OK thanks... that was what I thought.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's primary function in my shop is screwing; not drilling. However,
> with the hex bits, you CAN drill with it too. I'm not going to invest
> in MORE bits, just so I can say I use it for drilling too!
>
> dave
>
> Leon wrote:
>
> > How do you drill with that impact Makita of yours..
> >
> > I have had a similar problem with Bosch drills... Starting in 1986 I
broke 3
> > all in the first day I used them... Oddly a Bosch rep got me to try one
and
> > it broke when I used it at a WW show... All of them had a problem in
the
> > gears. I started with a Panasonic and those are superb. Still using 2,
9.6
> > DeWalts and a Makita right angle cordless. The battery is about pooped
on
> > the Makita, it does not hold a charge very long, but it is about 20
years
> > old.. ;~) I got the extra DeWalt because it was cheaper to buy in a
kit
> > than to buy 2 new batteries. Still using the original DeWalt cordless
that
> > is 7 years old.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>I bought my last DeWalt drill a few years back. Had to return it the
> >>same day I bought it. The chuck wasn't true. Got the Makita, and now
> >>I've got 3. love 'em.
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >>Leon wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out
> >
> > 900
> >
> >>>inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model..
> >
> > LOL
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>do you really need more the 880 inch lbs?? (that's what my impact
> >>>>driver has, in a 12V model)
> >>>>
> >>>>dave
> >>>>
> >>>>Leon wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why the 120 volt corded drill? Much more power than any battery
> >>>
> >>>operated
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>drill and much cheaper.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or
> >
> > 12
> >
> >>>>>>volt?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Longer run times between recharges of the battery packs. Marginaly
> >
> > more
> >
> >>>>>power.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If you are going to build a deck, get a "CORDED" drill and add a dry
> >>>
> >>>wall
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>adapter to limit screw travel. Or for about $100. you can get a
corded
> >>>
> >>>dry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>wall screw gun and have that feature built in. IMHO the corded
models
> >>>
> >>>get
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>heavy after several hundred screws and the bigger the battery pack,
the
> >>>>>heavier it is. Corded drills are relative light weight and very
strong
> >>>>>compared to a 18 or 19.2 volt mode.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
I would agree with this poster. A corded drill will have much more
power for longer than a cordless drill, assuming a reasonable
extension cord. The cordless drills (I have four) are best when a cord
would get in the way, or is not available. MOstly, when looking at the
larger battery voltages, weight is a major factor. I use 9.6v or 12v
cordless for overhead or other 'raised' elevations, because of the
weight. For a deck, where you will mostly be working downwards, the
corded drill is a fraction of the cost and a better solution.
Also, in general, the larger battery size will give you more screw
driving time before the battery needs a recharge. If you are going to
drive a dozen or so screws, the smaller battery sizes will work fine.
And the opposite for driving a lot of screws. The number of screws
that could be driven on a single battery charge used to be a major
criteria in the Fine Woodworking tests.
Also, for a deck. consider the new auto-feeding screw systems. You can
buy a complete system (drill and feeder), or just the feeder. When I
expand my deck next spring, I'll probably get a feeder to put on my
corded DeWalt. There is even a lo-o-ong model for standup work. I
haven't tried one yet, myself.
Retireb
>
> In most, but not all, cases, the higher the voltage, the more power. If the
> deck is off you house, I'd use a corded drill and not worry about batteries.
> The higher the voltage, usually the heavier the drill also. To buy a tool
> for one use and pay a weight penalty for years to come may also be foolish.
> I set out to buy an 18 Volt trill When I got to the store and saw the 14.4
> was easier to handle, that is what I bought. I'm a home user, not a pro
> working with it for hours at a time drilling deep holes in concrete.
>
> The 12 volt drill are getting cheaper, but often lack the features of the
> 14.4 or higher rated drills. Consider that also. Two speeds, electric
> brake, are hands to have. Bosch,. Panasonic, Milwaukee are great tools, but
> bought a Ryobi. It suits my light use needs at a good price. YMMV.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Didn't the phrase "strip the threads" catch your eye there?
