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"Upscale"

02/05/2006 5:43 PM

Question about blades for miter saws...

Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
designed for woodworking?

Safety is of course, a definite consideration. I'm asking if there are metal
cut off blades designed for use in a standard woodworking chop saw? I expect
to be cutting some metal tubing in the near future and would like to know if
I need to buy a metal chop saw designed for that purpose or can I use a
woodworking mitre saw and get dual duty service out of it?


This topic has 14 replies

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 3:02 PM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
> designed for woodworking?
>
> Safety is of course, a definite consideration. I'm asking if there are
> metal
> cut off blades designed for use in a standard woodworking chop saw? I
> expect
> to be cutting some metal tubing in the near future and would like to know
> if
> I need to buy a metal chop saw designed for that purpose or can I use a
> woodworking mitre saw and get dual duty service out of it?
>
You can, however it is VERY HARD on your saw. If you need to cut some
tubes, just load an old Skilsaw up with a abrasive blades and cut to your
hearts content.

Dave



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"RicodJour"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 3:57 PM

Upscale wrote:
> "Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >
> > You can, however it is VERY HARD on your saw. If you need to cut some
> > tubes, just load an old Skilsaw up with a abrasive blades and cut to your
> > heart's content.
>
> So you're saying that it puts a lot of wear on the motor? Ok, that's
> something that didn't occur to me. I don't yet own a mitre saw or a metal
> chop saw, but was hoping to buy one and get use out of it in both cases. I
> do however, have an old B+D power saw. Thanks.

Hard on the motor, but not from the cutting strain. If you have a slow
enough feed rate and are cutter softer metals with the proper blade,
then the strain wouldn't be much more than cutting some hardwood.
Abrasive dust/residue from an abrasive cutoff blade will kill your CMS.
If you're planning on using an abrasive blade, it's probably a better
idea to just buy a cheapo HF cutoff saw. If you're just cutting thin
aluminum, you could get away with just using your carbide blade...the
old one. ;)

R

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 4:20 PM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Frank Boettcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> What is the tubing made of?
>
> Aluminium or something similar ~ strong and light are my priorities, I
> haven't yet worked out my exact needs, it's going to be a little invention
> that I hope to market in the near future.
>
Aluminum can be cut with most wood cutting blades - just wax them first.
You don't need an abrasive wheel for them. Just cut slow and steady. For
tubing, clamp it securely as sometimes they want to spin at an inappropriate
time! DAMHIKT

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"Jack"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

03/05/2006 1:42 PM

I have an old B & D miter saw, pre compound angle. With an abrasive
blade I have cut steel, and with a diamond blade I have cut bricks (
fireplace). The saw is still dead on and the bearings don't make noise
. I wouldn't do this will the sliding Makita .

BH

Brian Henderson

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

03/05/2006 6:01 PM

On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:38:31 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>What kind of metal? I have cut aluminum on my TS a number of times; but
>sure wouldn't want to go after steel.

Aluminum, as has been said, can be cut with most woodworking blades
with no problem. I've done some cutting of steel on my miter saw
using an old carbide blade and it's cut just fine, but that was just a
few cuts and I wouldn't want to do that with a good blade.

c

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

03/05/2006 1:22 AM

On Tue, 2 May 2006 17:43:12 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
>designed for woodworking?
>
I used a 7" 4 tooth carbide blade on my Sears 10" miter saw to cut
aluminum and a 10" abrasive blade to cut the steal for the trailer I
built. The aluminum cuts very cleanly and the blade makes chips like
sawdust. The abrasive blade on steel makes sparks and the 'chips'
look like grindings. The abrasive blade wears very fast if you push
the saw. Do not wear shorts, sandals, t-shirt when you do this.
Do wear eye protection. This stuff comes off hot.

Pete

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"Upscale"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 6:23 PM


"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> You can, however it is VERY HARD on your saw. If you need to cut some
> tubes, just load an old Skilsaw up with a abrasive blades and cut to your
> heart's content.

