On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:18:50 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
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>krw wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 21:50:06 -0500, Mike Marlow
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>>>> "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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>>>>>> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>>>>> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
>>>>> any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
>>>>> closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
>>>>> my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
>>>>> job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
>>>> Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state that could turn them :)
>>>>
>>> Why bother using the * in the names of those stores? Using that
>>> accomplishes nothing and simply spelling out the names risks nothing.
>> For the same reason I'm going to start using "Fest**l". If use the
>> correct name, B|\\ will get upset that I'm advertising. ;-)
>>
>You're moving to subliminal tactics now, eh? ;)
Are your legs still the same length? ;-)
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 21:21:01 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:52:39 -0800, Electric Comet
><[email protected]> wrote:
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>>On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:40:17 -0800 (PST)
>>[email protected] wrote:
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>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=round+fenc
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>>another problem is that many fence products are treated and that is
>>somethin i do not need or want
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>>as i said will laminate for now and keep my eyes peeled for a source
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>>i did find some poles which is a term that i did not use to search
>>earlier
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>Try curtainrods.com
>http://curtainrods.com/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?cartlink=woodtrends3.htm&cart_id=
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:10:33 -0600, Martin Eastburn
<[email protected]> wrote:
>A 4x4 isn't 4". 3 3/4 at best. So center it and turn off a little.
>Want it round ? have to cut it down anyway.
>
>Fence posts are in abundant. Ever go to a lumber yard ? We have fence
>post makers around here from 2" to 12". Pick up a 12" fence post with
>a hoist. That is a good sized tree.
>
>searching for it on the web is odd. How big a chunk and what are you
>trying to do ??
>
>Martin
>
Ordering fence posts on-line so he can double the price shipping them
across country to "save money" over buying from a local source.
TryTSC (tractor supply) orchard supply, or a local farmer's co-op, or
a local fencing contractor.
>where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>is the only option to buy 4x4 material
>6 or 8 or 10 foot lengths ok
>i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
>i feel it is a case of the wrong search terms and once i find the magic
>word i will find the material
>
http://www.tscstores.com/3-X-8-CEDAR-FENCE-POST-P10849.aspx#.VrJANS5uldg
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>On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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>> >where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>
>> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter,
>> nor
>> any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
>> closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock
>> in
>> my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom
>> turning
>> job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
>Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard,
>not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far
>as a lathe, I think there may be one in >Washington state that could turn
>them :)
True, round posts and rails are not uncommon... but all I've seen used in
these parts and in the stores are bigger than 3" in diameter... The closest
post size is more like 4" and it is intended for wire, not for rails.
Perhaps in other regions things are different... and it wouldn't surprise
me. This as many things have been down sized over the years though claimed
to meet the performance standards of the larger sizes. Now there is a
discussion had here on the rec countless times over the past few decades!
LOL
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
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> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n8td2d$8ib$3
> @dont-email.me:
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> > where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>
> I doubt such a thing exists.
>
> A boat shop might make some for you (at a significant cost)
> since that's a reasonable size for a mast or boom.
>
> It's not particularly hard to make round lumber, tho. Take
> a length of square stock, mark it with an 8-siding gauge
> and plane it into an octagon, then plane it round by eye
> and feel (you can eyeball a 16-sided form by making the
> flats the same width, then round that by feel).
>
> Good exercise, too.
>
> John
I did some work on a barn that had been repaired with round lumber a
while back. In this case some of the round lumber still had the bark on
it.
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n8td2d$8ib$3
@dont-email.me:
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> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
I doubt such a thing exists.
A boat shop might make some for you (at a significant cost)
since that's a reasonable size for a mast or boom.
It's not particularly hard to make round lumber, tho. Take
a length of square stock, mark it with an 8-siding gauge
and plane it into an octagon, then plane it round by eye
and feel (you can eyeball a 16-sided form by making the
flats the same width, then round that by feel).
Good exercise, too.
John
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
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> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
Depends -- what are you planning to do with it?
