I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of moving
so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I build
a shed.
My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in an
unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light. When
I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much brighter
the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it, just
put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working with
the same lighting that I've had all along.
If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
"Lazarus Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:20:27 GMT, "PM6564"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >All my walls are insulated but I still don't have a ceiling up. Once I
do,
> >I'm going to re-enact the old Cheers episode where Norm painted Sam's
office
> >in 3 seconds flat...
> >
>
> How do you do that? Set off a small explosive charge in the middle of
> a bunch of paint filled ballons? Use a firehose to spray paint?
>
Reminds me of an episode of Mr. Bean. He did exactly that... used an
explosive charge to paint an entire room at once.
Gee, Glen, why don't you tell me how you REALLY feel. You, too have no
concept of teasing. My sarcastic post flew right over your head. Could
that be because you had YOUR head level with YOUR posterior?? Try to be
a little more intelligent next time and THINK before replying.
dave
Glen Kraig wrote:
> Horse's ass!
>
> Glen
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
>>light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
>>for sharing.
>>
>>dave
>>
>>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
>>>done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of
>
> moving
>
>>>so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I
>
> build
>
>>>a shed.
>>>
>>>My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in
>
> an
>
>>>unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
>>>sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light.
>
> When
>
>>>I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much
>
> brighter
>
>>>the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it,
>
> just
>
>>>put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working
>
> with
>
>>>the same lighting that I've had all along.
>>>
>>>If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
>>>gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
>>>Ed
>>>[email protected]
>>>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
"Henry St.Pierre" <[email protected]> wrote ...
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > I thought about taping, but I figured it is a garage, not my living room so
> > drywall itself is extravagant compared to what was there. Some of the seams
> > will be covered with pegboard, shelves, etc.
> >
> If you're not going to tape, no problem.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that. Not taping is his right,
of course, but mudding and taping isn't just cosmetic. It serves
to reinforce the edges of the sheet, preventing the sheets from
cracking when put under tension. Anyone who has hung
drywall has had the drywall crack off a bit while being fastened to
the stud at the edge: mud and tape makes that much less likely.
And if you don't care about cosmetics, a quick single application
of mud-and-tape and some sanding isn't all that difficult.
--
Dennis M. O'Connor [email protected]
In article <[email protected]>, Bay Area
Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please recognize a tongue
> in cheek comment for what it is. I'm just being silly. sheesh!
Aw, MAN...
You're gonna have to start telegraphing those TICs... Smileys may be
annoying as hell in most circumstances, but they have their uses.
;-)
djb
--
There are no socks in my email address.
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
In article <3%[email protected]>, Bay
Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> I won't hold my breath waiting.
Wise of you. <g>
Totallly OT, I get to the Bay Area about once a year from western
Canada. Next time looks like it'll be May 2004. I'll ping ya when I
know I'll be incoming. Might be fun to bend a few.
djb
--
There are no socks in my email address.
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
In article <[email protected]>, Henry St.Pierre
<[email protected]> wrote:
> did you get to step three of a twelve step
> program
I got addicted to 12 step programs... What now?
:-P
djb
--
There are no socks in my email address.
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
Thanks, Dave; I use them liberally. But I'm afraid I use them so much
they lose their effectiveness, so sometimes I just leave them off. I
sometimes post the forgotten smiley when what I read of my own post
appears TOO likely to be misconstrued. Other times, I don't expect
arrows to be slung at me over what I consider an obvious silliness.
I've been guilty of mistaking humor for rudeness on occasion, so I can
see where they are coming from. It would be the decent thing for them
to acknowledge these misunderstandings instead of character
assassination, but I won't hold my breath waiting.
dave
Dave Balderstone wrote:
snip
> You're gonna have to start telegraphing those TICs... Smileys may be
> annoying as hell in most circumstances, but they have their uses.
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of moving
> so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I build
> a shed.
>
> My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in an
> unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light. When
> I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much brighter
> the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it, just
> put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working with
> the same lighting that I've had all along.
>
> If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
>
Ed, shoulda taped it first. Need help, let me know and if you buy the
beer, supply the Que .... Where in Cn are you?
Hank
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Bay Area Dave wrote:
> Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
> light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
> for sharing.
>
> dave
>
Thanks for sharing? Dave did you get to step three of a twelve step
program? Thanks for keeping the wreck from being boring - like "what saw
should I buy", I bought a Unisaw rip fence with Incra miter
capabilities, should I gloat?