The bozos using them evidently forgot they had clutches and
the management evidently wanted to slow the work down and
make it more threadsafe. ;)
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 03:12:39 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
pixelated:
>I don't understand why they were "forbidden?"
>
>"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Rich Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>> > I like 9.6v for assembly work in the shop. I like 14.4v for carpentry.
>> Yes,
>> > higher voltage (more power) is nice, but the tradeoff is the weight of
>the
>> > tool.
>>
>>
>> Every tool has its place. At work, a couple of guys bought 18V drills and
>> use them to change some name plates in aluminum tooling. I'm talking
>12-32
>> screws. After two uses, they are forbidden to use them and must use the
>3.6
>> volt B & D screwdriver that has yet to strip the threads.
>> Ed
>>
>>
>
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>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
I like 9.6v for assembly work in the shop. I like 14.4v for carpentry. Yes,
higher voltage (more power) is nice, but the tradeoff is the weight of the
tool.
Most important for your deck building is two battery packs and a one hour
charger.
Rich S.
jm wrote:
> What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>
>
For general around the hose, shop etc a 14.4 Volt is what I use...
I just finished a dec this spring and I did use an 18 V cordless BUT
most of the deck work was accomplished with an extension cord and a
regular 1/2 in electric drill...just faster lighter and easier to
use...(with the exception of the cord that is)...
Bob Griffiths
"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267
@sccrnsc01:
> What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>
>
For a deck I would think that the charging time would be as important as
the battery voltage and capacity. You're going to be going through
batteries every 30-60 mins, so you'd need a model with a quick charger. Or
save a lot of $$ and just get a corded drill. You're already going to be
out there for a while so a lot of the benefits of the cordless (quick
setup) aren't really valid. Plus you'd probably save more time with the
corded drill due the its more powerful motor.
-Matt
"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:E7a7b.399443$uu5.73222@sccrnsc04...
>
>
> Corded doesn't have a clutch? Why wouldn't they build that in?
I have never seen one with a clutch. Not a feature because it would
probably take sales from the drills that are the most profitable. The
cordless drills are basically free in a kit and you buy the 2 batteries and
charger. 3 years ago I bought a new drill kit because the kit with 2
batteries was 3 or 4 dollars more than 2 batteries by themselves. The
batteries poop out and you buy more batteries. Not totally unlike cheap
printers that come with the tiny and expensive ink refills .
"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
> What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
In most, but not all, cases, the higher the voltage, the more power. If the
deck is off you house, I'd use a corded drill and not worry about batteries.
The higher the voltage, usually the heavier the drill also. To buy a tool
for one use and pay a weight penalty for years to come may also be foolish.
I set out to buy an 18 Volt trill When I got to the store and saw the 14.4
was easier to handle, that is what I bought. I'm a home user, not a pro
working with it for hours at a time drilling deep holes in concrete.
The 12 volt drill are getting cheaper, but often lack the features of the
14.4 or higher rated drills. Consider that also. Two speeds, electric
brake, are hands to have. Bosch,. Panasonic, Milwaukee are great tools, but
bought a Ryobi. It suits my light use needs at a good price. YMMV.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
I think most batteries in the 14.4v and up range would last more than
30 minutes screwing deck screws.
The tradeoff in cordless is weight vs capacity and increased torque.
I found that the 14.4v Makita was a reasonable balance of these
factors (though my hand is smaller so the 18v gets heavy faster than
for you he-men).
I find cordless are easier for screws because of the low end torque vs
the harder to control for screws corded models. Can be done, but so
much easier with a cordless. Haven't tried a dedicated screw gun
(corded) for something like deck screws but they sure are sweet for
drywall. Plus, the dang cord isn't always in your way.
Might want to consider predrilling your holes - makes it lots easier.
Corded fine here.
Renata
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:05:03 GMT, MattH <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267
>@sccrnsc01:
>
>> What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>> volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>>
>>
>
>For a deck I would think that the charging time would be as important as
>the battery voltage and capacity. You're going to be going through
>batteries every 30-60 mins, so you'd need a model with a quick charger. Or
>save a lot of $$ and just get a corded drill. You're already going to be
>out there for a while so a lot of the benefits of the cordless (quick
>setup) aren't really valid. Plus you'd probably save more time with the
>corded drill due the its more powerful motor.
