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Dave Balderstone

20/11/2004 3:01 PM

steamed cherry

A local wood supplier has steamed cherry on for what's a good price in
this part of the country.

Is there any downside to this wood? Does it react to light evenly?


This topic has 15 replies

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Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 6:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rumpty
<[email protected]> wrote:

> IIRC the steamed cherry is lighter in color and doesn't darken as easily.

It appeared very close in color to "normal" cherry. If it doesn't
darken as easily, does it darken *evenly*?

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 8:05 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
patriarch <patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:

> But then, in California, we don't get first choice on cherry lumber.

Nor do we in Saskatchewan.

Hardwoods are very expensive here, and with the steamed cherry at 7.90
CAD / bf it's comparativeley affordable. But if it's inferior, I can
buy poplar for less than 1/3 that and stain it.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 9:49 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
patriarch <patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:

> Can you just buy a sample board? You know, practice on scrap, etc.?

They had a couple of 7 or 8 foot by 10 inch that were the shortest. So
figure $50 a board for the shortest they had... I may have a project or
two in mind, but after Christmas.

I picked up a board of some nicely figured stuff from the "other" bin
(it's destined to be a jewelery box for the daughter for Christmas).
4/4 by 5" by 7' for $10.50 CAD / bf.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 9:50 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rumpty
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I buy from local saw mill who air dries and then wood fires to finish and
> doesn't steam. I've use his wood and I've purchased steamed cherry from
> major mills here in Pa and they seem to finish about the same, although the
> steamed is a bit lighter. I often combine steamed and not steamed in the
> same piece and I can't tell the difference.

Thanks, Rumpty. That gives me some confidence. I'll give it a closer
look next time I'm there.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 9:52 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rumpty
<[email protected]> wrote:

> What lengths at this price?

6 to 14 foot, 6 inch to 10 inch wide. All 4/4 S2S.

It seems pleasing enough to the eye but not a lot of figure to it.
Still, I can imagine building a few things with it.

Thanks again.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 9:56 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I prefer oak or maple
> due to the lower prices and lower demand.

Red oak is about half the price of the steamed cherry here, but nice
maple is pricier. I was looking at a couple of pieces of birdseye maple
at about $12 CAD / bf but they weren't exceptional.

We don't have a huge selection here in the middle of the Canadian
prairie, in a city of 225,000.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

21/11/2004 10:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>, George <george@least> wrote:

> Steamed cherry is only a one time shot. It's stress-relieved a couple of
> times in the kiln cycle anyway, normally by injecting steam. It does slow
> the aging versus air-dried wood, but I haven't seen much difference between
> it and other KD cherry. Remember, though, that sapwood does machine
> differently from heartwood, even if it's not too obvious.

Thanks, George.

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 6:02 PM

IIRC the steamed cherry is lighter in color and doesn't darken as easily.

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"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:201120041501423619%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> A local wood supplier has steamed cherry on for what's a good price in
> this part of the country.
>
> Is there any downside to this wood? Does it react to light evenly?

Gg

"George"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

21/11/2004 8:41 AM

Steamed cherry is only a one time shot. It's stress-relieved a couple of
times in the kiln cycle anyway, normally by injecting steam. It does slow
the aging versus air-dried wood, but I haven't seen much difference between
it and other KD cherry. Remember, though, that sapwood does machine
differently from heartwood, even if it's not too obvious.

"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:201120042150421658%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Rumpty
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I buy from local saw mill who air dries and then wood fires to finish
and
> > doesn't steam. I've use his wood and I've purchased steamed cherry from
> > major mills here in Pa and they seem to finish about the same, although
the
> > steamed is a bit lighter. I often combine steamed and not steamed in
the
> > same piece and I can't tell the difference.
>
> Thanks, Rumpty. That gives me some confidence. I'll give it a closer
> look next time I'm there.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

21/11/2004 3:36 AM

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:01:42 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

>A local wood supplier has steamed cherry on for what's a good price in
>this part of the country.
>
>Is there any downside to this wood? Does it react to light evenly?

Depends. There are various grades of cherry. I've seen air-dried
rough sawn cherry in the range $3 to $6.50 BF. I prefer oak or maple
due to the lower prices and lower demand.

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

21/11/2004 1:58 AM

Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in
news:201120041819453081%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca:

> In article <[email protected]>, Rumpty
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> IIRC the steamed cherry is lighter in color and doesn't darken as
>> easily.
>
> It appeared very close in color to "normal" cherry. If it doesn't
> darken as easily, does it darken *evenly*?
>

Two coats of RBS, and everything's cool. <g,d&r>

Actually, I think I used some, when I 'recycled' some cabinet shop leftover
doors. I gave it a coat or three of Tried & True Original, which it
slurped up, then a coat of Briwax Clear. The color was good, but I didn't
keep the pieces here long enough to evaluate the longer term changes. The
texture was different, and the wood worked 'softer' than the other cherry
I've used.

But then, in California, we don't get first choice on cherry lumber.

Patriarch

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

21/11/2004 3:05 AM

Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in
news:201120042005061475%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> patriarch <patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But then, in California, we don't get first choice on cherry lumber.
>
> Nor do we in Saskatchewan.
>
> Hardwoods are very expensive here, and with the steamed cherry at 7.90
> CAD / bf it's comparativeley affordable. But if it's inferior, I can
> buy poplar for less than 1/3 that and stain it.
>

Can you just buy a sample board? You know, practice on scrap, etc.?

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 10:33 PM

>IIRC the steamed cherry is lighter in color and doesn't darken as easily.

Dave, let me add that unfinished sitting on the shelf doesn't seem to
discolor/darken as fast. Please see my other comments below. At 7.9/ft CAD
doesn't sound bad. What lengths at this price?


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Larry Jaques

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

21/11/2004 7:22 AM

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:58:09 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in
>news:201120041819453081%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, Rumpty
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> IIRC the steamed cherry is lighter in color and doesn't darken as
>>> easily.
>>
>> It appeared very close in color to "normal" cherry. If it doesn't
>> darken as easily, does it darken *evenly*?
>>
>
>Two coats of RBS, and everything's cool. <g,d&r>

"Mahhhhhhhm, make him stahhhhhhhhhhhp!"


-- Friends Don't Let Friends Eat Turkey and Drive --

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 20/11/2004 3:01 PM

20/11/2004 10:29 PM

>> But then, in California, we don't get first choice on cherry lumber.

>Nor do we in Saskatchewan.

I live in Pennsylvania and neither do we! LOL

I buy from local saw mill who air dries and then wood fires to finish and
doesn't steam. I've use his wood and I've purchased steamed cherry from
major mills here in Pa and they seem to finish about the same, although the
steamed is a bit lighter. I often combine steamed and not steamed in the
same piece and I can't tell the difference.

BTW, FWIW I recently purchased some great 4/4, 5/4 veneer quality cherry
from this local mill for $4/ft USD. It's nice....


Rumpty

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"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:201120042005061475%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> patriarch <patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > But then, in California, we don't get first choice on cherry lumber.
>
> Nor do we in Saskatchewan.
>
> Hardwoods are very expensive here, and with the steamed cherry at 7.90
> CAD / bf it's comparativeley affordable. But if it's inferior, I can
> buy poplar for less than 1/3 that and stain it.


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