Keepem Flamin',
Hank
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Henry St.Pierre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>Ed, shoulda taped it first. Need help, let me know and if you buy the
>>beer, supply the Que .... Where in Cn are you?
>>Hank
>>
>
>
> I'm in Putnam, CT
> I thought about taping, but I figured it is a garage, not my living room so
> drywall itself is extravagant compared to what was there. Some of the seams
> will be covered with pegboard, shelves, etc.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
>
If you're not going to tape, no problem. If you decide to tape after
painting it just makes sanding a PITA. Do you have a detached garage?
Most codes require an in the dwelling garage to be taped. Sorry about
Cn. (meant Ct., honest.).
Hank
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Sun, Oct 12, 2003, 8:11pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski) says:
<snip> do yourself a favor and buy a gallon or two of white or very
light colored paint.
You'll probably be happier with gloss white, and paint the floor
too.
And, don't forget to get some bright yellow, and paint your tools
with it. That'll make you a pleased person in a tent.
JOAT
I find the best approach is to take life as it comes.
- Death
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 12 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
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T. wrote:
> <snip> do yourself a favor and buy a gallon or two of white or very
> light colored paint.
>
> You'll probably be happier with gloss white, and paint the floor
> too.
Brighter is better. I went from white to pastel blue in the living room,
and it takes at least four times more lighting to make the room bright now.
Dad sells some WHITE paint. It makes everything else look dirty by
comparison, even the "super bright" white stuff. I really should paint my
shop with that stuff one of these days.
I can't really paint the walls, but do you "paint your shop, you'll love it"
people think it would be worth just painting the "ceiling"?
My "ceiling" is actually a couple sheets of 3/4" plywood resting on 2x4s
nailed across the ceiling supports. It's a shed with a barn-style roof.
The "ceiling" is about 6' or so, and the lights are only inches above my
head. Mine is not a shop for a tall person.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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Silvan asks:
>I can't really paint the walls, but do you "paint your shop, you'll love it"
>people think it would be worth just painting the "ceiling"?
Unequivocal yes. So far, that's all I've had time to do, and the difference is
amazing. I'd guess painting the ceiling is 65% of the total shop brightening,
particularly for those of us who have cabinets or tools or both hanging on the
walls.
Charlie Self
"The income tax has made liars out of more Americans than golf."
Will Rogers
In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>T. wrote:
>
>> <snip> do yourself a favor and buy a gallon or two of white or very
>> light colored paint.
>>
>> You'll probably be happier with gloss white, and paint the floor
>> too.
>
>Brighter is better. I went from white to pastel blue in the living room,
>and it takes at least four times more lighting to make the room bright now.
>
>Dad sells some WHITE paint. It makes everything else look dirty by
>comparison, even the "super bright" white stuff. I really should paint my
>shop with that stuff one of these days.
>
Note: To get _really_ white-looking paint have the people doing the
tinting add just a 'touch' of *BLACK* tint to the white mix. (where the
minimum tint increment for a _quart_ is '1 unit', '2 units' of black in a
_gallon_ is about right.)
This _sounds_ "silly", I know, but is is amazingly effective.
The logic behind it, as explained by a painting professional: "add a
little bit of black, to make it look blue, so it won't yellow."
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:K9zib.844
> I can't say I will bother to do the smiley face thing in the
> future every time I'm joking around, so please assume I'm not being mean
> spirited right off the bat.
>
> dave
OK, then we can skip the hug.
Ed
"Henry St.Pierre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> Ed, shoulda taped it first. Need help, let me know and if you buy the
> beer, supply the Que .... Where in Cn are you?
> Hank
>
I'm in Putnam, CT
I thought about taping, but I figured it is a garage, not my living room so
drywall itself is extravagant compared to what was there. Some of the seams
will be covered with pegboard, shelves, etc.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
4 1/2 years? Is that all you waited? I've lived in the same house since
1980. I looked and looked and looked until I found one that had a 3 car
sized garage, so I could build a decent home shop. Well, I'm finally
getting around to it. Its the result of being a road warrior consultant,
don't you know? I can hardly wait to retire.
I read the posts here about white walls and insulating and I'm definitely
going to make that a high priority.
Thanks for the post.
Bob
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <Hziib.10864$%[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> > done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of
moving
> > so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I
build
> > a shed.
> >
>
> Do yourself a favor and don't wait; do it now.
>
> > My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in
an
> > unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> > sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light.
When
> > I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much
brighter
> > the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it,
just
> > put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working
with
> > the same lighting that I've had all along.
