Sk

"Swingman"

22/10/2006 9:21 AM

A&C Kitchen Dining Set - The fat lady still has to ....

... spray some shellac.

But other than that, it's over:

The "Little Chair That Started It All":

http://65.205.120.222/images/MysteryChair1a.jpg

The end results (sans shellac):

http://65.205.120.222/images/CrftsManCh31.jpg
http://65.205.120.222/images/CrftsManCh30.jpg
http://65.205.120.222/images/ACset.jpg
http://65.205.120.222/images/ACset2.jpg


The full story, if you ain't heard it already:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects10.htm


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This topic has 21 replies

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 12:40 AM

S_W_E_E_T, VERY SWEET

Lew

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

22/10/2006 8:42 PM

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:21:03 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>... spray some shellac.

NNNNNIIIIICCCCCEEEE!!!

Typical bass player... <G>

Rd

"Robatoy"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

22/10/2006 5:33 PM



Very nice, Swingman, very nice indeed.

*turning green*


r

u

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 3:37 PM

Nice job, Swingman.

Did you refinish the floors? If you did, what did you use? I have oak
floors exactly like that, but mine need to be refinished and all the
results I've seen of others doing theirs wound up too bleached looking.

Mike

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 11:07 AM

"Pat Barber" wrote in message
> I think you covered part of this already but
> do a T&M recap for those of us that maight be
> crazy enough to start our very own. I recall
> that you kept pretty tight records on this
> deal.

Hi Pat,

I'll have to get back to you with a better take on the materials, but here
is a _very_ accurate time breakdown, by task, for fabrication of the six
chairs (not including prototyping/design time):

Mill/Layout/Cut Parts on Cut List: 30.25
Setup/route Mortises: 39.00
Initial sand/surface preparation: 19.75
Glueup: 12.75
Final Sand: 8.00
Stain: 5.75
Sealcoat TBD

105 hours/30 minutes thus far ... probably another four to six hours for the
seal coat.

A Cutlist Plus run on the material for the six chars with wooden seats (QSWO
@ $6.10 bf) shows $967.51 ... but I already a good deal of that in inventory
left over from previous projects.

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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 3:07 PM


"Leuf" wrote in message

> What time are we all invited over for dinner?
>
> You're going to need more chairs...

LOL. I'll make the gumbo .... but byol, chairs, and gumbo bowls.

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BM

"Bob Meyer"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

22/10/2006 2:56 PM

You are the Chair-Man

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

22/10/2006 12:15 PM

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message

> You may have to build a bigger dining room table to
> accomadate the classy chair - bench combo!


Nahh ... it's designed for that spot:

http://65.205.120.222/images/ACset3.jpg


Actually, I made the two extra chairs (six instead of the needed four in the
space), so that the table could be used in someone's else's (daughter's?)
dining room after I'm long gone.

One extra chair will go under the clock, where it is no, ready for action.

And the other will go very well with SWMBO's writing desk to replace the
"chair that started it all" ... providing I can convince her to give up the
upholstered seat, poplar, prototype:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/708-9.jpg

As for the bench, she/they/future owners can put it in the hall, for all I
care. ;)

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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 1:13 PM

"Tim Taylor" wrote in message

> Why do I add that all up to 115.5?
> No matter, they look good how ever long it took you!!! Great work.


Thanks ... you, and my spreadsheet, are correct ... 115.5 it is.

My typo.

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

22/10/2006 8:55 PM

Very nice.

And the whole time I pictured them being used in the front dining room.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

24/10/2006 7:10 AM

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Nice job, Swingman.
> >
> > Did you refinish the floors? If you did, what did you use? I have oak
> > floors exactly like that, but mine need to be refinished and all the
> > results I've seen of others doing theirs wound up too bleached looking.
> >
>
> My oak floors look exactly like his, I used McCloskey Gymseal.
> Waterlox Original's original entrance to the market was as a floor
varnish.

The floors in question are only 4+ years old. Built the house back in early
02, SWMBO picked the color, and I left the choice of finish up to the sub
... I was out of town for that week and was never happy with the sanding job
they did.

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LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 2:22 PM


"Tim Taylor" dazzled us with his mathematical ability
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Pat Barber" wrote in message
>>> I think you covered part of this already but
>>> do a T&M recap for those of us that maight be
>>> crazy enough to start our very own. I recall
>>> that you kept pretty tight records on this
>>> deal.
>>
>> Hi Pat,
>>
>> I'll have to get back to you with a better take on the materials, but
>> here
>> is a _very_ accurate time breakdown, by task, for fabrication of the six
>> chairs (not including prototyping/design time):
>>
>> Mill/Layout/Cut Parts on Cut List: 30.25
>> Setup/route Mortises: 39.00
>> Initial sand/surface preparation: 19.75
>> Glueup: 12.75
>> Final Sand: 8.00
>> Stain: 5.75
>> Sealcoat TBD
>>
>> 105 hours/30 minutes thus far ... probably another four to six hours for
>> the
>> seal coat.
>>
>> A Cutlist Plus run on the material for the six chars with wooden seats
>> (QSWO
>> @ $6.10 bf) shows $967.51 ... but I already a good deal of that in
>> inventory
>> left over from previous projects.
>>
>> --
>> www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/06
>
> Why do I add that all up to 115.5?
> No matter, they look good how ever long it took you!!! Great work.
>
Damn!!

I was so impressed with the swingman's chair odyssey that I never thought to
check his math.

