Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
computer desk.
Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
showing.
I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
Can anyone offer any advice?
Thanks,
Warren
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:13:31 GMT, Warren Johnson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I tried some reapplication. It had about the same effect as the paint
>thinner, which is, basically none (a little came off if I rubbed hard
>enough).
>
>Any suggestions on products that might take this stuff off? Is there a
>possibility of damaging the wood?
>
>I suspect sanding would help a lot but I don't want to mess this up
>worse than it is, so I'll leave that until last.
>
>Warren
try something like naptha. there are a bunch of higher solvents, one
of which almost certainly will cut it. problem is they tend to be
pretty toxic and in some cases explosive.
Hey thanks I'll check that out. I live in BC, Canada got the gel
stain at Rona. Not sure they're down in the states, but I think they
are affiliated somehow with Revy/Home Depot.
Warren
"Don Vest" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<j1IJc.4$Tp2.0@lakeread02>...
> Beyond starting with the obvious normal removal methods, I don't have much
> insight. I have used a spray on remover by Klean Strip that works well on
> starn ( Home Dopot) But, I would sure like to know where you bought the
> Varathan Gel Stain. I live in Arizona and have not been able to find the
> Gel Stain for a couple of years. I have looked on the web with no better
> results. I have tried other brands and nothing compares to the Varathane
> product. Didn't your mother teach you anything? Always read the directions.
> ( Like I do )
>
> "Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
> > computer desk.
> >
> > Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
> > Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
> > didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
> > stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
> > this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
> > I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
> > showing.
> >
> > I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
> >
> > Can anyone offer any advice?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Warren
Thanks Leon, that's the path that made most sense to me. I'll let you
know how it works out.
Warren
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> ASAP wipe it down with Paint Thinner and change rags often. Then resand.
>
>
> "Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
> > computer desk.
> >
> > Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
> > Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
> > didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
> > stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
> > this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
> > I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
> > showing.
> >
> > I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
> >
> > Can anyone offer any advice?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Warren
ASAP wipe it down with Paint Thinner and change rags often. Then resand.
"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
> computer desk.
>
> Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
> Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
> didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
> stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
> this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
> I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
> showing.
>
> I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
>
> Can anyone offer any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
I tried some reapplication. It had about the same effect as the paint
thinner, which is, basically none (a little came off if I rubbed hard
enough).
Any suggestions on products that might take this stuff off? Is there a
possibility of damaging the wood?
I suspect sanding would help a lot but I don't want to mess this up
worse than it is, so I'll leave that until last.
Warren
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Before risking sand through veneer think I'd try reapplication of the
> gel to see if it would soften the previous application enough to wipe
> some off.
>
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:19:40 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>If it is totally dry (and it probably is by now) then sanding may be
>>the only way. Using a gel stain *might* be your salvation in this
>>case. It has been my experience that gel stains don't penetrate quite
>>as far as oil or water based liquid stains. The problem you will run
>>into now is that you may very well wind up sanding through the (very)
>>thin oak veneer on the plywood.
>>
>>I have left some Bartley's gel stain on a little too long and used a
>>rag and Mineral spirits to clean it up. But one of the first pieces
>>where I used Bartley's, it dried way too much and I had to resand down
>>to bare wood. Once it dried hard, even mineral spirits wouldn't cut
>>it.
>>
>>Wayne
>>
I got Poly Supa Strippa. It says to remove with a putty knife then wipe it
off. I also got some steel wool for the edge moulding which is quarter
round red oak.
I applied the stain, properly this time, to the 3 other parts of the desk:
the side "legs" and the back/center part, which will sort of support the
top of the desk. I must say it looks very good.
Warren
>
> try something like naptha. there are a bunch of higher solvents, one
> of which almost certainly will cut it. problem is they tend to be
> pretty toxic and in some cases explosive.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Don Vest" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:j1IJc.4$Tp2.0@lakeread02...
> > Beyond starting with the obvious normal removal methods, I don't have
much
> > insight. I have used a spray on remover by Klean Strip that works well
on
> > starn ( Home Dopot) But, I would sure like to know where you bought the
> > Varathan Gel Stain. I live in Arizona and have not been able to find
the
> > Gel Stain for a couple of years. I have looked on the web with no better
> > results. I have tried other brands and nothing compares to the
Varathane
> > product. Didn't your mother teach you anything? Always read the
> directions.