> >
>
> I did the insulation wallboard thing this summer and finished about a
> month ago. You are going to also find that the bright lighting actually
> really does affect your mood as well as just make things brighter. I
> have always enjoyed the shop, one of the reasons I didn't insulate this
> shop sooner was that I wanted to be doing things shortly after we moved
> in 4 1/2 years ago. However, now that the shop is so much brighter, I
> find myself actually happier when in the shop.
>
>
> > If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> > gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> > Ed
>
> What he said.
>
>
> > [email protected]
> > http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
> >
> >
> >
> >
Well...I guess that's ok...even my wife can't tell when I'm kidding
sometimes! It spoils the fun a bit when I have to explain that I was
kidding, but it IS fun to act all serious when I first make the comment.
She does it to me ALL the time, and I fall for it too, so I DO
UNDERSTAND the concept of misunderstanding someone's dry humor. I've
jumped the gun on several occasions here on the Wreck, prompting my
humble apologies. None is needed on this on, but it's 'preciated just
the same. I can't say I will bother to do the smiley face thing in the
future every time I'm joking around, so please assume I'm not being mean
spirited right off the bat.
dave
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:3%[email protected]...
>
>>Thanks, Dave; I use them liberally. But I'm afraid I use them so much
>>they lose their effectiveness, so sometimes I just leave them off. I
>>sometimes post the forgotten smiley when what I read of my own post
>>appears TOO likely to be misconstrued. Other times, I don't expect
>>arrows to be slung at me over what I consider an obvious silliness.
>
>
>
> Maybe I did jump the gun a litle. Dry humor is a risk at times.
>
> Do I have to give you a hug to make up?
> Ed
>
>
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Hziib.10864$%[email protected]...
> I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of moving
> so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I
build
> a shed.
>
> My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in
an
> unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light.
When
> I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much
brighter
> the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it,
just
> put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working with
> the same lighting that I've had all along.
>
> If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
All my walls are insulated but I still don't have a ceiling up. Once I do,
I'm going to re-enact the old Cheers episode where Norm painted Sam's office
in 3 seconds flat...
PM6564 responds:
>All my walls are insulated but I still don't have a ceiling up. Once I do,
>I'm going to re-enact the old Cheers episode where Norm painted Sam's office
>in 3 seconds flat...
Missed that episode, but...make sure you use painter's film for the tool cover,
cut-off areas you don't want painted, etc. Stuff is 14' wide, very light,
cheap, comes in boxes with, I think, 250' rolled up (PITA to open wide because
it's so light, but otherwise great).
You really will not believe the difference in lighting. I haven't done my shop
walls yet, but upon my return to VA, that's near the top of the list. The
ceiling paint made so much difference it's like adding 6 or so banks of
fluorescent light.
I used a semi-gloss white, which the OSB ceiling turned into more of a satin,
even after 3 coats.
Charlie Self
"The income tax has made liars out of more Americans than golf."
Will Rogers
You come across as a sarcastic little prick to a wide
variety of people.
Take a look in the mirror if you want to see the problem.
Rico
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> Gee, Glen, why don't you tell me how you REALLY feel. You, too have no
> concept of teasing. My sarcastic post flew right over your head. Could
> that be because you had YOUR head level with YOUR posterior?? Try to be
> a little more intelligent next time and THINK before replying.
>
> dave
>
> Glen Kraig wrote:
>
> > Horse's ass!
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
> >>light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
> >>for sharing.
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> >>>done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of
> >
> > moving
> >
> >>>so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I
> >
> > build
> >
> >>>a shed.
> >>>
> >>>My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in
> >
> > an
> >
> >>>unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> >>>sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light.
> >
> > When
> >
> >>>I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much
> >
> > brighter
> >
> >>>the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it,
> >
> > just
> >
> >>>put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working
> >
> > with
> >
> >>>the same lighting that I've had all along.
> >>>
> >>>If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> >>>gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> >>>Ed
> >>>[email protected]
> >>>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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realize you are special :)
Rico
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> Rico, I can always count on you for a kind word. Thanks for caring. If
> you keep showering me with praise, what will the rest of the boys think?
> <blush, blush>
>
> dave
>
> Rico wrote:
>
> > You come across as a sarcastic little prick to a wide
> > variety of people.
> >
> > Take a look in the mirror if you want to see the problem.
