|> http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?213
|>
|> The most recent was Media Press - Project 0307
|> http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0307
|>
|> Have a look at those to see if either fits the bill.
|>
|> As for either's availability in book form, don't ask me - I don't use
|> no steenkin' plans... ;-)
|>
|
|The first is the one that's in "Classics From..." book.
|
|The second is the one I'm after, I think. I remember thinking "Gee,
|that's a nice piece . . . why's he using so many nails" . . . . which I
|suppose is a common feeling wrt his "fine" pieces.
|