>-Matt
(no stain for email)
if you watch his older shows, you will see him with a corded drill.
"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
But
> I do see Norm Abram using one in his shop AND HE IS THE MAN.
How do you drill with that impact Makita of yours..
I have had a similar problem with Bosch drills... Starting in 1986 I broke 3
all in the first day I used them... Oddly a Bosch rep got me to try one and
it broke when I used it at a WW show... All of them had a problem in the
gears. I started with a Panasonic and those are superb. Still using 2, 9.6
DeWalts and a Makita right angle cordless. The battery is about pooped on
the Makita, it does not hold a charge very long, but it is about 20 years
old.. ;~) I got the extra DeWalt because it was cheaper to buy in a kit
than to buy 2 new batteries. Still using the original DeWalt cordless that
is 7 years old.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I bought my last DeWalt drill a few years back. Had to return it the
> same day I bought it. The chuck wasn't true. Got the Makita, and now
> I've got 3. love 'em.
>
> dave
>
> Leon wrote:
>
> > Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out
900
> > inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model..
LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>do you really need more the 880 inch lbs?? (that's what my impact
> >>driver has, in a 12V model)
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >>Leon wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Why the 120 volt corded drill? Much more power than any battery
> >
> > operated
> >
> >>>drill and much cheaper.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or
12
> >>>>volt?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Longer run times between recharges of the battery packs. Marginaly
more
> >>>power.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>If you are going to build a deck, get a "CORDED" drill and add a dry
> >
> > wall
> >
> >>>adapter to limit screw travel. Or for about $100. you can get a corded
> >
> > dry
> >
> >>>wall screw gun and have that feature built in. IMHO the corded models
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>heavy after several hundred screws and the bigger the battery pack, the
> >>>heavier it is. Corded drills are relative light weight and very strong
> >>>compared to a 18 or 19.2 volt mode.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Thanks. I don't know why a cordless is better in a shop where the
> > electricity is right there. Maybe someone else can enlighten me. But
> > I do see Norm Abram using one in his shop AND HE IS THE MAN.
>
> 2 simple answers that give cordless an advantage over corded is most have
> clutch settings so that you don't twist the screw head off or strip out
the
> wood, and most the better brands have an electronic brake that stops the
> drill almost instantly. In most instances in a shop setting, 9.6 volt is
> plenty with out the need of having a cord following you around.
>
Corded doesn't have a clutch? Why wouldn't they build that in?
>Corded doesn't have a clutch? Why wouldn't they build that in?
Good question. Drills are meant to drill and cordless machines are really
screwdrivers, I guess.
I can't imagine a cordless that would be able to shoot holes for Tapcons and
have a battery you would want to carry.
If I am doing light duty drilling or shooting screws I grab a cordless. If I
want to drill some serious holes I plug into the grid.
I had the same idea but in a moment of laziness (and having only a
couple holes that needed to be made) I grabbed the 18v Milwaukee
cordless and drilled into brick without a problem. Smallish hole
(~1/4 - 3/8") and nice sharp bit, but I was nevertheless surprised -
thought it would take more effort. No hassle at all. Cordless today
seem to handle well beyond light duty hole drilling.
Now, if you've got a bunch of holes to drill (into masonry), then I'd
certainly take the time to set up a corded hammer drill.
Renata
On 09 Sep 2003 01:47:10 GMT, [email protected] (Gfretwell) wrote:
--snip--
>I can't imagine a cordless that would be able to shoot holes for Tapcons and
>have a battery you would want to carry.
I bought my last DeWalt drill a few years back. Had to return it the
same day I bought it. The chuck wasn't true. Got the Makita, and now
I've got 3. love 'em.
dave
Leon wrote:
> Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out 900
> inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model.. LOL
>
>
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>do you really need more the 880 inch lbs?? (that's what my impact
>>driver has, in a 12V model)
>>
>>dave
>>
>>Leon wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Why the 120 volt corded drill? Much more power than any battery
>
> operated
>
>>>drill and much cheaper.
