RH

"Rob H."

13/10/2011 5:12 AM

What is it? Set 410

I need help with three of them this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Dave__67

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 5:51 AM



Rob H. wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Tough part is trying to answer without peeking at previous answers,
anyway:

2371- Model of a Cray supercomputer, too lazy to google which one

2372

2373

2374- easy to say machinists angle block, but that big hole is for
something... small but shiny one over on tractorshed.com

2375- drag (maybe not the correct term) anchor, not for keeping the
boat in one spot but for keeping it facing into the current

2376- olympic torch used by the US, again too lazy to google from when


Dave

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in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 6:35 AM

On Oct 13, 2:12=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2373 -- at a size of 2", it's too small to be the real thing, but it
looks like the magazine from a Model 1893 Colt Bulldog Gatling gun
(see http://autryvoices.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/90_183_3.jpg); it
could be the magazine from a scale model of the weapon.

kk

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 2:57 AM

On Oct 12, 11:12=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2375. Anchor
2376. Gimbaled ships lamp.
Thanks
Karl

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 8:05 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
>>> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed,
>>> it was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>>>
>>
>> Homeless, Drunks, or Hookers???
>
>
> Ha ha, the group I had in mind was more organized and respected, and
> possibly professional.


Well I read the answer. Since I am a Firefighter myself I'd like to say
you're correct, BUT......

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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 6:49 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2371 concept model of a Cray I supercomputer
Lloyd

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[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 4:50 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>I need help with three of them this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>


#2371 A cray-1 supercomputer. Circular to get the wire lengths short.
#2376 A lamp

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

15/10/2011 5:28 PM

J Burns wrote:
> On 10/14/11 8:05 PM, Steve W. wrote:
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>> "Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
>>>>> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed,
>>>>> it was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Homeless, Drunks, or Hookers???
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha ha, the group I had in mind was more organized and respected, and
>>> possibly professional.
>>
>>
>> Well I read the answer. Since I am a Firefighter myself I'd like to say
>> you're correct, BUT......
>>
> I've found a reference in John Scharf's _History of Philadelphia_.
> Originally, the carriages with the manual pumps had tallow lanterns.
> They were replaced by torches attached to the carriages. Torches in
> turn were replaced by lamps.

I was referring to Robs critique of FF. Some days I think hookers have
more class...

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Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 9:29 AM

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:24:19 -0400, Alexander Thesoso wrote:

> 2371 Cray 1 Computer

Model of a Le Corbusier or Oscar Niemeyer-designed building. :-)

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tiredofspam

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 5:35 AM

2376, Olympic torch.
2373 Night Watchman's key


On 10/13/2011 5:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 12, 11:12 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need help with three of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2375. Anchor
> 2376. Gimbaled ships lamp.
> Thanks
> Karl

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 6:24 AM


> On Oct 12, 11:12 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need help with three of them this week:

2371 Cray 1 Computer

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 7:40 AM

On 10/13/2011 5:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 12, 11:12 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need help with three of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2375. Anchor

Made of wood?

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 9:57 AM

2371 some kind of sales display. Possibly wall finish
colors.
2372, no clue.
2372 slider for a real man's abacus?
2374 from building construction, most likely.
2375 no clue
2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.


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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4a530bda-6f1b-4e8e-bd09-d8ba44069238@k10g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 12, 11:12 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2375. Anchor
2376. Gimbaled ships lamp.
Thanks
Karl

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 10:59 AM

On 10/13/11 5:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 12, 11:12 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need help with three of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob

2374 milling jig

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 11:43 AM

Ok, you got me. I did an immediate shape recognition, and didn't look
at the size and fine detail.
This is a model of a Cray 1 computer.


On 10/13/2011 8:37 AM, Michael Kenefick wrote:
> NO!
>
> On 10/13/2011 06:24 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>> 2371 Cray 1 Computer

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 12:50 PM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob


>> 2374- easy to say machinists angle block, but that big hole is for
> something... small but shiny one over on tractorshed.com


Thanks, I figured it was for a machinist but didn't know the name of it,
found similar ones searching on angle block but ever more when I searched
angle plate.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 8:36 PM


> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.


Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular purpose,
it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed, it was used a
group of people who are commonly found in a city.

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 8:10 AM

Now, that's got my curiosity going. Be interesting to see.

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"Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Rob H. wrote:
>
>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>
>
> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its
> particular
> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others
> has guessed, it
> was used a group of people who are commonly found in a
> city.
>

Homeless, Drunks, or Hookers???

--
Steve W.

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 10:46 AM

On 10/13/11 8:36 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>
>
> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed, it
> was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>
Crosshead screws came in in the 1930s. The flag looks like the one that
came in in 1959. The center shaft looks as if it would prevent the
gimbal from working. Maybe it was extended only to adjust the wick.

Before there were street lamps and vehicle lights with reflectors, I
wonder how they moved coaches, cabs, and freight wagons after dark. A
torch like this might have alerted pedestrians and given drivers a
little light.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 12:39 PM

>>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>>
>>
>> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
>> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed, it
>> was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>>
> Crosshead screws came in in the 1930s. The flag looks like the one that
> came in in 1959. The center shaft looks as if it would prevent the gimbal
> from working. Maybe it was extended only to adjust the wick.


The screws are part of the display bracket that are holding the torch in
place, the torch is from the 1850s-1860s. The people in the photo are
actually part of the display of the green banner that can be seen in one of
the photos, it had something to do with Italian immigrants, as seen in this
wider shot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/pic2376b.jpg

> Before there were street lamps and vehicle lights with reflectors, I
> wonder how they moved coaches, cabs, and freight wagons after dark. A
> torch like this might have alerted pedestrians and given drivers a little
> light.