I came up with 115.50 as well.

Maybe TBD means subtract ten hours??




PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 8:30 PM

That's a lot of time and materials but the effort
certainly looks nice. Chairs have always been a
"scary item" for me to tackle.

Your design appears to take some of the scary out,
but that is a LOT of M&T that must be perfect.

Did't you buy one of those snazzy M&T machines ???

Swingman wrote:

> "Pat Barber" wrote in message
>
>>I think you covered part of this already but
>>do a T&M recap for those of us that maight be
>>crazy enough to start our very own. I recall
>>that you kept pretty tight records on this
>>deal.
>
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> I'll have to get back to you with a better take on the materials, but here
> is a _very_ accurate time breakdown, by task, for fabrication of the six
> chairs (not including prototyping/design time):
>
> Mill/Layout/Cut Parts on Cut List: 30.25
> Setup/route Mortises: 39.00
> Initial sand/surface preparation: 19.75
> Glueup: 12.75
> Final Sand: 8.00
> Stain: 5.75
> Sealcoat TBD
>
> 105 hours/30 minutes thus far ... probably another four to six hours for the
> seal coat.
>
> A Cutlist Plus run on the material for the six chars with wooden seats (QSWO
> @ $6.10 bf) shows $967.51 ... but I already a good deal of that in inventory
> left over from previous projects.
>

FB

Frank Boettcher

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 8:20 AM

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:21:03 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>

Beautiful work!

Frank

MM

Mike M

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

24/10/2006 9:58 PM


Thanks for all of your posts. You post good information, answer
intelligent questions, and post a lot of information for those of us
that aren't up to your level yet.

Mike M

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:07:35 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Pat Barber" wrote in message
>> I think you covered part of this already but
>> do a T&M recap for those of us that maight be
>> crazy enough to start our very own. I recall
>> that you kept pretty tight records on this
>> deal.
>
>Hi Pat,
>
>I'll have to get back to you with a better take on the materials, but here
>is a _very_ accurate time breakdown, by task, for fabrication of the six
>chairs (not including prototyping/design time):
>
>Mill/Layout/Cut Parts on Cut List: 30.25
>Setup/route Mortises: 39.00
>Initial sand/surface preparation: 19.75
>Glueup: 12.75
>Final Sand: 8.00
>Stain: 5.75
>Sealcoat TBD
>
>105 hours/30 minutes thus far ... probably another four to six hours for the
>seal coat.
>
>A Cutlist Plus run on the material for the six chars with wooden seats (QSWO
>@ $6.10 bf) shows $967.51 ... but I already a good deal of that in inventory
>left over from previous projects.

TT

"Tim Taylor"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 1:52 PM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Pat Barber" wrote in message
>> I think you covered part of this already but
>> do a T&M recap for those of us that maight be
>> crazy enough to start our very own. I recall
>> that you kept pretty tight records on this
>> deal.
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> I'll have to get back to you with a better take on the materials, but here
> is a _very_ accurate time breakdown, by task, for fabrication of the six
> chairs (not including prototyping/design time):
>
> Mill/Layout/Cut Parts on Cut List: 30.25
> Setup/route Mortises: 39.00
> Initial sand/surface preparation: 19.75
> Glueup: 12.75
> Final Sand: 8.00
> Stain: 5.75
> Sealcoat TBD
>
> 105 hours/30 minutes thus far ... probably another four to six hours for
> the
> seal coat.
>
> A Cutlist Plus run on the material for the six chars with wooden seats
> (QSWO
> @ $6.10 bf) shows $967.51 ... but I already a good deal of that in
> inventory
> left over from previous projects.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/06

Why do I add that all up to 115.5?
No matter, they look good how ever long it took you!!! Great work.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 2:20 PM

Really Purty....

Swingman wrote:

> ... spray some shellac.
>
> But other than that, it's over:
>
> The "Little Chair That Started It All":

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

24/10/2006 11:09 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> Nice job, Swingman.
>
> Did you refinish the floors? If you did, what did you use? I have oak
> floors exactly like that, but mine need to be refinished and all the
> results I've seen of others doing theirs wound up too bleached looking.
>

My oak floors look exactly like his, I used McCloskey Gymseal.
Waterlox Original's original entrance to the market was as a floor varnish.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 2:22 PM

I think you covered part of this already but
do a T&M recap for those of us that maight be
crazy enough to start our very own. I recall
that you kept pretty tight records on this
deal.

Swingman wrote:

> ... spray some shellac.
>
> But other than that, it's over:
>
> The "Little Chair That Started It All":
>
> http://65.205.120.222/images/MysteryChair1a.jpg
>
> The end results (sans shellac):
>
> http://65.205.120.222/images/CrftsManCh31.jpg
> http://65.205.120.222/images/CrftsManCh30.jpg
> http://65.205.120.222/images/ACset.jpg
> http://65.205.120.222/images/ACset2.jpg
>
>
> The full story, if you ain't heard it already:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects10.htm
>
>

Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

23/10/2006 2:03 PM

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:21:03 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>... spray some shellac.
>
>But other than that, it's over:

What time are we all invited over for dinner?

You're going to need more chairs...


-Leuf

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Swingman" on 22/10/2006 9:21 AM

22/10/2006 11:45 AM


"Swingman" wrote in message

> ... spray some shellac.
>
> But other than that, it's over:
>
> The "Little Chair That Started It All":
>

Looks very good. You may have to build a bigger dining room table to
accomadate the classy chair - bench combo!



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