> >
> > Rico
> >
> >
> > Bay Area Dave wrote:
> >
> >>Gee, Glen, why don't you tell me how you REALLY feel. You, too have no
> >>concept of teasing. My sarcastic post flew right over your head. Could
> >>that be because you had YOUR head level with YOUR posterior?? Try to be
> >>a little more intelligent next time and THINK before replying.
> >>
> >>dave
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I'll be here! Give a holler.
dave
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <3%[email protected]>, Bay
> Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I won't hold my breath waiting.
>
>
> Wise of you. <g>
>
> Totallly OT, I get to the Bay Area about once a year from western
> Canada. Next time looks like it'll be May 2004. I'll ping ya when I
> know I'll be incoming. Might be fun to bend a few.
>
> djb
>
Rico, I can always count on you for a kind word. Thanks for caring. If
you keep showering me with praise, what will the rest of the boys think?
<blush, blush>
dave
Rico wrote:
> You come across as a sarcastic little prick to a wide
> variety of people.
>
> Take a look in the mirror if you want to see the problem.
>
> Rico
>
>
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>>Gee, Glen, why don't you tell me how you REALLY feel. You, too have no
>>concept of teasing. My sarcastic post flew right over your head. Could
>>that be because you had YOUR head level with YOUR posterior?? Try to be
>>a little more intelligent next time and THINK before replying.
>>
>>dave
>>
>>Glen Kraig wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Horse's ass!
>>>
>>>Glen
>>>
>>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
>>>>light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
>>>>for sharing.
>>>>
>>>>dave
>>>>
>>>>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
>>>>>done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of
>>>
>>>moving
>>>
>>>
>>>>>so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I
>>>
>>>build
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a shed.
>>>>>
>>>>>My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in
>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>
>>>>>unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
>>>>>sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light.
>>>
>>>When
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much
>>>
>>>brighter
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it,
>>>
>>>just
>>>
>>>
>>>>>put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the same lighting that I've had all along.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
>>>>>gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
>>>>>Ed
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3%[email protected]...
> Thanks, Dave; I use them liberally. But I'm afraid I use them so much
> they lose their effectiveness, so sometimes I just leave them off. I
> sometimes post the forgotten smiley when what I read of my own post
> appears TOO likely to be misconstrued. Other times, I don't expect
> arrows to be slung at me over what I consider an obvious silliness.
Maybe I did jump the gun a litle. Dry humor is a risk at times.
Do I have to give you a hug to make up?
Ed
Mon, Oct 13, 2003, 12:45pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski)
spoiled my day with:
<snip> Do I have to give you a hug to make up?
Yuck. Did you have to say that? Now that's probably going to be
stuck in my mind all day.
JOAT
I find the best approach is to take life as it comes.
- Death
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 12 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
for sharing.
dave
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of moving
> so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I build
> a shed.
>
> My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in an
> unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light. When
> I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much brighter
> the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it, just
> put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working with
> the same lighting that I've had all along.
>
> If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
>
No they STILL are!! Did your sense of humor slip away along with
Keeter's? Has everyone taken a grouchy pill? Please recognize a tongue
in cheek comment for what it is. I'm just being silly. sheesh!
dave
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
>>light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
>>for sharing.
>>
>>dave
>
>
> I used to think the other guys were wrong. I guess I was.
>
>
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
> light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
> for sharing.
>
> dave
I used to think the other guys were wrong. I guess I was.
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
> light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year!
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> dave
>
troll.
In article <Hziib.10864$%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of moving
> so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I build
> a shed.
>
Do yourself a favor and don't wait; do it now.
> My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in an
> unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light. When
> I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much brighter
> the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it, just
> put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working with
> the same lighting that I've had all along.
>
I did the insulation wallboard thing this summer and finished about a
month ago. You are going to also find that the bright lighting actually
really does affect your mood as well as just make things brighter. I
have always enjoyed the shop, one of the reasons I didn't insulate this
shop sooner was that I wanted to be doing things shortly after we moved
in 4 1/2 years ago. However, now that the shop is so much brighter, I
find myself actually happier when in the shop.
> If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> Ed
What he said.
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
>
>
In article <131020030105214070%[email protected]>,
Dave Balderstone <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>In article <[email protected]>, Henry St.Pierre
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> did you get to step three of a twelve step
>> program
>
>I got addicted to 12 step programs... What now?
Time to get rid of the steps, and put in a ramp.
It's ADA-mandated, anyway. To deal with your handicap.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
> "Henry St.Pierre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Ed, shoulda taped it first. Need help, let me know and if you buy the
> > beer, supply the Que .... Where in Cn are you?