> > ( Like I do )
>
> IIRC Home Depot carries Varathan Gel Stains. If you like Verithane Gel
> Stains you will love Bartleys Gel Stains sold at WoodCraft.
I don't have any experience with Varathane Gel Stain, but I used the
Bartley's Gel Stain on some (gasp) cherry, and everyone who has seen it
thinks it looks great.
todd
Before risking sand through veneer think I'd try reapplication of the
gel to see if it would soften the previous application enough to wipe
some off.
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:19:40 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>If it is totally dry (and it probably is by now) then sanding may be the
>only way. Using a gel stain *might* be your salvation in this case. It
>has been my experience that gel stains don't penetrate quite as far as oil
>or water based liquid stains. The problem you will run into now is that
>you may very well wind up sanding through the (very) thin oak veneer on the
>plywood.
>
>I have left some Bartley's gel stain on a little too long and used a rag and
>Mineral spirits to clean it up. But one of the first pieces where I used
>Bartley's, it dried way too much and I had to resand down to bare wood.
>Once it dried hard, even mineral spirits wouldn't cut it.
>
>Wayne
>
>
>"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
>> computer desk.
>>
>> Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
>> Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
>> didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
>> stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
>> this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
>> I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
>> showing.
>>
>> I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
>>
>> Can anyone offer any advice?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Warren
>
"Don Vest" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:j1IJc.4$Tp2.0@lakeread02...
> Beyond starting with the obvious normal removal methods, I don't have much
> insight. I have used a spray on remover by Klean Strip that works well on
> starn ( Home Dopot) But, I would sure like to know where you bought the
> Varathan Gel Stain. I live in Arizona and have not been able to find the
> Gel Stain for a couple of years. I have looked on the web with no better
> results. I have tried other brands and nothing compares to the Varathane
> product. Didn't your mother teach you anything? Always read the
directions.
> ( Like I do )
IIRC Home Depot carries Varathan Gel Stains. If you like Verithane Gel
Stains you will love Bartleys Gel Stains sold at WoodCraft.
Beyond starting with the obvious normal removal methods, I don't have much
insight. I have used a spray on remover by Klean Strip that works well on
starn ( Home Dopot) But, I would sure like to know where you bought the
Varathan Gel Stain. I live in Arizona and have not been able to find the
Gel Stain for a couple of years. I have looked on the web with no better
results. I have tried other brands and nothing compares to the Varathane
product. Didn't your mother teach you anything? Always read the directions.
( Like I do )
"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
> computer desk.
>
> Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
> Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
> didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
> stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
> this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
> I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
> showing.
>
> I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
>
> Can anyone offer any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
If it is totally dry (and it probably is by now) then sanding may be the
only way. Using a gel stain *might* be your salvation in this case. It
has been my experience that gel stains don't penetrate quite as far as oil
or water based liquid stains. The problem you will run into now is that
you may very well wind up sanding through the (very) thin oak veneer on the
plywood.
I have left some Bartley's gel stain on a little too long and used a rag and
Mineral spirits to clean it up. But one of the first pieces where I used
Bartley's, it dried way too much and I had to resand down to bare wood.
Once it dried hard, even mineral spirits wouldn't cut it.
Wayne
"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
> computer desk.
>
> Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
> Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
> didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
> stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
> this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
> I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
> showing.
>
> I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
>
> Can anyone offer any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
The first time I used a "spray stain" I told my boss "yeah it did save time
but man its pretty dark". I didnt know he wanted me to wipe it.
Tell us how sanding the sheet worked out.
Rich
"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello group, I'm an inexperienced woodworker, but I decided to make a
> computer desk.
>
> Anyway, on this sheet of red oak plywood I put the Varathane Gel
> Stain, and I guess I didn't read the directions carefully enough, and
> didn't wipe it off. I gave it quite a thick coat of Red Mahogany gel
> stain and now it's basically dry on there. What can I do to save
> this? I mean, it looks like it's painted, and that's not too bad, but
> I am guessing by doing this right I'd have had a much nicer grain
> showing.
>
> I'm guessing any solution involves either sanding or paint thinner. ;)
>
> Can anyone offer any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
>