>>>
>>>
>>>"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
>>>
>>>
>>>>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>>>>volt?
>>>
>>>
>>>Longer run times between recharges of the battery packs. Marginaly more
>>>power.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>>>
>>>
>>>If you are going to build a deck, get a "CORDED" drill and add a dry
>
> wall
>
>>>adapter to limit screw travel. Or for about $100. you can get a corded
>
> dry
>
>>>wall screw gun and have that feature built in. IMHO the corded models
>
> get
>
>>>heavy after several hundred screws and the bigger the battery pack, the
>>>heavier it is. Corded drills are relative light weight and very strong
>>>compared to a 18 or 19.2 volt mode.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
It's primary function in my shop is screwing; not drilling. However,
with the hex bits, you CAN drill with it too. I'm not going to invest
in MORE bits, just so I can say I use it for drilling too!
dave
Leon wrote:
> How do you drill with that impact Makita of yours..
>
> I have had a similar problem with Bosch drills... Starting in 1986 I broke 3
> all in the first day I used them... Oddly a Bosch rep got me to try one and
> it broke when I used it at a WW show... All of them had a problem in the
> gears. I started with a Panasonic and those are superb. Still using 2, 9.6
> DeWalts and a Makita right angle cordless. The battery is about pooped on
> the Makita, it does not hold a charge very long, but it is about 20 years
> old.. ;~) I got the extra DeWalt because it was cheaper to buy in a kit
> than to buy 2 new batteries. Still using the original DeWalt cordless that
> is 7 years old.
>
>
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I bought my last DeWalt drill a few years back. Had to return it the
>>same day I bought it. The chuck wasn't true. Got the Makita, and now
>>I've got 3. love 'em.
>>
>>dave
>>
>>Leon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out
>
> 900
>
>>>inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model..
>
> LOL
>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>do you really need more the 880 inch lbs?? (that's what my impact
>>>>driver has, in a 12V model)
>>>>
>>>>dave
>>>>
>>>>Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Why the 120 volt corded drill? Much more power than any battery
>>>
>>>operated
>>>
>>>
>>>>>drill and much cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or
>
> 12
>
>>>>>>volt?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Longer run times between recharges of the battery packs. Marginaly
>
> more
>
>>>>>power.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are going to build a deck, get a "CORDED" drill and add a dry
>>>
>>>wall
>>>
>>>
>>>>>adapter to limit screw travel. Or for about $100. you can get a corded
>>>
>>>dry
>>>
>>>
>>>>>wall screw gun and have that feature built in. IMHO the corded models
>>>
>>>get
>>>
>>>
>>>>>heavy after several hundred screws and the bigger the battery pack, the
>>>>>heavier it is. Corded drills are relative light weight and very strong
>>>>>compared to a 18 or 19.2 volt mode.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
I don't understand why they were "forbidden?"
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rich Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> > I like 9.6v for assembly work in the shop. I like 14.4v for carpentry.
> Yes,
> > higher voltage (more power) is nice, but the tradeoff is the weight of
the
> > tool.
>
>
> Every tool has its place. At work, a couple of guys bought 18V drills and
> use them to change some name plates in aluminum tooling. I'm talking
12-32
> screws. After two uses, they are forbidden to use them and must use the
3.6
> volt B & D screwdriver that has yet to strip the threads.
> Ed
>
>
Why the 120 volt corded drill? Much more power than any battery operated
drill and much cheaper.
"jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
> What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> volt?
Longer run times between recharges of the battery packs. Marginaly more
power.
>If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
If you are going to build a deck, get a "CORDED" drill and add a dry wall
adapter to limit screw travel. Or for about $100. you can get a corded dry
wall screw gun and have that feature built in. IMHO the corded models get
heavy after several hundred screws and the bigger the battery pack, the
heavier it is. Corded drills are relative light weight and very strong
compared to a 18 or 19.2 volt mode.