It could have been used for that but that's not what was on the plaque.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 12:44 PM


"Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>>
>>
>> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
>> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed, it
>> was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>>
>
> Homeless, Drunks, or Hookers???


Ha ha, the group I had in mind was more organized and respected, and
possibly professional.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 3:55 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:319626ee-b131-4293-94bb-4f1ea20cdc70@f11g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 2:12 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

>2373 -- at a size of 2", it's too small to be the real thing, but it
>looks like the magazine from a Model 1893 Colt Bulldog Gatling gun
>(see http://autryvoices.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/90_183_3.jpg); it
>could be the magazine from a scale model of the weapon.


Thanks, this is probably the best guess that I've heard for it, the only
difference is that the slot should be 90 degrees closer to the ring but
other than that it looks very close.

Still not sure about the second item but the rest of the answers for this
set have been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/10/set-410.html#answers


Rob

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

15/10/2011 4:21 PM

On 10/14/11 8:05 PM, Steve W. wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>> "Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
>>>> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed,
>>>> it was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Homeless, Drunks, or Hookers???
>>
>>
>> Ha ha, the group I had in mind was more organized and respected, and
>> possibly professional.
>
>
> Well I read the answer. Since I am a Firefighter myself I'd like to say
> you're correct, BUT......
>
I've found a reference in John Scharf's _History of Philadelphia_.
Originally, the carriages with the manual pumps had tallow lanterns.
They were replaced by torches attached to the carriages. Torches in
turn were replaced by lamps.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

15/10/2011 6:02 PM

> In your description of (2374) -- was that a description of how
> it was found being used? It normally was not attached to a workbench,
> but rather to the T-slotted moving cast iron table which was part of a
> milling machine or perhaps a vertical turret lathe.


Good catch, I got the description from the Wikipedia link where they had
said it was attached to a work table, and I mistakenly wrote work bench
instead. I just fixed my answer and added your description of it being
attached to a "T-slotted moving cast iron table which was part of a milling
machine." Thanks!


Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 12:48 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


2371 - Model of a Cray 1

2372 - Looks like a set of trammel points and some other pieces.

2373 - Resembles a locking breech block

2374 -

2375 - Old wooden anchor or grapple

2376 - Gimbaled ships lantern. Possibly a masthead lamp.


--
Steve W.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 11:12 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
>> 2376 torch, with wick. Early outdoor lighting.
>
>
> Torch is correct but it might be difficult to guess its particular
> purpose, it's not for a ship or the olympics, as others has guessed, it
> was used a group of people who are commonly found in a city.
>

Homeless, Drunks, or Hookers???

--
Steve W.

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

13/10/2011 8:37 AM

NO!

On 10/13/2011 06:24 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 2371 Cray 1 Computer

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 2:49 AM

On 2011-10-13, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need help with three of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2371) This looks like a scale model of the Cray-1 supercomputer.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-1>

as an example of the size, those steps could be used (and were
used) for seating.

2372) Looks somewhat related to a drafting or a mechanical layout tool.

2373) Some interesting form of lock?

2374) Machinist's angle plate -- used for precision (pre the layer of
rust coating shown) setups and as a precision right angle
reference.

It can be bolted to a machine's table, and the workpiece bolted
to it to hold it in the proper orientation for the work.

2375) Looks like an upside down and very primitive version of a
ship's capstan. For winding up lengths of rope in this case,
not chain which was often used for anchors on a true ship's
capstan.

2376) Some form of oil fueled lamp -- and based on the photo behind
it, it may be an "eternal flame" to honor someone who is gone.

But it also appears to be gimbaled, as would be common on a
shipboard lamp.

Now to spell check this, post it, and go on to see what others
have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 2:52 AM

On 2011-10-13, Michael Kenefick <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/13/2011 06:24 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>> 2371 Cray 1 Computer

> NO!

Not at 12" height -- but a *model* of a Cray-1 supercomptuer,
yes I agree.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 13/10/2011 5:12 AM

14/10/2011 10:50 PM

On 2011-10-14, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:319626ee-b131-4293-94bb-4f1ea20cdc70@f11g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 13, 2:12 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need help with three of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
>>2373 -- at a size of 2", it's too small to be the real thing, but it
>>looks like the magazine from a Model 1893 Colt Bulldog Gatling gun
>>(see http://autryvoices.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/90_183_3.jpg); it
>>could be the magazine from a scale model of the weapon.
>
>
> Thanks, this is probably the best guess that I've heard for it, the only
> difference is that the slot should be 90 degrees closer to the ring but
> other than that it looks very close.

Hmmm ... still a bit small for the working models designed to
fire .22 LR cartridges, so I guess that it is not a working model. I
doubt that it would even work with .177 caliber.

> Still not sure about the second item but the rest of the answers for this
> set have been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/10/set-410.html#answers

O.K. I'm interested in what (2372) turns out to be. A better
exposed shot of the two parts near the legs at the right hand end might
help.

In your description of (2374) -- was that a description of how
it was found being used? It normally was not attached to a workbench,
but rather to the T-slotted moving cast iron table which was part of a
milling machine or perhaps a vertical turret lathe.

The large hole (which others commented on) was simply a way of
somewhat reducing the weight that the gusset which fills the 'V' to
increase rigidity would add to the plate. The part closest to the V
adds little rigidity, and adds more weight proportionally than it is
worth.

The 'V' on one face is to keep a cylindrical part vertical The
tapped holes are for bolting workpieces to the angle plate, or to use
with hold-down clamps to hold the workpiece to the plate without having
to drill holes into the workpieces.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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