So you're saying that it puts a lot of wear on the motor? Ok, that's
something that didn't occur to me. I don't yet own a mitre saw or a metal
chop saw, but was hoping to buy one and get use out of it in both cases. I
do however, have an old B+D power saw. Thanks.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 6:46 PM


"Frank Boettcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> What is the tubing made of?

Aluminium or something similar ~ strong and light are my priorities, I
haven't yet worked out my exact needs, it's going to be a little invention
that I hope to market in the near future.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 10:38 PM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
> designed for woodworking?
>
> Safety is of course, a definite consideration. I'm asking if there are
> metal
> cut off blades designed for use in a standard woodworking chop saw? I
> expect
> to be cutting some metal tubing in the near future and would like to know
> if
> I need to buy a metal chop saw designed for that purpose or can I use a
> woodworking mitre saw and get dual duty service out of it?
>
What kind of metal? I have cut aluminum on my TS a number of times; but
sure wouldn't want to go after steel.

EN

Eugene Nine

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 9:55 PM

Upscale wrote:

>
> "Frank Boettcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> What is the tubing made of?
>
> Aluminium or something similar ~ strong and light are my priorities, I
> haven't yet worked out my exact needs, it's going to be a little invention
> that I hope to market in the near future.

Aluminum should be no problem. My $88 Delta the blade was printed for wood
or aluminum so I tried and it worked fine, just cut slow.

JJ

Joe

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

03/05/2006 2:38 PM

On Tue, 2 May 2006 17:43:12 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
>designed for woodworking?
>
>Safety is of course, a definite consideration. I'm asking if there are metal
>cut off blades designed for use in a standard woodworking chop saw? I expect
>to be cutting some metal tubing in the near future and would like to know if
>I need to buy a metal chop saw designed for that purpose or can I use a
>woodworking mitre saw and get dual duty service out of it?
>

I see the guys that do straight finish cut door tacks (aluminum) all
the time.
Of course there are grades of aluminum (soft to fairly hard) but I
don't know enough abouth that to give you any info.
A good carbide blade and a slow to moderate feed rate and it should be
fine.
As far as wear on the saw I don't feel thats an issue either. It will
drag on say 8/4 Oak a lot more than on aluminum pipe I would guess.

FB

Frank Boettcher

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 5:56 PM

On Tue, 2 May 2006 18:46:26 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Frank Boettcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> What is the tubing made of?
>
>Aluminium or something similar ~ strong and light are my priorities, I
>haven't yet worked out my exact needs, it's going to be a little invention
>that I hope to market in the near future.
>


I've cut aluminum on my miter saw. Many of the standard woodworking
blades are rated for non ferrous metals. I think TC & F with negative
rake angle recommended. But check with some blade manufacturers

I worked in an aluminum extrusion plant where cuttoff was done with
radial arm saws and skill saws. that was so long ago I don't think
miter saws were invented.

Get a toilet wax seal and touch it to the blade before each cut.

Frank

FB

Frank Boettcher

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 5:31 PM

On Tue, 2 May 2006 17:43:12 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
>designed for woodworking?
>
>Safety is of course, a definite consideration. I'm asking if there are metal
>cut off blades designed for use in a standard woodworking chop saw? I expect
>to be cutting some metal tubing in the near future and would like to know if
>I need to buy a metal chop saw designed for that purpose or can I use a
>woodworking mitre saw and get dual duty service out of it?
>


What is the tubing made of?

RS

Roy Smith

in reply to "Upscale" on 02/05/2006 5:43 PM

02/05/2006 9:38 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, 2 May 2006 17:43:12 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Have any of you mitre saw owners used a metal cut off blade in a mitre saw
> >designed for woodworking?
> >
> I used a 7" 4 tooth carbide blade

Um, did you drop a zero there?

> Do not wear shorts, sandals, t-shirt when you do this.

I hope you're not advocating cutting metal in the buff :-)


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