No, it is not "marginally more power", it is DRASTICALLY more power. I
have owned 9.6v DeWalt, 16.8v Craftsman, 19.something Craftsman, and our
tool crib has 24v Dewalt. The power goes up markedly with each voltage
increase. And I am talking about driving #14 screws into mahaogany,
maybe a few dozen at a time. Into poplar, pine or soft lam beam I can
slam them in with no pilot holes at all if the motor is strong, which
saves a bunch of time. Buy the big one. Any brand, most are Chinese
anyway.
FWIW ... anyone interested in getting a below par cordless tool battery
"rebuilt" and operating better than when it was new, definitely give
Primecell a try:
http://www.primecell.com/
I just sent them my second DeWally 18v. The first one I sent them came back
with noticeably more power, and a _much_ longer life before re-charging.
It will end up costing the retail price of one battery to upgrade two ...
well worth the $$, IMO.
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Last update: 8/24/03
"Blair" <wrote in message
> Of my three cordless drills, a Dewalt, a Porter Cable and Metabo, the
only
> one that stands up to repetetive work is the Metabo 15.4. It is not the
> size of the battery, it is how the drill is geared. A 450 hp Kenworth can
> tow in excess of 100,000 pounds, could you do that with a 750 hp race car?
> But if the truth be known, I agree with Leon, for a deck I would use a
> corded 120v drill. Why would you lay a beating on a cordless drill when
you
> are that close to a power source.
MARGINAL compared to the jump from 9.6 to 24 volt to 120 volt corded. Much
closer to 9.6 than 120.
"RM MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No, it is not "marginally more power", it is DRASTICALLY more power. I
> have owned 9.6v DeWalt, 16.8v Craftsman, 19.something Craftsman, and our
> tool crib has 24v Dewalt. The power goes up markedly with each voltage
> increase. And I am talking about driving #14 screws into mahaogany,
> maybe a few dozen at a time. Into poplar, pine or soft lam beam I can
> slam them in with no pilot holes at all if the motor is strong, which
> saves a bunch of time. Buy the big one. Any brand, most are Chinese
> anyway.
>
Of my three cordless drills, a Dewalt, a Porter Cable and Metabo, the only
one that stands up to repetetive work is the Metabo 15.4. It is not the
size of the battery, it is how the drill is geared. A 450 hp Kenworth can
tow in excess of 100,000 pounds, could you do that with a 750 hp race car?
But if the truth be known, I agree with Leon, for a deck I would use a
corded 120v drill. Why would you lay a beating on a cordless drill when you
are that close to a power source.
Blair
.....;~)
Where yuh been hiding?
"Steve Knight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:15:27 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out 900
> >inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model..
LOL
>
> don't believe everything dewalt says. they also claim a 15 amp motor is
4hp.
>
> --
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Too many choices!!! I've a Craftsman 14.4 I bought on sale and love it.
Built my 12x16 shop using it - in part. No problem driving in 3"
screws when necessary - plenty of power. Anything longer than that and
I'd get an inexpensive elec drill though. They have more cojones!
jm wrote:
> What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Metroman <[email protected]> wrote:
>... Keeping that in mind I have yet to find anything that beats good
>ole corded drills.
I got my first cordless (a fine Bosch) when I needed to do a bunch of
driving screws in awkward positions when doing some ceilig repairs.
That is, I needed to use it overhead when up a ladder, and lying down
near the eaves in the attic. The combination of no cord and an
excellent clutch made it possible to do work that otherwise would have
taken much more time and effort, if it could have been done.
--
--henry schaffer
[email protected]
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:53:03 GMT, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:15:27 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out 900
>>inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model.. LOL
>
>don't believe everything dewalt says. they also claim a 15 amp motor is 4hp.
They didn't say what planet they rated it on.
Barry
Metroman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:08:12 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> >volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
> >
>
> Basically the higher the voltage the more power and the longer it will
> last on a single charge. Keeping that in mind I have yet to find
> anything that beats good ole corded drills.