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:38:03 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> > "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > >where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
> >
> > Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
> > any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
> > closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
> > my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
> > job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
>
> Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state that could turn them :)
https://www.google.com/search?q=round+fence+rails&safe=off&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=979&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-5ePhntzKAhXjtYMKHSHvCokQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=UjdLwiS42QrlRM%3A
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 11:56:52 AM UTC-8, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:18:11 -0500
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small
> for smaller lengths i use firewood but finding longer has been the
> challenge
Mainly, a 4x4 will be the core of a log; it'll have the 'bullseye' of the
growth rings in its middle. So, it's never long straight-grain knot-free wood.
If you want long straight-grain wood, you had best split long logs
yourself, and figure on losing an inch or two toward the center (pithwood)
and the outside (sapwood). Or, get planks and glue 'em up.
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> >where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>
> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
> any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
> closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
> my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
> job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state that could turn them :)
"Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
A 4x4 isn't 4". 3 3/4 at best. So center it and turn off a little.
Want it round ? have to cut it down anyway.
Fence posts are in abundant. Ever go to a lumber yard ? We have fence
post makers around here from 2" to 12". Pick up a 12" fence post with
a hoist. That is a good sized tree.
searching for it on the web is odd. How big a chunk and what are you
trying to do ??
Martin
On 2/3/2016 11:24 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
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> i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
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> word i will find the material
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On 2/3/16 11:24 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
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> is the only option to buy 4x4 material
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> 6 or 8 or 10 foot lengths ok
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> i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
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> i feel it is a case of the wrong search terms and once i find the
> magic word i will find the material
>
I don't know what the intended purpose is, but if framing lumber will do
then two laminated 2x4's equals 3" thick. Rip 1/2" off before or after
and you get a 3x3. You also get the added benefit this "post" being
more stable because you laminate them together with polarized grain
meaning the two will hold each other straight if they warp.
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-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com
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On 2/3/16 11:52 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 2/3/16 11:24 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
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>> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>>
>> is the only option to buy 4x4 material
>>
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>> 6 or 8 or 10 foot lengths ok
>>
>> i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
>>
>> i feel it is a case of the wrong search terms and once i find the
>> magic word i will find the material
>>
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> I don't know what the intended purpose is, but if framing lumber will do
> then two laminated 2x4's equals 3" thick. Rip 1/2" off before or after
> and you get a 3x3. You also get the added benefit this "post" being
> more stable because you laminate them together with polarized grain
> meaning the two will hold each other straight if they warp.
>
>
Oh, diameter... some other guys mentioned round. Are we talking round?
If so, seems like a good excuse to buy a lathe. :-D
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:18:11 -0500
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in
> diameter, nor any other round stock that size, as a commodity item...
> Outside of 1 1/4" closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall
> seeing full round stock in my millwork/woodworking supply books...
> This sounds like a custom turning job, or perhaps cutting up really
> large boat ores...
yes round stock
for smaller lengths i use firewood but finding longer has been the
challenge
the boat oars might be a good clue
i may resort to lamination
Electric Comet wrote:
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> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
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> is the only option to buy 4x4 material
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> 6 or 8 or 10 foot lengths ok
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> i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
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> i feel it is a case of the wrong search terms and once i find the magic
> word i will find the material
>
I would ask Electric Comet - he seems to have the answer to everything.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
[email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>>
>> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
>> any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
>> closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
>> my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
>> job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
>
> Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state that could turn them :)
>
Why bother using the * in the names of those stores? Using that
accomplishes nothing and simply spelling out the names risks nothing.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
krw wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 21:50:06 -0500, Mike Marlow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>>> "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>>>> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
>>>> any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
>>>> closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
>>>> my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
>>>> job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
>>> Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state that could turn them :)
>>>
>> Why bother using the * in the names of those stores? Using that
>> accomplishes nothing and simply spelling out the names risks nothing.