> > Hank
>
> I thought about taping, but I figured it is a garage, not my living room so
> drywall itself is extravagant compared to what was there. Some of the seams
> will be covered with pegboard, shelves, etc.
I gotta agree with Hank. As I've been sheetrocking sections of my
garage, I just do a quick tape job. Got the adhesive fiberglass mesh
drywall tape, and give it a "quick" cover with some mud. Doesn't even
have to cover it 100%. Just enough to seal it up. then hit it with
your single coat of primer.
Something about taping the seems (even a crappy tape job), makes it
feel finished.
-David
In article <[email protected]>,
Lazarus Long <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:20:27 GMT, "PM6564"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>All my walls are insulated but I still don't have a ceiling up. Once I do,
>>I'm going to re-enact the old Cheers episode where Norm painted Sam's office
>>in 3 seconds flat...
>>
>
>How do you do that? Set off a small explosive charge in the middle of
>a bunch of paint filled ballons? Use a firehose to spray paint?
>
I think it was the day he couldn't find the drill, for the paint-stirrer.
and chucked it in the 3-1/2 hp router, instead. "Soft-start" took care
of the varying distances.
"Henry St.Pierre" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> If you're not going to tape, no problem. If you decide to tape after
> painting it just makes sanding a PITA. Do you have a detached garage?
> Most codes require an in the dwelling garage to be taped. Sorry about
> Cn. (meant Ct., honest.).
> Hank
Detached. That makes it harder to heat, thus the insulation. I don't think
there are code issues, but did use EPS foam insulation that in a home
requires to covered with sheetrock, but mostly because it just looks better
this way.
I've not done anything for a ceiling yet. One half has a couple of sheets
of OSB over the 2 x 6's where we store some stuff. The other half has
nothing. It would help to cover that also, but if I make a true insulated
ceiling, then I get into ventilation of the "attic" space.
I bought some white plastic sheeting with fire retardant to use as a vapor
barrier. I've thought of just stapling that on the joists as a heat holding
barrier but I don't know if it will make it worse in the summer.
Ed
Horse's ass!
Glen
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
> light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year! Thanks
> for sharing.
>
> dave
>
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > I finally started to insulate my garage. As of today, the front half is
> > done; insulated, vapor barrier, sheetrock. Due to the logistics of
moving
> > so much "stuff" around, the back half may wait until next year when I
build
> > a shed.
> >
> > My point here is the color of the walls. I'm sure others are working in
an
> > unfinished garage or shed. The walls are 2x's with the inside of the
> > sheathing or siding facing you. It is dark and reflects little light.
When
> > I put the white foam insulation in place, I was amazed at how much
brighter
> > the shop was. So, I put up sheetrock, but did not tape or plaster it,
just
> > put on a coat of white primer. I just makes it much better working
with
> > the same lighting that I've had all along.
> >
> > If you are working in an unfinished area, do yourself a favor and buy a
> > gallon or two of white or very light colored paint.
> > Ed
> > [email protected]
> > http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
> >
> >
> >
>
bite me...or plonk me, Crankston
dave
Lamont Cranston wrote:
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!! White reflects
>>light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this year!
>>Thanks for sharing.
>>
>>dave
>>
>
>
>
> troll.
>
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 02:20:27 GMT, "PM6564"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>All my walls are insulated but I still don't have a ceiling up. Once I do,
>I'm going to re-enact the old Cheers episode where Norm painted Sam's office
>in 3 seconds flat...
>
How do you do that? Set off a small explosive charge in the middle of
a bunch of paint filled ballons? Use a firehose to spray paint?
Lazarus Long asks:
>How do you do that? Set off a small explosive charge in the middle of
>a bunch of paint filled ballons? Use a firehose to spray paint?
>
More like the fire hose. Rent a pro capacity airless sprayer. 1200 sf of
ceiling, 3 coats finished in 8-9 hours, about 2-1/2 of which was actual
painting time.
Charlie Self
"The income tax has made liars out of more Americans than golf."
Will Rogers
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:05:21 GMT, Dave Balderstone
<[email protected]> pixelated:
>In article <[email protected]>, Henry St.Pierre
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> did you get to step three of a twelve step
>> program
>
>I got addicted to 12 step programs... What now?
>
>:-P
A) Send all your money to me. (Got my address?)
B) I'll pray for you in my own special way.
C) Pray for Salvation Without Religion.
No, no, no. Wipe up that drool. I said "salvation", with
only one "i".
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