Thanks. I don't know why a cordless is better in a shop where the
electricity is right there. Maybe someone else can enlighten me. But
I do see Norm Abram using one in his shop AND HE IS THE MAN.
>Thanks. I don't know why a cordless is better in a shop where the
>electricity is right there.
They are just more portable if you are moving around a large piece driving
screws. You are not tripping over the cord.
I very seldom actually drill with my cordless. It always has a bit driver
adapter in it. I use a more powerful corded drill for drilling the hole and I
run in the screw with the cordless. Sometimes I will even have 3 drills out.
A lot of the various voltages are curtesy "Tim the Tool Man" marketing
-- "More Power". Before too long someone will come out with a 110volt
drill and sing the praises of not having to stop and recharge it.
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:08:12 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:08:12 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>
Basically the higher the voltage the more power and the longer it will
last on a single charge. Keeping that in mind I have yet to find
anything that beats good ole corded drills.
Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out 900
inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model.. LOL
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> do you really need more the 880 inch lbs?? (that's what my impact
> driver has, in a 12V model)
>
> dave
>
> Leon wrote:
>
> > Why the 120 volt corded drill? Much more power than any battery
operated
> > drill and much cheaper.
> >
> >
> > "jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:wdv4b.317243$YN5.217267@sccrnsc01...
> >
> >>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> >>volt?
> >
> >
> > Longer run times between recharges of the battery packs. Marginaly more
> > power.
> >
> >
> >
> >>If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
> >
> >
> > If you are going to build a deck, get a "CORDED" drill and add a dry
wall
> > adapter to limit screw travel. Or for about $100. you can get a corded
dry
> > wall screw gun and have that feature built in. IMHO the corded models
get
> > heavy after several hundred screws and the bigger the battery pack, the
> > heavier it is. Corded drills are relative light weight and very strong
> > compared to a 18 or 19.2 volt mode.
> >
> >
> >
>
The biggest you can afford. And look at the impact driver Makita has
out. Folks have been praising it bigtime!! For a deck only, I would
opt for the Makita. I like Milwaukee myself.
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:08:12 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:15:27 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Whoaaa.... I just noticed that the DeWalt 9.6 impact driver puts out 900
>inch pounds.... You probably paid too much... for that 12 volt model.. LOL
don't believe everything dewalt says. they also claim a 15 amp motor is 4hp.
--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
yup, the Makita impact driver is fab! I've got 3 Makitas, and I reach
for the compact, high torque impact first
dave
Ramsey wrote:
> The biggest you can afford. And look at the impact driver Makita has
> out. Folks have been praising it bigtime!! For a deck only, I would
> opt for the Makita. I like Milwaukee myself.
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:08:12 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
>>volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
>>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
> The biggest you can afford. And look at the impact driver Makita has
> out. Folks have been praising it bigtime!! For a deck only, I would
> opt for the Makita. I like Milwaukee myself.
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:08:12 GMT, "jm" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >What is the adavantage of the 18 or 19.2 volt drill over the 14.4 or 12
> >volt? If I am going to build a deck, which one should I get?
> >
>
For heavy duty work - like driving screws - I like a corded 3/8 or 1/2`
drill and an extenstion cord of at least "12 gage", (I have a fifty foot
'10') pluged into a 20 amp circuit.
Guy accross the street tried doing some heavy work and couldn't
understand why the plug on his '18 gage' melted after 15 min.
Tom
"Rich Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> I like 9.6v for assembly work in the shop. I like 14.4v for carpentry.
Yes,
> higher voltage (more power) is nice, but the tradeoff is the weight of the
> tool.
Every tool has its place. At work, a couple of guys bought 18V drills and
use them to change some name plates in aluminum tooling. I'm talking 12-32
screws. After two uses, they are forbidden to use them and must use the 3.6
volt B & D screwdriver that has yet to strip the threads.
Ed
On 8-Sep-2003, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "jm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:E7a7b.399443$uu5.73222@sccrnsc04...
> >
> > Corded doesn't have a clutch? Why wouldn't they build that in?
>
> I have never seen one with a clutch.
I've seen a couple - Ryobi comes to mind - low end drill, though.
Mike