> For the same reason I'm going to start using "Fest**l". If use the
> correct name, B|\\ will get upset that I'm advertising. ;-)
>
You're moving to subliminal tactics now, eh? ;)
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 09:24:57 -0800, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
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>6 or 8 or 10 foot lengths ok
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>i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
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>i feel it is a case of the wrong search terms and once i find the magic
>word i will find the material
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Totally forget about looking it up online. Get out and find someone
who uses something similar and find out what they use and where they
get it. Likely available within 20 miles of either them or you.
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 22:10:33 -0600
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> A 4x4 isn't 4". 3 3/4 at best. So center it and turn off a little.
> Want it round ? have to cut it down anyway.
too much money though and too much waste
i have ruled out 4x4
> Fence posts are in abundant. Ever go to a lumber yard ? We have
nothing that i could use so looking online
a lot of fencing suppliers sell fencing by the linear foot
not what i need
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:37:58 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:
> Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply
> yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter
> tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state
> that could turn them :)
that is part of the reason to get something that is close to 3"
fencing suppliers like to sell fencing in linear feet at least online
have to visit a fencing supply in person when i have time but will
keep looking around
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:40:17 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=round+fenc
another problem is that many fence products are treated and that is
somethin i do not need or want
as i said will laminate for now and keep my eyes peeled for a source
i did find some poles which is a term that i did not use to search
earlier
On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 00:13:05 -0500
[email protected] wrote:
> They are FAR from cheap though. Shipping is nasty too unless you are
> in the north-east and run over to pick them up yourself - 6 and 8 foot
> lengths.
price and shipping kills the deal
i also found a supplier of hardwood dowels but also not cheap
and they laminate the larger diameter stock they sell
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:52:39 -0800, Electric Comet
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>On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:40:17 -0800 (PST)
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>somethin i do not need or want
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>as i said will laminate for now and keep my eyes peeled for a source
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>i did find some poles which is a term that i did not use to search
>earlier
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 21:50:06 -0500, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 1:18:28 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>> "Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
>>>
>>> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small in diameter, nor
>>> any other round stock that size, as a commodity item... Outside of 1 1/4"
>>> closet poles, or smaller dowels, I don't recall seeing full round stock in
>>> my millwork/woodworking supply books... This sounds like a custom turning
>>> job, or perhaps cutting up really large boat ores...
>>
>> Round fence rails are not uncommon...need to find a fencing supply yard, not just a big box L*wes or H*meDep*t. Not sure of the diameter tho. As far as a lathe, I think there may be one in Washington state that could turn them :)
>>
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>Why bother using the * in the names of those stores? Using that
>accomplishes nothing and simply spelling out the names risks nothing.
For the same reason I'm going to start using "Fest**l". If use the
correct name, B|\\ will get upset that I'm advertising. ;-)
You must have small trees if 4x4 is the core of the log. Post oak ?
I sawed up 3 logs into 4x4's. All oak. 74 total count. Some were
scrap with decay or bark. But 74 out of 3 logs caused me to make 2x6's
out of the next three logs and 1x out of the next 4 logs.
I have all that are 12'+ and one log was 17'. Those 4x4's are heavy!
Martin
On 2/5/2016 7:58 PM, whit3rd wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 11:56:52 AM UTC-8, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:18:11 -0500
>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Round stock? I don't recall seeing fence posts that small
>
>> for smaller lengths i use firewood but finding longer has been the
>> challenge
>
> Mainly, a 4x4 will be the core of a log; it'll have the 'bullseye' of the
> growth rings in its middle. So, it's never long straight-grain knot-free wood.
> If you want long straight-grain wood, you had best split long logs
> yourself, and figure on losing an inch or two toward the center (pithwood)
> and the outside (sapwood). Or, get planks and glue 'em up.
>
Where do you live ? and what are you trying to do ?
Martin in Texas.
On 2/3/2016 11:24 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
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> where to find 3 inch diameter lumber
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> is the only option to buy 4x4 material
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> 6 or 8 or 10 foot lengths ok
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> i thought i could find fence posts but have not had much luck
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> i feel it is a case of the wrong search terms and once i find the magic
> word i will find the material
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